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the pinefox, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have several train recordings (as far as I'm aware, nothing else, which is a shame). And I do plan to do stuff with them (cf Songs About Trains). I don't know why I grew to adore them, really, I was never particularly interested in trainspotting or steam as a kid or anything...

Scott Walker's "Tilt" sounds like it was recorded in a train station.

emil.y, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just saw something appropriate on a mailing list just the other day spurred by this CNN piece about the music of Jupiter, someone suggested something a bit closer to home. This latter link takes you to a site dedicated to the "music of the magnetosphere", much of it recorded in Northern Canada. It's pretty eerie, partly creepy, and most of the MP3 files sound pretty darned cool. Maybe this is what you meant by the stuff recorded using a kite?

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I coulda sworn I had read something about the North American Frogs recording being some kind of gaffe, but now I can't find the reference. I withdraw any and all aspersions.

That said, I had heard of shortwave "numbers stations" for years before the Conet Project came along. Which, granted, doesn't mean that the ones found on the discs are real.

lee g, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The best field recording I own is a comp. called 'Southern Prison Blues', recorded at Angola State Penitentiary in Louisiana... It was originally on Arhoolie and I'm not sure if it's ever been reissued. Recorded in their cells, these guys just bust out the most amazing, crude and soulful country blues I've ever heard. You can hear coughs coming from the cell next door.

Andy, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Would "Shut Up Little Man" count as a field recording?

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I record loads of them - except my mic is broken so I need to get a new one. I've often fantasised about ritualistic things like the London boroughs field recording project MJ has carried, but I'm too lazy to see them through. A friend and I wanted to bury old demo tapes in various locations but we never got round to it.

David Inglesfield, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

One time Brian, myself and mutual friend Chris Bradbury wandered around the mega huge South Coast Plaza mall and recorded happenings. Among other bits -- being told by mall staff that McDonald's had the hot pretzel franchise and hearing Chris proclaim his love for a Wherehouse staff member.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mike, since we're in the broad area, how was the CD you snagged last night? Music generated from meteorological kite data, wasn't it?

Listening to it right now - if I wanted to give you a glib answer (and somehow I do, though you deserve more than that) I'd say Carsten Nicolai remixing Eno's On Land (though how much the presence of the latter is suggested to me by knowledge of the methods used [I imagine vast heavy grey skies over Scottish islands], or the thickness and slowness of the sound, I dunno).

It's Kaffe Matthews, and what she's done is to take acoustic phenomena (the kite strings' vibration, ground-level recordings, sounds from the computer room at the field station) and subject them to looping, panning and filtering determined by the meteorological data (temp = start point, wind = length, kite position = pan, etc).

Oh hang on, there's some bloody fragmentary poetry on it now. That's torn it. Why can't people shut the fuck up?

Michael Jones, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The London Musicians' Collective just released a fantastic CD called _Your Favorite London Sounds_--they polled a few hundred people about their favorite ambient sounds of the city, then recorded the most popular and most interesting ones...

Third John's recommendation of the Chris Watson albums. Wonderful stuff.

And yes, "Shut Up, Little Man" does count, I think. One of those things that fluctuates between "very, very funny" and "not at all funny," depending on my mood when I listen to it. To roughly quote the guy who recorded it, "you have to wonder what kind of right to privacy people can expect when they're yelling at the top of their lungs."

Douglas, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah. I saw Field Recordings before.. they played with Kind Of Like Spitting and Hot Water Mu.... oh, wait.

Never mind.

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They're much better live..

N., Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

justin bennett's "mosques of tangier" kind of bends the rules, in that it is music of a sort but also takes in the blending of multiple muezzins, the doppler effect, and the natural reverb of an open city. very nice.

i have a smithsonian folkways LP, sound of insects, that sounds like it might be part manufactured. it's real nice either way, and the narrations are amusing; i'm still waiting for some half-assed scratch DJ to offer me $50 for it.

your null fame, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
Hi all,

Stumbled upon this thread while searching for background info on Justin Bennett's great "Mosques of Tanger" CD, which I picked up several years back while on vacation. Thought I'd kick in a few cents.

I was one of the original contributors to the Conet Project, and since then I've been assembling and researching several further volumes of vintage shortwave recordings. As such, many of my favorite field recordings have to do with broadcast sounds (both deliberate and unintentional).

Michael Jones commented on the modern tendency to remix or "musicalise" found sound recordings, and there are a few notable exceptions to this sorry rule. The problem I find is mostly a matter of packaging, which can sometimes make it difficult to track down this sort of thing; a lot of what we might consider "field recordings" gets released as "experimental music" or filed in the avant-garde/"noise" genre. Many labels seem to do this as a matter of course, as if the recordings in question need this sort of cod-philosophical, post-modern grounding to justify their existence.

Much of the catalogue on Ash International (and, to a lesser extent, Touch Recordings) comes to mind. They've done some interesting work that qualifies as "field recordings": location recordings of VLF and ELF radio phenomena, an emergency transmission from the operator of a runaway train, the overwhelming roar of the Santa Pod drag-racing track, and the aforementioned "Ghost Orchid" project purportedly containing distorted speech recordings of the dead via radio. (A second volume of the "Ghost Orchid" series was released containing only the recordings of so-called EVP specialist Friedrich Jurgensen.)

Touch Recordings have put out some great samplers which intermingle field recordings (including those of Chris Watson and Disinformation) with more "musical" items, but their field recordings are very intriguing and evocative (a recording of the Swedish talking clock, a hushed recording of a domed library in England) in their own right.

And, although I believe it was mentioned above, Steve McGreevy's untreated recordings of auroral phenomena (also issued on Irdial-Discs, home of the Conet Project) are quite haunting as well. Worth investingating.

There are other oddities that I've managed to turn up, but they aren't specifically "field recordings" so much as oddball demonstration records or the usual Salvation Army quarter-bin fodder, so I won't mention them here.

Wonderful stuff, though.

Myke Weiskopf, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just got that Chris Watson's cd, "Outside the Circle of Fire". I am really impressed by it. Especially how non-messed-with it is. There's no added keyboards or poetry (which I feel is blasphemy in field recordings). I also have a boxset called Echoes of Nature released from LaserLight digital which I don't like to much because of hoe fake it sounds. It feels like they recorded each individual animal and multitracked them together, and in general the recordings are not too interesting, unlike Chris Watson's. I am going to try and get his other "Stepping Into the Dark"

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, Mike? "aside from attempting to keep any evidence of my own presence (and that of the recording equipment) to a minimum"

Do you have any advice for doing this?
I've filled a few minidiscs of field recordings but too much of is ruined by the sound of wind blowing against the mics or my jacket rustling, etc. (I could probably fix these with a little more practice, but what did you learn from doing your recordings?)

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've really been getting into listening to field recordings lately. More cities and social situations rather than natural sounds.

Such as:

Tony Schwartz
Invisible Cities (The Janek Schafer track here is particularly great--a recording of the postal system!)
the Quiet American. (There are tips for recording under links/resources.)

If anyone knows about other good sites, do tell.

Matt B., Tuesday, 25 February 2003 02:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
"Get Your Ass in the Water and Swim Like Me! Narrative Poetry From Black Oral Tradition."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 16 March 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds of the wind farm, searsburg, vermont

what i'd really like, is some field recordings of lighthouses, but, they dont really make sounds as such?

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 16 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

not really "field recordings" so much as experimental bird music, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Kz8Nxb-Bg

Bangkok Serious starring Yahoo Dangerous (Pillbox), Monday, 15 February 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Someone mentioned the Marc Namblard recording of ice melting on a lake. It's pretty astounding. Has he done much else?

village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 17 May 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

every time i listen to this falling asleep, i wake up at 4am, needing to pee. still recommended.

, Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

So has anyone been to hear Chris Watson's Whispering In The Leaves at Kew Gardens in South West London? I went there this afternoon and ended up staying for the rest of the day just so I could hear the 15 minute field recording three more times.

http://www.chriswatson.net/pr.pdf

http://www.whisperingintheleaves.org/

Watson, who was a member of the original 1970s incarnation of Cabaret Voltaire, has made a name for himself as a sound recordist of distinction. I didn't really know much of his stuff until I heard a track on Boomkat's 14 Songs For The City At Night MP3 bundle last year and then a fantastic BBC Radio Documentary on the use of a hydrophone. Both of these things seemed to immediately and viscerally disprove the myth that field recordings were the work of joyless trainspotters or, worse, cranks. He'd made tapes of birds or a microphone being lowered into a glacier sound as portentous or mind-warping as the 'recordings' of the bow shock of Jupiter.

He's the cover star of this month's [amazing looking] WIRE magazine where he talks about his history making field recordings and the Kew Gardens project.

Normally I don't take much persuading to head to these Victorian hot houses and their grounds near Heathrow (the Palm House is the suitably exotic location for The Cure's Caterpillar promo) but this was something else.

The recording played every sixty minutes on the hour in the morning is the transition from dark to light in the rain forests of Central and South America and the one that I heard captured the sounds heard while the sun sets.

The remarkable thing about the piece itself is that you'd be hard pressed to hear the same thing twice, no matter how many times you went because of the number of axes it runs along. North/South. East/West. Up/Down. And of course the progress of time.

Eighty speakers are placed around the massive wood and glass palm house that allow you to 'move around inside' the recording, around the floor among the palms and up and down the wrought iron spiral staircases. There is a constant shimmer of insect noise no matter where you are but you move in and out of monkey and toad calls. Thunder sounds like it's seeping in from above along with the 'real' sound of planes taxi-ing in to Heathrow overhead.

The funny thing is most adults in there don't seem to be aware it's actually on but their kids do judging by the amount searching in vain for the source of the monkey noises.

There is an undeniable 'musicality' to the piece. The insects form a pulse or rhythm of sorts. I don't think it's too fanciful to suggest that you can hear some Autechre in it... If you watch people inside the glasshouse you certainly see some of them nodding, absent mindedly, 'in time' with it.

The last time I listened to it I saw someone familiar looking sat under a palm, eyes shut, smiling. It was Watson who got up and left quietly, unnoticed, after it ended.

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/watson__chris/318cover.jpg

Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Some favorites that haven't been mentioned:

Voices Of The Rainforest: A Day In The Life Of The Kaluli People Recordings by anthropologist Steven Feld in the Bosavi highlands of Papua New Guinea, documenting the chatter as the rainforest awakens, the imitative call and response chants of the people as they harvest and log, an evening ceremony, and then the drones of the forest again. Possibly the best recording ever documenting the origins of music.

Antarctica by Douglas Quin - the underwater recordings of Weddell seals are the main attraction here. You can hear them in the last 5 minutes of this presentation.

Brokenhearted Dragonflies: Insect Electronica from Southeast Asia by Tucker Martine - high pitched drones that, yes, sound synthetic (much as the Weddell seals above do).

A Sound Map of the Hudson River by Annea Lockwood. A full descent from upstate streams to NY harbor by a well-known academic composer.

Weather Report by Chris Watson - my favorite of his, due largely to the inclusion of the cavernous creaking ice recorded at Vatnakojull glacier.

L-fields by Michael Prime - Don't know if this quite qualifies, as these are recordings of bioelectrical fields of psychedelic plants (Cannabis sativa, Amanita muscaria, and Lophophora williamsii).

ὑστέρησις (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir Jenssen - Cho Oyu 8201m – Field Recordings From Tibet documenting his trek up Cho Oyu is really nice. village sounds, yak herds, snow crunching... a good time.

hobbes, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Nice collection of field recordings from India: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Broos/Field_Recordings_from_India/

geeta, Thursday, 25 August 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

http://thefieldreporter.wordpress.com/

there's this self-absorbed artworld quality to a lot of the trappings and discourse of fieldreporter-style field recording that consistently irritates me, especially when i go to find something and discover that it's available -for money-. like, i understand the reasons for even field recorders and sound artists to sell recordings, be compensated for their time, their creative work, have their perspective honored, and for their recordings to be embedded in meaning-making practices like having titles and packaging and lifestyle marketing blurbage and little philosophical reflections like the white cards next to the installations in galleries, and i get all the post-cagean post-duchampian rationales for the extended criteria for the art object, it's not supposed to be any different—

but it still seems like there's something… incongruous, at least, about commodifying what would otherwise be one of the most modest, least insistently 'artistic' uses of sound around. something that seems essentially self-effacing has all kinds of ego- and social- junk laid right back over it.

j., Monday, 24 February 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link

cosine

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 February 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

plus there's the tediously constant pair of nostrums

1. u really need to undo some of ur listening habits

2. oho u thought this recording was real! actually there was a very sophisticated process

like, sure, but, really? when that's connected to a zen-style mindfulness schtick i can get the practice-minded aspect of it, nothing new, always the same, still work on self to do, but when it touches on more of an artistic challenging-the-audience critique-of-, my bad temper clouds everything else and makes the schtick seem like posturing or worse, charlatanism that trades on the relative oddity of being preoccupied with field recording and hour-long stretches of the sound of almost nothing

j., Monday, 24 February 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link

i just want to listen to recordings of spaces, without fuckery, and without being beaten over the head with nerd laws

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 February 2014 08:25 (ten years ago) link

http://www.musicfromtheice.blogspot.com/2012/02/sounds-from-yosemites-frozen-lakes.html

unbelievable booming & crackling sounds. usually lakes that are this completely frozen are also covered with snow and difficult to record with hydrophones, but due to the drought (and the fact that all of yosemite's roads were still snowfree and open in january) cheryl leonard got some unbelievable recordings

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link

did I mention that these recordings were unbelievable

other recent listening: http://www.discogs.com/No-Artist-The-Lyrebirds-Of-Tidbinbilla/release/2908085

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link

& if you haven't heard cheryl's other music, it's magic: http://www.musicfromtheice.blogspot.com/2013/12/new-instrument.html

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

just got round to this, the yosemite ice sounds truly fantastic

ogmor, Thursday, 20 March 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Does anyone on here actually, um, record field recordings?

djh, Sunday, 18 December 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

Pondering buying one of these ... Zoom H2n Portable Recorder

djh, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

i actually use on old sony minidisc recorder.

( ^_^) (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link

What do you *actually* record? I often think "I'd love a recording of those church bells" when I'm on holiday and kind of wish I'd been able to record the starlings at Otmoor the other week. I'm trying to decide how much enjoyment I would get out of recording (sometimes I think a lot).

djh, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

i record them on my iphone :)

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

I've heard good things about the Zoom, also heard good things about the stereo condenser mics that you can plug into your phone. I still use my old Roland Edirol, or an app called Smart Voice Recorder on my phone. Or, for best results when I'm not lazy, this:

http://https%3A//pbs.twimg.com/media/CaFd-3EWAAY7kx_.jpg

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

The zoom is a brilliant budget option. I'm not sure you'd need much else.

Fwiw, I started to record a bunch of things (I got it to record a nearby rookery) and I quite quickly got a bit bored of it.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

I used to do this sort of thing (this is 15 years ago! Jesus. Sharp MD recorder and small-capsule binaural mics)...

https://soundcloud.com/michaeljones-5/se18-woolwich

I should do it again.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Ta, all.

Anyway, new Simon Scott tape here:

http://touchshop.org/product_info.php?products_id=804

djh, Monday, 2 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Any thoughts on Kate Carr's recordings?

djh, Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link

Might be of interest:

https://boingboing.net/2017/02/06/10-hours-of-ambient-noise-from.html

djh, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link

Can anyone remember the name of a recording of *ice melting*, probably released sometime in the nineties?

Google not really helping as lots of people seem to have recorded ice ... but this was actually released.

djh, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

not from the 90s but... maybe this?
https://www.discogs.com/Marc-Namblard-Chants-Of-Frozen-Lakes/release/1337021

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

what the that white noise arctic ocean icebreaker thing sounds amazing!

niels, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

looks great on HDTV too

Brad C., Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Baikal Ice by Peter Cusack?
Fathom by Douglas Quinn?

Not sure/don't recall about cracking ice sounds, but both made in icy environments. Fathom is underwater recordings at the poles.

bryan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

It's Quin. Autocorrect strikes again.

bryan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

It wasn't this ... I don't actually think this much *happened* (but I quite like this):

https://taalem.bandcamp.com/album/hollow-river-alm-89

djh, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link

It was this (released later than I thought):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jFZ_pvSnAA

Thanks all.

djh, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

https://flagdayrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/the-black-isle

The Black Isle by Serbian composer Manja Ristić. Enjoyed getting totally immersed into this last night.

calzino, Monday, 8 July 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

swedish lidl have released an album with field recordings from lidl

— julia (@aircode_) December 15, 2020


https://t.co/CkGgyjiCo1

— julia (@aircode_) December 15, 2020

Get in there, Saer!

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm a little (very) confused by e.g. Lidl and Lego doing field recordings/AMSR albums in recent years and making them so long. And yet I want MORE

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 14 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

ASMR

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 14 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

I wish they weren't just playlists I wish I could have Lidl on the shelf particularly as I split 50-50 between Aldi and Lidl as I cannot afford Tesco atm

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 14 August 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link


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