Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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basically, just agreeing with everything k-reg said. i like the martin parr comparison in particular. always been taken with the ruralism in aphex. richard.d.james album always seems like a cousin of nick drake's bryter layter.

but i'm glad the aphex/beck thing didn't happen. even aphex couldn't make beck good.

oh, and to answer the question, classic, obviously

gareth, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just wait until Robin gets ahold of that "provincial backwaters" thing that K-Reg said.

Patrick, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah? So? I've met K-reg and I could tell instantly he meant it in good spirit. It's the sarcastic mockery of certain other contributors that I can't take. I'm quite happy being in a geographical backwater as long as I'm not in a cultural one.

The Parr comparison applies for sure, but not as explicitly as it does with BoC's "Concourse" and "M9" (but then how could it?).

Aphex is classic, of course. I actually used to see him as a model for making a virtue of geographical isolation as a means of artistically refining yourself, so it's appropriate that K-reg said that. I think "Richard D. James Album" is his best work, as well, whereas FWIW I think "Bryter Layter" is Drake's weakest.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three months pass...
If Richard D. James doesn't impress you, Ludo, then who the hell does??????!!!!

Sam Garcia, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
Apropos of nothing: "Audax Powder" on the Polygon Window's Surfing On Sine Waves: The windows are down, I'm going to pick up my baby, my paycheck is still warm and I've had 7 gimlets. And we live inside Tron.

Sasha Frere-Jones (Sasha Frere-Jones), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

Fair enough, Autechre and Plaid are more focused in their visions and make arguably better music, but they would be nothing, absolutely nothing without Aphex. Aphex is a starting point, if you like his complexity, then get into Autechre; is maniacal evilness, listen to Boards of Canada; for his melodic brilliance, Plaid are highly recommended. But it is always worth listening to and revering RDJ as the pioneering force behind this music.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 12 May 2003 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

This is interesting because I have been obsessed with "electronic" music since I was about 10 years old but then I stopped listening to it for years. I thought I'd get back into it by seeking out the guy everyone was talking about, The Aphex Twin. So a few years back I bought "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" - listened to it a few times and thought, "blah". I found it totally bland and uninteresting and it wasn't doing anything I hadn't heard hundred times before. But I am willing to give the guy another go because I think he must have talent for people to be so fanatical about him.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 10:56 (twenty years ago) link

I think this thread has my first evah post on ILX (I think my opinions on eelctronic have changed quite a bit since then).

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (twenty years ago) link

neither classic nor dud - just hugely overrated.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

russ t, Monday, 12 May 2003 11:06 (twenty years ago) link

great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/b/banks/lg6.jpg

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i hadn't actually listened to the tuss before. rushup edge slaps

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

It does! I may have given it more spins than Druqks.

pomenitul, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

Listening to The Tuss now, it's amusing that there was even a question whether it was RDJ.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link

i like most of his singles and collections but i just can not get into much of the album material for some reason and i like his caustic window and polygon window material but not much of the afx material!

xzanfar, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

The Tuss is really really good

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

I never really got into the Analords or the Soundcloud dump. I'm not sure if it's the music itself or just the sheer amount of it. Maybe I should just admit I prefer his digital stuff and that the later attempts to re-embrace analogue don't move me much.

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

some parts of analord are better than others but the better parts are transcendent cf. "fenixfunk 5"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

I think analord is pretty consistent overall, it’s fun listening to them in order

brimstead, Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

i love "where's your girlfriend" so much

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link

yeah was pretty stunned that one didn't make the CD

frogbs, Thursday, 3 December 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Woot! Now that we’re facing an insurrection, an impeachment and an inauguration (hopefully), it’s time to indulge in some hardcore Drukqs!

Drukqs — The id to the ego of The Richard D James Album. Equal parts exhilarating and exhausting, Drukqs is Richard’s White Album, McCartney and Lovesexy wrapped into one — a sprawling creative whirlwind that rejects the fruits of mass celebrity for the indulgence of complete artistic freedom. Far from an hour and forty minutes of alternating drum and bass and MIDI-enabled John Cage homages its first several tracks suggests, this is almost certainly the most diverse release in his catalogue outside of the Soundcloud dump (of which this is certainly a forbear), with plaintive proper piano compositions, trip hop entrails, traces of music concrete, a gentle harmonium ditty, and a doting 28th birthday voicemail from his mum and dad for good measure. Continuing to delight in giving his audience aural whiplash, he sandwiches arguably his most epic drill n’ bass composition (the 8.5’ Mt. Saint Michael + Saint Michaels Mount), between his most conventionally “pretty” track (Avril 14th) and would-be “serious composition,” Gwarek2 which sounds like the quieter moments of Morton Subotnick’s The Wild Bull. Throughout there’s smatterings of exceptional, sly writing, with Bbydhyonchord his most “beautiful piece” since Flim and Ziggomatic 17 concluding with one of his most winsome digital melodies. Meltphace 6 features some of his best FM textures and the kind of zig-zag structures he would return to a dozen years later with Syro while Taking Control is one of his last great digital sample-fiestas. He didn’t care because we did? I don’t care but you still do? Yeah.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link

Lovely post NTI

Still enjoying/rediscovering this album now that I've sorted the Bangers and the chillers out from each other

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Apparently Aphex Twin sent a tape to Jeff Mills and Mike Banks. On the tape was the first Analogue Bubblebath. They passed on signing him to UR. Jeff sounds a little regretful about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K0tVVnXfn4

lukas, Sunday, 25 April 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

think it lost the timecode, it's twenty minutes in

lukas, Sunday, 25 April 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

The way I've ripped Drukqs to my server means it plays disc 2 track 1, disc 1 track 1, disc 2 track 2, disc 1 track 2, etc etc etc, mashing the two discs together.

I don't know whether I should solve this or not. Probably not. It's not like it flowed at all.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 26 April 2021 07:54 (two years ago) link

There's stuff on here that's absolutely as good as the best he ever did, it's just dumped together in a way that's difficult for most people to parse, seemingly.

Richard D James album is the one I go back to most often, the one I'd take with me to a desert island. It's got concision and gestalt.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 26 April 2021 07:56 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

we're sure it's not just james with fx?

When asked whether she’s a fan of his music, Julie said:

Very much. Not all of it.

same here

Malibu Cheer Chants Forensics (morrisp), Thursday, 5 August 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

lols from the comment section:

"Her best work is Selected Environmental Writings 87-93"

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 5 August 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Something is happening on August 18

https://190823.co.uk/

StanM, Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

19th

Field Day returns to Victoria Park on that day.

kraudive, Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

I only had to type 1 number and still managed a typo

StanM, Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

I don’t know who Ludo is but what is up with people who sign their comments.

- Moka

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 January 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

Field Day indeed

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 09:37 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

So is Alberto Balsalm his most famous track at this point, what with all the memes?

*farts* wow I had no idea that’s actually kinda funny!

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link

Better than some “we made old person listen to ventolin, you won’t believe their reactions!!”

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link


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