JARVIS!

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I agree with Gareth. When did this trend start, naming non-debut albums eponymously? Whoever started it deserves to have their brain scooped out with a coathanger. Often you hear the artists say something along the lines of "this album defines our sound/our direction/who we are". That really irks me. But "We Love Life" is an even worse name. Maybe that could be a thread in itself...

EdwardO, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The album's wonderful, great, yes, etc -- but for some reason, I'm not finding myself listening to it all that often. Maybe I don't need this record right now the way I needed the last two

Yeah, I mean it's pretty good but I'd rather listen to my other stuff. I don't know exactly what it is about it, it's the same thing with the new Spiritualized. I just don't want to listen to them.

Ally, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Seeing as Scott Walker's been mentioned - could anyone recommend some tracks, a representation of his 'sound', and the classics. I'm criminally ignorant of his work.

K-reg, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Scott Walker-- First four lps SCOTT1 thru SCOTT4 are the classic stuff, 3 and 4 the best, all Walker originals with a few Brel songs. The first two lps have classic songs but too many MOR covers. Later lps patchy, less orchestra stuff, more rock/country, no original tracks. Compilations BOYCHILD and SINGS JACQUES BREL both excellent, the former contains most of Walkers compostions from his first five lps, none of the dross, latter all his Brel covers.

RW, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This album sounds like Crime & the City Solution.

Otis Wheeler, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Maybe part of my problem is that this album features Pulp at the least disco I've ever known them. Which is fine, bands need to grow and move on and you can only do a "Disco 2000" once -- but it goes some way to explaining why I'm not listening to it obsessively.

It is a nice record though. I like "Minnie Tymperly" a lot even though I heard a live version of that one awhile ago.

Ian, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've sat on the fence about Pulp for a long time. I didn't like Different Class much, fine though the singles were. I've owned TIH since release and played it maybe 5 times without much interest. UNTIL LAST NIGHT! It's fantastic - totally classic etc etc. I wonder why it took so long to sink in. I'll write more on this when I've had more chance to really figure out WHY it's so great.

Dr. C, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
Built like a racing snake Pulp frontman Jarvis Cocker is set to release his first ever solo album in mid-2006.

Yes, it will indeed be Cocker's first time, as he apparently felt the new material wasn't suitable for his old band Pulp.

http://www.playlouder.com/news/+jarvis-shocker/

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

wasn't most pulp pretty much jarvis cocker solo stuff?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

hardly

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:50 (eighteen years ago) link

This misunderstanding is prob because he was the only constant member (which is mainly due to It being made by essentially a completely different band).

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Jarvis hit bittorrent today. Listening now. I've never been a huge fan of the man or Pulp in general, but this album's got plenty to chew on.

And if that isn't an actual sample of "Crimson & Clover" in "Black Magic," it's a flawless reproduction.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

what's a "racing snake"?

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, there's no question about it. "Black Magic" = "Crimson & Clover." Is Richard X behind this?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm liking it! Got the Crimson & Clover thing too, but that's alright. Seeing as how there's surpringly much MOR-rockers on this album, and it still sounds nice and 'now'.

Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Contacting Jarvis Cocker - (a myspace link)

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

So last night I saw the first US date of his new Jarv Is... deal. In brief, no spoilers: ridiculously good show, unsurprisingly. Fifth time I’ve seen him in any context and he’s fully achieved the look of ‘seedy literature professor from a regional university down the disco in 1975.’ Band’s sharp, a couple of old and very appropriate favorites played, but mostly stellar new songs, lots of different musical approaches, genius lines one after the other. And he was of course an understated raconteur between songs.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Finally releasing some music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U720Rz_jz_A

More than a little hammy, especially at the start, but gets good in a psychedelic/motorik kind of way as it goes on.

Much better than anything on Further Complications anyway.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

I was gonna say!

I've never been able to get into Jarvis' solo work on anywhere near the same level as prime-era Pulp.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

I've been revisiting the first solo album and I really love it. It's got a pervasive, convincing gloom about it and the full "Loss Adjuster" (released as a b-side) is great.

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Just discovered his 3-part documentary from 1999 about outsider art, great stuff, wish he made more art documentaries like this.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link

Last year when I was trying to search out music by “JARV” I found the white indie rapper JARV from Vermont and fell in love with his stuff a tiny bit. Thank you once again Mr Cocker!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

I just want to add he's the middle class son of a Tory councillor .. and it shows .. and fuck the talentless cunt!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link

So what you're saying is

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Jarvis Cocker may be middle class

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link

there wasn't any ambiguity there Ned, so either say something or fucking don't! He's a tedious conservative prick as a cultural commentator whenever I encounter him on the radio and his music is utter shite - so that is indeed what I am saying!

xp: and you can fuck off as well sic!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link

I received Jarv Is as a xmas gift. I loved the first solo album and was disappointed by the second, so I had low expectations. Turns out the sound of the album is very nice, kinda shaggy and loose. The songs aren't really there, but it was a good listen.

Awful name for a project though.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link

sorry I'm just a bit pissed tonight and have always hated this tool

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:40 (three years ago) link

Jarvis, i mean!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:40 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Jarvis Cocker may be middle class

possibly a bad idea for him to try and forge a career doing abysmal and trite social commentary where he positions himself as working class then, eh lads?

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link

would rather watch journeys into my battered haemorrhoids with any random shameless burnt out brit-pop wanker on the beeb, reeling out the usual cliches and straining to sound interesting whilst saying nothing

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:58 (three years ago) link

okay go nap it off now

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link

calzino, please don't take this the wrong way, but could you just not? please?

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 06:58 (three years ago) link

And you know we have discussed this at exhaustive length elsewhere, but the song Common People is about upper middle class people in London assuming you are working class. because you are from the north, his political views (see "Running The World") are pretty sound.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 07:03 (three years ago) link

I guarantee you I won't trouble this thread on this utter non-entity ever again!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 09:56 (three years ago) link

what's yr favourite song on 2020's JARV IS album calz?

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:06 (three years ago) link

I was just blasting out HP Sauce '77 whilst doing the school run in my very middle-class hyundai hatchback the other day!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:16 (three years ago) link

would rather watch journeys into my battered haemorrhoids with any random shameless burnt out brit-pop wanker

Shitters with Rick Witter.

Twelves, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link

alky misery :(

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

Rick Witter had a greatest hits album go top ten in 1999, he was still a ways off the toilet circuit, let alone burning out up calzino's fundament

"Rick Witter's British Shitters" should absolutely be a travel show though

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link


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