Flying Saucer Attack: Classic or Dud?

I heard the Crescent album and it made little to no impression on me. I have two older albums by them and they didn't do much more, to be honest. Matt Elliott lives in France now and does live things every so often; Movietone are, I *think*, still extant but they always did stuff on the downlow anyway; not aware of either of the two FSAs up to anything. Who else is there?

heard some stuff i liked...

POX?

Whew, I could draw up a list but my brain is currently fried. But speaking as an FSA/3EF/Amp/Crescent/Light/Movietone junkie in general, there's a lot out there...

Yeah, a POX would be hard. What's David Pierce up to, anyway?

Elvis Telecom to thread...

FSA POX!
1.Standing Stone (Distance)
2.Soaring High (Distance)
3.Dreaming Hill (Rural Psych)
4.A Silent Tide (Rural Psych)
5.In the Light of Time (Further)
6.Still Point (Further)
7.Outdoor Miner (single)
8.Coming Home (single)
9.Feedback Song (Chorus)
10.Always (Chorus)

I know that D. Pearce and Jessica Bailiff had a collaboration album on Kranky as Clear Horizon.

i heard that wire cover, it's good. plus some other things, dunno what tho.

will check out, thanks

i like everything fsa did pretty much except i wasn't that big on Mirror or the collaboration with tele:funken (which was just fsa samples, so it wasn't really their fault).

Yeah I got pretty much nothing out of the Tele:funken thing tho I liked Mirror when it came out. Still think New Lands is well underrated. Forgot about Clear Horizon as well! Probably cos I never heard it

Yeah, New Lands is good. I just don't listen to it near as much as the early ones.

i haven't listened to new lands in a long time. come to think of it, i haven't listened to ANY of their albums in a long time. further might be my fave if i had to pick one.

gotta love that groovy mirror cover though:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00003XAJB.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

hey Ned, did Light release anything besides that single on Wurlitzer Jukebox? 'cause that's all I have, but I love it. And does anyone know what exactly the FSA connection was?

What in the hell! Never seen that. Is that a Savage Pencil design? My LP copy is a light brown sleeve with strange line drawings

xpost - album called 'Turning' IIRC

There was a Light full-length on Wurlitzer Jukebox that a friend of mine I had. I remember really loving it, but I heard it around the time that I was fully into this kind of thing. I would love to hear that again.
xpost-that's the US (Drag City) cover.

And yes, it is Savage Pencil.

Anyone heard Clear Horizon? I don't like Jessica Bailiff...

there were three Light full-lengths, Turning, Paperboat and the fairly recent Waterside Reverberations on Unlabel. i seem to remember at least as many 7"s.

i don't believe that there was any connection between Dave Mercer and FSA other than the special camaraderie enjoyed by the Bristol bands.

wow, thanks! I'll have to keep an eye out for those.

Yeah, I have the first two Light albums but not that third one. Must investigate. A comp of the singles would be great.

Speaking of, the three disc Amp rarities comp is killer.

xpost. That Clear Horizon album is pretty much of a piece with the Flying Saucer Attack stuff, and it's *very* good. I've mentioned it in a few other threads: seems to have gotten completely overlooked because nobody knew who it was.

"xpost-that's the US (Drag City) cover."

i never knew there were different covers! never hurts to sell the yanks a little razamataz.

Trip Maker and others on this thread...thanks! I have long been an enthusiast of some unholy trinity or quadrernity or whatever of U.S. west coast bands influenced by F.S.A. (it's not too difficult to guess the suspects), but for whatever reason, I've never properly delved into Flying Saucer Attack's catalog. Gratzi for the recommendations and erudition.

Now I need to head over to the Dr. Savannah's Buzzard blah-blah Band thread to express thanks for turning me on to that stuff.

'tis the season.

U.S. west coast bands influenced by F.S.A. (it's not too difficult to guess the suspects)

Aptly phrased.

ha, yeah. 'nuff said.

I second Clear Horizon. Very good album.

I think Movietone is still together, aren't they? I seem to recall they released an album a couple of years back. I love their s/t debut, but I didn't really get into the follow-ups.

picked this up the other week, 'tis pretty immersive:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:anfexqyhldfe

(let's try that again...)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21AMBVPGRFL._SL500_AA130_.jpg

yeah, that's not my fave. i hardly ever played it. not like their other stuff. but it does have a fab cover.

maria and i have a new three hour sound collage/musique concrete/fx/cut & paste & loop radio show on her radio station and i was creating material for it and i played some FSA at 45 RPM and it sounded great! like they become the greatest shoegaze band ever and dude's vocals become MBV girly and cool. i could even see listening to a whole album like that. i was impressed by this totally new band i was listening to.

the ones that really blow me away are Further and the 1st S/T one aka Rural Psychedelia. Chorus is good in parts but I remember it being kinda inconsistent since is is a singles comp. New Lands seemed like a failed extension of the formula and I was even less enthusiastic about Mirror or whatever that was called.

I also really like the later singles - Sally Free And Easy, Coming Home, and the Roy Montgomery collab.

Was just reading a good interview with Dave in Popwatch #9, I wish there were still magazines like that.

oh also the Corpus Hermeticum CD is a very different kind of beast but well worth tracking down (on MP3, I doubt it's in print). Kind of like Neil Young's Arc as applied to FSA.

further is my fave. fave cover too

http://detour-mag.com/assets/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/flyingsaucerattack.jpg

then new lands and then chorus probably. as far as faves. i need a copy of the first album. don't have one on vinyl.

picked this up the other week, 'tis pretty immersive:

Oh gee, I wonder who reviewed it.

Further is the greatest, of theirs. For any other band Rainstorm Blues would been a stupid title, but they pull even that one off

yeah any of rural psychedelia, distance, and further is wonderful. i love chorus too but it's not up to the other three. i've never heard mirror, also i think i'm one of the few who love savage pencil's cover art for it

no people think it's groovy. Though i'd hardly call them groovy, the Further cover is a perfect match as far as their sounds concerned

damn I forgot about Distance, looking at my copy of that and Chorus it seems they both have singles on them. I'm putting these on RIGHT NOW.

OK I'm leaning towards Chorus as being a tad better than Distance, but I should really listen to these like five more times. As I recall Distance has the earlier singles, Chorus is seeming more developed and assured to me. And "Feedback Song" is a real highlight.

so in order:

Soaring High/Standing Stone 7" (on Distance)
Wish/Oceans 7" (on Distance but w/instrumental Wish)
1st LP
Crystal Shade/Distance 7" (on Distance)
Land Beyond The Sun/Everywhere Was Everything 7" (never heard this!)
Beach Red Lullaby/Second Hour 7" (on Chorus)
Further LP
Outdoor Miner EP
Chorus LP (includes Peel session, comp track and 7" above plus more)
At Night split 7" with Jessamine (haven't heard this either)
In Search Of Spaces CD
Tele:Funken LP
Sally Free And Easy
"Since When" suite on Harmony Of The Spheres (I like this a lot)
collab w/Roy Montgomery
New Lands
Coming Home/Hope
Mirror

so Chorus is kind of a patchwork whereas Distance is more a proper singles comp. Much more discog info HERE.

cover of "outdoor miner" may be better than wire original. ain't easy to pull that off

Land Beyond The Sun/Everywhere Was Everything 7" (never heard this!)

you should def hear this, it's among their best IMO. the track on the jessamine split is good but quite FSA-by-numbers at the time it came out

there's also a track on an Enraptured 4-band ep that's again good but not among their best tracks

there's also an earworm demos 45 of land beyond the sun (under the name of jon + dave) which is an interesting take on the track..

i'm wondering what people might think of fsa in comparison to sun dial. it seems at times they were both going for the same thing, albeit fsa more ethereally and sun dial more garagey. and while i'm mumbling tangentials, i might as well rep for the first self-titled album by movietone, rachel brook's band after she split from fsa. for my money, that debut album is as good as anything fsa ever did

ah, you see my opinion of movietone is very much less positive than that. and then some.

youshallknowourdiscography had all of the singles ripped and available at his site some time back. probably still available. i love Movietone but I think that their first record is the weakest one.

ah, my opinion of movietone is not all that positive, except for that first album. that one haunts me, the way they establish that woozy groove in the first song and then keeping working it until the last track dissolves into mist and fog. sublime. but after that one, i have no use for them

I hardly ever listen to Movietone but I find it very rewarding when I do

Oh gee, I wonder who reviewed it.

Surprise surprise. Nice review, Ned.

i'm wondering what people might think of fsa in comparison to sun dial.

If memory serves, both bands sort of became careers by accident. I think FSA was just going to release some singles and then kinda got carried away by the momentum. Sun Dial though is clearly looking towards the late-80s era of acid rock with Bevis Frond, High Rise, and fellow travelers who had the Fun With Mushrooms comp and some issues of Ptolemaic Terrascope.

I always thought of FSA as an out-of-time post-punk band - very much a pop band (or at least with pop sensibilities) but inverted and deconstructed all to hell. Pearce could have just as easily been working in 1981 or 1994.

Maybe FSA and Gary Ramon's Quad albums?

Movietone is way, way, way underrated, even by people who generally dig this sorta thing. Those records feel like they're waiting to be rediscovered by anyone wishing there was a shoegaze band somehow more influenced by Bill Evans than Spacemen 3.

Further is my longtime favorite FSA, La Lechera. It seems to touch on everything they do well (though their truly 'pop' side isn't very well represented--maybe pair with the excellent "Outdoor Miner" single). If you like Further, I'd investigate, err, further. Generally speaking, I agree with the pfork review about "phase one" (aka the "Rachel era") being the band's peak, but alm0st everything to emerge from this scene is at least worth hearing. Follow yr bliss!

the 3 FSA "Popol Vuh" tracks are all on youtube if you do a quick search, two from the first lp, one from Distance.

the only FSA albums i didn't really listen to much were Mirror and the Tele:Funken collab. Further and New Lands are probably my faves.

i was late to the Clear Horizon album. i like that a lot. didn't even know it existed until a year or two ago:

http://www.discogs.com/artist/147841-Clear-Horizon

thanks, ppl!

the Chorus comp too. I love that.

(which edition of the Wire are you talking about? what's on the cover?)

oh, http://www.thewire.co.uk/issues/ #378

y'know i went to whsmiths on monday night and looked then to see if the new one was out. nothing...

i would totally pay real american money for a good CD box. i have a lot of stuff on vinyl, but i would love a handy box-set with albums and singles/unreleased/comp tracks. even that heartbeat/complete comp was just vinyl only, i think. and i never saw it anywhere.

just a singles/comp tracks/EP box would be cool.

i think it's safe to say that if you listen to an FSA album and like it you'll probably like most of the other stuff too.

you just never know which popol vuh people are referring to, that's the main problem i guess

― La Lechera, Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:22 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Another musical Popol Vuh to def hear sometime is the crazy orchestral piece by that title by Alberto Ginastera. It sounds nothing whatsoever like danny and florian but it's a ton of fun

sorry for boring classical derail

(new issue of The Wire is out today according to the woman in whsmiths this morning. unfortunately it was in a box that she hadn't unpacked yet so i'll have to go back (for the 4th time))

I never quite forgave FSA for beating me to covering Sally Free and Easy. My dad used to play it on his guitar all the time when I was a kid, and I wanted to cover it. So I downloaded lots of versions from Limewire or Oink or whatever it was then, and found their version sounded exactly like what I wanted to do with it. That was my intro, actually, and I do love them.

Really enjoyed that Wire piece though I'm sure reading it in the garden with a bottle of red and some Quorn Chorizo helped.

Strangely, I was bemused to find that I don't seem to own any Flying Saucer Attack albums (lost them? sold them?)

Happy to be prompted to play Movietone.

Remarkable how many people I've mentioned the Wire piece to have gone "Aren't Movietone fucking incredible? They're sounding better with time" or similar.

I don't know why I didn't pay more attention to them the first time round tbh, they fit nicely alongside hood and dean roberts and all the other post-talk talk stuff I was listening to back then. saw them play once but it was at a festival thing where the whole intimacy of their sound was lost on a fairly large and noisy crowd

Movietone that is

I could see why they would have been missed at the time. I definitely like them more *now* than *then*.

I was going to move this conversation over to a Movietone thread ... but there isn't one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b066325j

(partial) repeat of the '96 peel session

Heartbeat (Radio 1 Session, 1 Mar 1996)
Guitar Blues (Radio 1 Session, 1 Mar 1996)
Resolution Island (Radio 1 Session, 1 Mar 1996)

(missing Jeff Mills Blues and I Can Take You To The Sun)

Dave's new FACT mix is an extremely pleasant listen but lol at the tracklisting http://www.factmag.com/2015/08/17/fact-mix-509-flying-saucer-attack/

haha, five disc CD changer on random style

haven't listened to amc for 25 years, might give it a whirl

Holy heck, an actual interview!

http://thequietus.com/articles/18662-dave-pearce-flying-saucer-attack-interview

Cool!

Having a hard time getting into the new one despite my best efforts. It sounds cool and all, but I guess I'm waiting for it to reveal itself beyond that.

good interview

Hey, I like it -- expanded reissue of In Search of Spaces on vinyl...

https://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/flying-saucer-attack-in-search-of-spaces-2xlp

But also streaming for free on Soundcloud

https://soundcloud.com/vhfrecords/sets/flying-saucer-attack-in-search-of-spaces-vhf145-2xlp

Also available on Bandcamp if you don't want the dead dinosaur version
https://flyingsaucerattack.bandcamp.com/album/in-search-of-spaces

Movietone 'Peel Sessions' (x3) release coming in the spring, according to their FB page.

Nice!