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I don't know about "all those stories"--but Ike Turner's push-a-singer-to-the-point-of-cruelty is well-documented. He's as much as admitted it himself. First-hand witnesses to studio shenanigans have recalled it to my face.

Candi Staton on Rick Hall: "Rick didn't always understand his singers, he thought everybody should be hoarse. that in order to sing soulfully you had to have a gruff voice. So he used to work me until my throat was absolutely irritated to get the sound he wanted."

amateurist knows how to hold a grudge. I don't know about you, but I picture a sort of cross between Billy Barty and Luc Sante. A Little Lord Fauntleroy in powder-blue knickers adjusting his monocle and ashing his cigarette holder. "Drucilla, if I told you once I've told you a thousand times, only I can handle the 180-Gram vinyl."

a sadist of a different sort, perhaps?

and to all a goodnight

― rumple, Thursday, 20 May 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

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Candi Staton on Rick Hall: "Rick didn't always understand his singers, he thought everybody should be hoarse. that in order to sing soulfully you had to have a gruff voice. So he used to work me until my throat was absolutely irritated to get the sound he wanted.""

that's different though. that's a matter of him pushing her until her voice had a certain quality.

i guess it's the sometimes-presumed direct connection between actual *emotional* distress and the rendering thereof that galls me.

i find your description of me sort of flattering in a weird way.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 20 May 2004 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

if singers were children i could understand this idea better, like supposedly vincente minnelli told maggie o'brien her dog had died (ouch!) before she played that scene in "meet me in st. louis" where she smashes up the snowmen. not sure i buy that either, but it's more plausible only because i can imagine children not to "act" so much as "be." which in the case of o'brien (already a seasoned actress by 1944) is probably a fallacy.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 20 May 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

and that's what I described.

Both men got excellent results, in my humble opinion.

And a big sloppy kiss on the slightly powdered cheek of Lord A and I bid you adieu.

― rumple, Thursday, 20 May 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

but he didn't emotionally terrorize candi station, whereas i thought goldner (or whomever) was supposed to have hurt smith to get the desired sob in the voice--a tactic whose effectiveness i must doubt. seems like a romantic(ist) fallacy to me, with some exceptions.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 20 May 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean if this were true imagine the emotional terrorism going on at johnnie ray sessions!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 20 May 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

oh man, this song

― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 June 2016 02:27 (seven years ago) link

maybe if i hold your hand
you will understand
and maybe if i kiss your lips
i'll be at your command
oh, maybe

i've prayed and prayed to the lord
to send you back, my love
but instead you came to me only in my dreams

― k3vin k., Friday, 10 June 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link

i mean come on. come. the. fuck. on.

― k3vin k., Friday, 10 June 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

“I love you so” is my new obsession

― k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 November 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

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