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interesting mr mencap. not heard the earlier stuff. will track down.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I quite like Lews Tunes.

Is it unfashionable to say that I'm still really, really looking forward to Skinnyman's LP (the sampler Lowlife put out last year was amazing, I thught) and also Rodney P's record?

Pleased to see that people really like Blak Twang here, even though I don't rate him that highly (I think Mystro's a better MC, though I haven't bought the new record yet).

I recently caught up with the Foregn Beggars LP, which is pretty darned good but about 5 or 6 songs too long.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that Rodney P album finally coming out then, a mere year after it was originally meant to? There's a single on upcoming release lists, so...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 June 2004 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they were initially talking about it coming out in 2002!

Tim (Tim), Monday, 7 June 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link

In other news, it seems that Lewis Parker has moved to Queens! It'll be interesting to see what he comes up with over there.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 08:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll tell you what I am looking forward to, though: Yoda's going to be doing an artist album by the end of the year. That will either be the best thing ever, or total shite. I'm hoping for the former.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that Rodney P album finally coming out then, a mere year after it was originally meant to? There's a single on upcoming release lists, so...
-- Dom Passantino (lifetimepilingu...), June 7th, 2004.

Is the single from the delayed Rodney P album or something new? He's playing here on the weekend so I might get a chance to ask him bout it.

Listening to the last Kid Acne album, he seemed like a bit of novelty act to me. He's actually taken seriously over there then?

Am keen to hear new Skinnyman. Roots Manuva too (although less enthusiastic about him nowadays), I noticed there was no new tracks on that Big Dada sampler...

Mil, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a feeling that Mr. Manuva may not be on Big Dada for his next LP, but I can't remember why I have that feeling. Maybe Etienne / Tron will arrive and let us know.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I remember hearing something about Manuva leaving Big Dada around... last October?

I keep meaning to get the Kid Acne album, but never bother in the end. He seems like a pretty funny guy from interviews, but is the fullplayer not worth it?

I actually having the feeling the new Manuva is going to be hideously "worthy", which would be a big change. Riddla needs to be on at least three tracks or I'll be upset.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I wouldn't bother with the Kid Acne, not much replay value I wouldn't think.

Anyone know much about Est'elle? That '1980' track is quite nice.

Mil, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Est'elle's great, I think, and probably with the most actual real star potential in UKHH at present. She's kind of part of the Sterling Collat bunch as far as I can tell, and she can really sing and really rap, also she looks nice which never seems to do much harm. They put out mix CDs now and again and the one I have is full of great stuff. Her take on "Uptown Top Ranking" was of course brilliant but that rhythm is apparently unruinable.

Also Est'elle matches Tempa on "Domestic Science" which is something not many manage.

Dom I bought the Kid Acne LP for £5, which was too much.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link

damn. not much love for the Kid. i liked Council Pop. oh well each to their own. give me Kids style over the Streets anyday, and i have to say that Infinite Lives is seriously growing on me... weirdly enough.

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Does Infinite Livez have problems with Pitman? It seemed like it from that HHC article.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

What did it say?

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

ooo .. not seen that article .. zat the issue with free prince po mix ?

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it was the issue before that (that would have been the Illmatic tenth anniversary one). I can't remember the exact wording, but it was a joke to the extent of "Your album is an assault on deceny, full of toilet humour and subject matter that borders on the inane" "But that's a Pitman CD".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link

est'elle is truly grebt. "excuse me" produced by fusion is gorge. shame the lmhr festival got canned as i was lkg fwd to seeing her (and klash).

ocp: agree that scorzayzee's tune is much more than just daily tel-bait. someone shld release it as a single.

btw props to mark e as that website is the best. loved the more fire review from back then.

fletcher dexter, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I've just bought "The Sagas of K-lash-nek-off". He really does only have one song.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Also: "1980" is the best British hip-hop single since "Witness (One Hope)". Discuss.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

possibly agree on "1980" though "i'll be surprised" which came out the same day is the best thing i've ever heard on lowlife and i think could have withstood some airplay.

you are wrong re klashnekoff, at least to the extent i'm interpreting yr post as a criticism. i'm even looking forward to the forthcoming universal soldiers lp.

fletcher dexter, Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

At the moment, I only *get* "It's Murda", the rest just sounds like your standard UK hip-hop fare. Those of you that reckon the album grows... is that what I'm doing wrong? Does the album blossom around "It's Murda"? And what's his problem with Tina Turner?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

...not sure but it's nothing like as bad as his problem with paul condon.

"it's murda" i think is one of 3 or 4 standout tracks. i suppose the thing about "sagas" is that it's a comp, really, of a few 12"s, not a properly sequenced album, and it may just be that the songs sounded better on one side of vinyl - if you're new to all of them they probably do blur a little.

fwiw, he also seems to flip between "conscious" lyrics and really unreconstructed stuff. the last universal soldiers 12" he did with ultra is odd - a lot less ragga-ish, it's dark and quite grimy though i like it it's unrealistically thug-like.

fletcher dexter, Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I will say that "the Black Russian" is easily my favourite nickname for an MC ever.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the Klashnekoff is extremely consistent, I wouldn't say any track sounds well-above the quality of others. The similiar tone / pacing throughout the album only makes me scrutinise each track more. fletcher otm about the 'acts hard but still intelligent' thing.

Still like '1980', but I find it a little too clean (verging on sterile) sounding to really develop a huge attachment too. Though it is the only UKHH track I've heard in ages with any solid commercial potential (already getting airplay here in Australia).

Mil (Mil), Thursday, 5 August 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

kalashnekoff is obviously the best thing to happen in uk hiphop for ages. it's getting itself together now. uk hiphop gets lots of pirate play now, it never used to, outside of itch. new people coming through like esquire. i want to hear that song with wiley and skinnyman.

......, Friday, 6 August 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

OK then, "Council Estate of Mind" has been out for nearly a fortnight, my review shall be finding it's way onto Stylus in the near future, discuss it here.

"Fuck The Hook" really does need that end 30 seconds removing from it.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

new issue of hip hop connection is all UK hip hop based with a pretty cool covermount cd with all uk beats on it. not bad. and the kid acne artwork makes it all worth while n my opinion .. (kid acne comp @ ireallylovemusic .. shameless i know .. but hey ..)
and the best track on the cd for me is 'black rose' by klashnekoff. very very good.

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

What did you think to the top 100 UK hip-hop tracks then? Seemed to be all the right tracks in slightly the wrong order. "Domestic Science" was far far too low.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

arse. re-read that. the Kid Acne artwork is in the mag .. not cover of the cd. soz for the misleading rubbish.

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

couldn't say. am far too ignorant of the uk scene in recent times. though i was glad to see Ruthless Rap Assassins in the chart .. the list made me realise i should definitely investigate a lot more stuff though .. even so .. Cookie Crew !? that one shocked me. guess folks forgot about Stereo MC's fist lp ..

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Hah, my thoughts were "Where's "West End Girls"?"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought it was a good list - great to see props for gunshot, caveman, hijack, even mc duke. would have liked to see 3 wize men for old time's sake though...

looking forward to checking out the cd. of the stuff on it i only have klash, capkon and scorzayzee (which i rate all of)...

fletcher dexter, Monday, 23 August 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

glad i aint the only 1 who remembers 3 Wize men .. only heard a few tracks on a comp that RK put out but was ace. the list also completley missed on uk hip hop act that probably brought a lot more listeners into hip hop than they are ever given credit for .. Stereo MC's .. i realise they are probably regarded as a bad pile these days .. but damn On 33 was a fine loop as were several other tracks off lp 1 and 2 .. amazing. cookie crew - yes, stereo mcs- no.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
um, i would be really grateful if ANYONE felt able to join me in the love i have for the lee ramsay track on the cappo resilience 12"... it's called "verbal latitude" - i think it is just aaaaace. please ?

mark - i hearted the cookie crew at the time - i think they were peel faves too, but they also made it into "indie top 20 vol3" which at the time was like CROSS OVER...

fletcher dexter, Monday, 6 September 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
more

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link

um, has anyone got the universal soldiers lp yet ?

or - the offer is still open - does anyone wish to join me in declaring any affection at all for the works of cappo / lee ramsay ? please ?

fletcher dexter, Sunday, 26 September 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

it's time for the weekly bump of this thread, which at least proves that ukgrime has rather more adherents here than ukhh...

"slanguage" by universal soldiers is a good purchase on initial listen, although it isn't remotely groundbreaking - makes most sense on the headphones whilst wandering around london now it's colder and darker again. will take a few listens to see if it has the same kind of lyrical invention which only became apparent slowly on the various taster singles.

re the cappo / ramsay record, the track by mr 45 is also really well put together - it's called "freedom".

any new 12"s on the horizon by any ilxor's personal uk favourites ?

fletcher dexter, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

What's the story with this Micall Parkinshun, or howeverthefuck it's spelt, dude? It may be the worst name for a rapper ever, but I'm hearing good reports. Recommended releases?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Good day and welcome to the monthly bump of the UK hip hop thread. This month my question is... any views on Rodney P's new record, entitled "The Future" with (I hope) self-knowing irony ? I am sure I'm not dreaming that a few people here were looking forward to it since last year...

In the meantime I would like to give much love to Paragon's "The Long Road" from earlier this yr - anyone else heard it ?

fletcher dexter, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

been waiting for that bloody rodney p record since 2002. its out, and any changes to the version that leaked last year?

i noticed a new 'trouble' 12" in a store the other day.

Mil (Mil), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 08:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Good day. New Roots Manuva slated for early 2005... and an advance single "double draft" to download at http://www.rootsmanuva.co.uk/ starting nov 15 (for 99p, wtf? Who decided that was a good idea?)

superultramega (superultramarinated), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The "Check It" tune Roots did for Skitz' homegrown mix earlier this year was pretty special. Apparently Twang has now finally finished "Rotton Club", so we could be in for a pretty bumper few months at the start of the 05.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Akira the Don.... I've now heard him. "Drinking Song" is g8, but doesn't that style get somewhat weary over an entire album? I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, though.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, and I'm calling "Pit Closure" as UKHH album of the year. His grime tune really needs to be heard to be believed...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
is anyone else feeling the latest Akira the Don mixtape - ATD7 ?

its up @ http://www.akirathedon.com - as well as the tracklisting .

the opening mash of the verve with sage francis is sweet and things get better as you get deeper in ..

app. this is to get us ready for new sounds .. which are on the way ..

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Jim Screech! He combines hip-hop and reggae, just imagine!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=92588234

Saw him supporting Roots Manuva about a month back and he was pretty good.

chap, Friday, 7 November 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

who else here is in awe of darq e freaker, aka the best discovery of poll season

imago, Friday, 24 February 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link

the only DEF stuff i have via ninja, i.e. the ADHD ep, is not hip hop at all !!?

mark e, Friday, 24 February 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

yeah he calls his stuff 'urban electronic' whether it's more straight techno or hip-hop

fuck though, the 'don't freak out' mixtape is nextlev, u gotta hear it, some of the best production in the universe and generally exemplary collabs

imago, Friday, 24 February 2017 22:07 (seven years ago) link

his track on the first Danny Brown record was pretty hot

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 February 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

if I could narrow it down to one track, 'brown + clear' ft chynna is...incendiary

imago, Friday, 24 February 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

oh and he was responsible for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGP6p18H2sU

imago, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 01:14 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBbHzN1ZI-k

I think this is Abra Cadabra's first solo track and it's an absolute banger

paolo, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_ElrgdLKWg

Most of the drill I've heard hasn't really done anything for me, all the beats sound the same (yeah I'm old). This one's good though. Carns Hill seems to be the best producer around AFAIK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZUQnr8p1V4

Coming soon to a Fifa soundtrack near you

paolo, Monday, 25 September 2017 10:02 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG0T8sn7sG8

I think this is the first Brummie rap track I've ever heard

paolo, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

you've not heard lady leshurr?

imago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah I forgot about her. And Mist :(

paolo, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

Surely you've heard 'She Wants A Man From Brum'?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

That's grime not rap. Jaykae and Dapz On The Map are the only Brummie grime MCs who I rate

paolo, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 10:09 (six years ago) link

this is good tho - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6J9CT5Byqc

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M_5oYU-IsU

So this is pretty big right?

paolo, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

it's a joke tho?

niels, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfdLjisykwQ

Yxng Bane takes a break from afro bashment for the winter time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jtl1fTccqs

Dave has the best rapper name. Also excellent taste in jumpers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7lTHOMmnnM

67 go a bit more pop on this one (relatively speaking)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLnp2ZnZAng

I MAKE THE MASH MMMBOP LIKE HANSON

paolo, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

Xp yes :)

paolo, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnhMTdNepk0

paolo, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AfwktcYLfI

Brummie drill

paolo, Sunday, 7 January 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

In pretty much every drill video there's guys rapping with their mouths covered. Do they just dance about in front of the mic for the video and then add the vocals on later or what

paolo, Sunday, 7 January 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link


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