stephen stills sucks

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Good to hear that someone else likes Manassas. I like the album because for once Stills dropped the "peace, love, and flowers" vibe and let his inner asshole shine through. Don't know if it was the coke binges or a sudden flash of recognition but, "The song of love is empty now" indeed.

It might be the best example of sixties disillusionment put on record.

Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link

the hillman factor makes me want to check out manassas, but something about stills makes me very afraid. weird how crosby, as monumentally jerky as he is, is somehow the best of the CSN trio when you look at his career in its entirety.

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't particularly like Manasasas. it's a buncha rural folky blues tracks with lots of slide guitar. i'm sure lots of people like it and that's totally alright with me.

i like some of stills other solo stuff.

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 03:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Manassas LP is good. Crosy > Stills, duh. Stills sucks, but give the man his due - he played a mean guitar, especially on some of those live Buffalo Springfield jams. But yeah, obvious dud.

Wand Milius (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

So what if ILM doesn't like Stephen Stills? He can always fall back on his looks.

http://www.nrk.no/img/493374.jpeg

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.revistaview.com.br/publisher/1104/img/sucesso/0333.jpg

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

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Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chasingthefrog.com/movie-villains/darth-vader/shawscene.jpg

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:52 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.enroweb.com/dotclear/images/2005/Giamatti.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://garciala.blogia.com/upload/20060512110654-egghead.jpg

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno guys.

I've just spent the last few days listening to "Stephen Stills" and "Stephen Stills 2". Perhaps the lyrical sentiments are tired and cliched, but the music and the performances are pretty damn good. Dude had a lot of southern white-boy soul.

And funny enough, I felt compelled to listen to these albums after I read Shakey. And Stills DEFINITELY was the most loathsome character in the book. I shied away from ever checking him out because I've always detested CSN, and only ever had time for Ohio and Helpless when it came to the CSNY canon.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, he wrote some good songs with Buffalo Springfield! And played some nice guitar too!

Am I Re-elected Yet? (Dada), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

actually i don't like 'manassas', i haven't even heard it! i just saw it for cheap on vinyl at a record store and thought i might have to pick it up someday.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"BLuebird" is the best Buffalo SPringfield song.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, his Buffalo Springfield stuff was terrific. UntiI recently, I didn't know that "Questions" (aka the second half of "Carry On" Stills' best CSNY moment) was a Springfield song.

Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Lots of great stuff on the Springfield records. Then there's that Stills song that goes "Would you like to shoot me down?" Classic (sic) hippie paranoia.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Stills needs someone around him to reign in his worst instincts. By all indications his worst instincts are execrable. Not surprising then that his best stuff is with Young and Hillman.

Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a few good songs on Manassas like "It Doesn't Matter" but overall it's a typically padded double-album. Stills kept making albums thru the 70s thst got more & more pointless, ca. disco/punk 1978 I remember an album coming into my record store that had Stills on the cover riding a horse in a jockey outfit. wtf, why do Columbia even bother releasing this stuff I wondered? Nobody bought.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 21 September 2006 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Interesting

C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I am totally interested, but I'm a fan of early Still.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 25 June 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"Change Partners" came in while I was shopping in Home Depot a couple weeks back and it sounded great.

that disc does look interesting, thanks for the heads-up.

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

ok so I picked up 'Stephen Stills II' and "Change Partners" is truly incredible ... C'mon Amateurist

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:29 (sixteen years ago) link

c'mon stormy, it took you this long?!?

hstencil, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Stephen Stills sucks?

Well we wouldn't have had Christina Applegate if he hadn't...

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:42 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah hstencil I am a lame-o, what can I say!! I am always late to the party. Other super later acquisitions include the entire Bonnie Raitt catalog which I have been gorging on recently/

"Change Partners"'s time changes -- verse/chorus-- are pretty and slinky, and this ode to 70s free love is real fine from where i sit

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link

you're not lame - oh wait, you like bonnie raitt, maybe you are lame!

no seriously it had more to do with amateurist than anything. you're still my bro.

ps. kenny williams better make a trade already, amirite?

hstencil, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:51 (sixteen years ago) link

dude the Sox bullpen is a travesty .. If they end up trading Buehrle, so be it, as far as I care -- Mark deserves better than the bunch of bums they assembled behind him. first five Bonnie Raitt albums are incredible, dude, check them out!!

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i can't get behind raitt

i can get behind buehrle as a met tho!!!!!

(never will happen, dr. morbs doth protest too much)

(dude hates lo duca too, i don't get it)

hstencil, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm rocking Manassas all the time. Stills put together some great over-amped Springfield/Sanatana/Hendrix type throwdowns. But I like the country-rock side the best.

I'm starting to check out the first couple Raitt albums. She's definitely channeling a post-Springfield California: early Little Feat, Paul Pena, singer-songwriter meets the blues. Cool.

QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/510FYuSKkOL._AA240_.jpg

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I like his demo of "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" - you can really hear his guitar playing and it's pretty amazing.

Mark, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Isley Brothers version of "Love the One You're With" is killer.

Garnet Memes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought I liked 'Turn Back The Pages' when I heard it once after not hearing it for 25 years. Then I realized I despise the sentiment of the lyric, the music isn't much, and the arrangement is pretty lame. I am so very sorry.

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

he doesn't suck, but good lord he can be irritating. i was just listening to a Stills-Young Band bootleg and it's sort of amazing how mush mouthed his singing was at that point. Like he didn't feel it necessary to sing his lyrics, just kinda approximate them vaguely. But he's got some good stuff. Like his collab w/ Al Kooper on "Season of the Witch" is pretty sweet. I don't think I've really heard Manassas, but I probably should.

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I wanted to like Manassas, but I'm just couldn't get with Stills' use of Latin sounds. Think "Uno Mundo" but for long suites at a time. One of these days maybe I'll see what's great about it.

Soul Finger! (Euler), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

What a fascinating thread.

MCCCXI (u s steel), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, teh Latin stuff is only one side of the double album...

Random trolling, brutal snubs, darted zings & decisive bans (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Really? I guess I never got that far. I still have the cd, on the hopes that someday I'll put it on and love the one I'm with.

Soul Finger! (Euler), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

its taking all of my self control not to edit the title to "Steven Stills still sucks". been looking at it and thinking that all day.

ITS MADDENING

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

steven stills sucks, still

goole, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

still, stills, steven, sucks

goole, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

stephen stills sucks still, stephen

omar little, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

http://onlinetalent.com/artist/rock/images/stephen%20stills.jpeg

skeletor, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

stills.... you turn me on

velko, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

this video is comedy gold to me in so many ways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CboU0iUefv4

Robert Necrofrost, Thursday, 24 September 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

lol, I read this as "stephen still sucks" & I was like no wonder we haven't seen that dude around here lately.

Andrew "Nice" Clay (Pillbox), Thursday, 24 September 2009 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 October 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Stephen Stills did not like Punk Rock. Foreigner get a pass though. pic.twitter.com/dilG3ehFP8

— Bobby Lee (@BobbyLeeBoogie) December 9, 2022

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 9 December 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

johnny "rotten" is right

mark s, Friday, 9 December 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

Is that real?

Wet Legume (morrisp), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

i sure hope so.

Oh, Stevie, you are my number one gypsy goddess. (Austin), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

Dirty, Loud, and Tasteful: the Stephen Stills Story
by Stephen Stills

Oh, Stevie, you are my number one gypsy goddess. (Austin), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

"FIRST QUESTION: IS THIS A GUY OR A CHICK?"

"sir this is a wienerschnitzel"

Oh, Stevie, you are my number one gypsy goddess. (Austin), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

Do you think he was slapping random things all offbeat when he said "That groove my man Mick is laying down"

Oh, Stevie, you are my number one gypsy goddess. (Austin), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

johnny "rotten" is right

The comparison to Croz was classic.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

xpost LOL!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

From FB:

"I keep bass strings on my bass for two years at a time. I play bass so hard that I really thump it so, when I get a new string, I buy some barbecue sauce and sit and rub it in. This is because it's got to get a little funky, rusty, and greasy in there so it will start to respond. And that's something you can't build on a machine." Stephen Stills

it rubs the BBQ sauce on its skin

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

so gross!

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

Does he say what brand of BBQ sauce he uses? I need to know if thicker sauce = thicker bass

J. Sam, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

Anything left over from what the strings he slathers on his ribs.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

it's actually really common practice not to change bass strings, they are really "zingy" when they are new (talking roundwounds not flatwounds) that can be overly aggressive and unpleasant esp for certain kinds of music.

the god of bass, James Jamerson, never changed strings unless one broke. Plenty of Nashville guys and reggae guys too. It really does help get that deader thump sound. I've even read about some old Southern down home trick of rubbing bacon fat on bass strings.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

I personally only change them every year or two years when I take my bass into the shop for a setup and adjustment, I just have the shop put new ones on but I'm sure I've gone longer than that before.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

one time recently when I saw Shellac somebody asked Bob Weston how often he changes his bass strings and he said "every other show", so he must really like that zing

sleeve, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

they are a very zingy band

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

but yeah that makes sense, Bob's sound is totally new strings

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

Didn't Jaco do something similar using fried chicken grease or something?

I do question the authenticity of that blindfold test posted above. Did people use the phrase "killing it" back then? I'd go look for the source of the interview but I'm too lazy

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link

Anything left over from what the strings he slathers on his ribs.

And just to be clear, literally his own torso.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

Tired: Bass Players Who Never Change(d) Their Strings

Wired: Bass Players Who Never Change(d) Their Sauce

okay, he's a creep and i hate him and animal fat on the strings is a thing sure buuuut... actual bbq sauce and literal rusty strings? lolwhat!? is he okay?

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link

the sauce is that extra mojo you need

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link

okay, right. i like how dumble amps sound. i "get it man."

but the rust? (thinking emoji)

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link

Rust Never Something Something


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