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The only thing I can say that hasn't been said is "The Anglo-Saxons" is the funniest song I've evah heard. John, play Indiana sometime.

Adam A. (Keiko), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was introduced to The Mountain Goats by a hipster kid in Tennessee who told me, "He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not... but some really good stuff anyway. I saw him play at a small club in Knoxville and enjoyed the show, but I was really sold when I happened across "Color in Your Cheeks" on a college station and couldn't get it out of my head for days.

Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, his periodical Last Plane to Jakarta (lastplanetojakarta.com) is a blast. It's one of the rare 'zines that's actually convinced me to buy CDs I've never heard of, just because his reviews are so impassioned.

Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

I Like "Cubs In Five","Orange Ball of Peace", the cover of "The Sign" and that 7" with Alstair Galbraith.

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

There must be a misprint, John, cause it doesn't say that you're coming back to Dublin, and YOU MUST COME BACK TO DUBLIN.

Search: yes

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

there's an L.A. show (finally!) on February 28th

yay! where? also do a reminder HYPE thread the week before if possible...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

John is nice guy and I only heard Talahasse once...but...ugh...ummm...

there's a whole lot of similes that connect romance to terrorism-kinda stuff but I don't recall any account of actual incidents that would explain why the relationship is LIKE terrorism. I'd kinda like to hear "you shot my cat, you bastard" next to "oh, you are like someone making a bomb" cuz it can kinda sound like zeitgeist exploitation. but the uptempo drummer on that one track was great idea! And I really usually listen to an album at least twice before talkin' about it, but it seems an opportune to bring it up (and it would look weird if everybody was ravin' wildly).

jesus, I gotta go die now. sorry. this wasn't easy for me, folks, so go easy on the flamebacks.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Anybody flames you Anthony I got yer back :-)

(i.e. don't be sorry for heaven's sake we're all friends here)

In re: "a lot of terrorism similes" I must defend myself howevah: that's just one song as far as I know. And now I should stop reading this thread as it is in poor form indeed to participate in a discussion of one's own writing/music/whatevah

(quickly answering questions before scramming: I really want to go back to Dublin but there just won't be time which makes me really sad because I love Dublin a whole lot, no plans for any pre-Zopilote Machine reissues, hoping to come to Portland sometime this year, and the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh, and that's actually all I've heard. and that extra glenns leonard cohen cover. so don't take this as a "I've heard your work and I say nay! review." I'm damn ign'nt re: body of work but the zeitgeist thing was buggin' me.

I will give another listen and see if I have the same reaction.

Thanks for being a good sport. Whew!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Like Lou Reed's New York done right but that doesn't mean I find time to listen that often. "Going to Georgia" is heartrending spectacular for sure though.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nadgers. Road Trip it is, then.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

The best-of-Mountain-Goats CD-R I made for a friend a few months ago goes:

1. Cubs in Five
2. Family Happiness
3. The Fall of the Star High School Running Back
4. Going to Port Washington
5. Going to Alaska
6. Going to Marrakesh
7. Golden Boy
8. No Children
9. Billy the Kid’s Dream of the Magic Slippers
10. Itzcuintli-Totzli Days
11. Neon Orange Glimmer Song
12. Anti-Music Song
13. Sept. 19 Triple X Love! Love!
14. No, I Can’t
15. Orange Ball of Hate
16. Are You Cleaning Off the Stone?
17. Standard Bitter Love Song #4
18. Standard Bitter Love Song #8
19. Love Cuts the Strings
20. Seed Song
21. Water Song
22. The Window Song
23. Jam Eater Blues
24. Two Thousand Seasons
25. The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton
26. The Sign

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really love All Hail West Texas!, The Coroner's Gambit and Zopilote Machine and like most of the others. I get really into them (him, whatever) and listen to nothing else for weeks, then not listen for quite a while.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

"He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not...

...and maybe yes. Though keep in mind my extremely non-canonical vision of Mr. Dylan. ;-)

the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons

Yes it is. The funniest of which will be me spraying the crowd with whipped cream and silly string before Tor-Twah take the stage to forcibly loosen them up and make them laugh. Then I'll do the same to the band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

You can hear an interview (including, I think, his cover of "The Sign") here:

http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_mgoats.shtml

just this guy you know, Friday, 17 January 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like the songs on All Hail West Texas a lot, but the sound quality is so shitty (I know, there's an aesthetic at work there) that I can't play any of it on the radio (there's an aesthetic there TOO), and that makes me mad.
How's the sound on the other stuff?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dude, Tortoise doesn't need Darnielle to laugh, that's the reason they had Kevin Drumm open for them on their last tour!

I have no further contribution to make to this thread.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tortoise fans can laugh? They must have learned from all the derisive snickering I direct towards 'em.

JS Williams (js williams), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Naw they hired him so they could laugh. They could care less whether their fans do or not.

Okay, I'm swearing off this thread before I "bring the negativity" to Darnielle LoveFest '03.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

At the risk of embarrassing myself in front of the man himself, pretty much every release has great moments, & there's a lot of them. Guess I tend to lean towards the early (_Hot Garden Stomp_, _Hound Dog Chronicles_) & late (_Full Force..._, _Coroners..._) periods.

Live it's a lot of fun (even when kicked off stage & forced to play on the pavement outside the venue). Can't wait till the forthcoming UK gigs & SxSW show, 'cos it's been a long time.

Enough already.

Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wow, Mountain Goats John here, never knew.

Loved your cover of "I saw the Sign"

David Allen, Friday, 17 January 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

i feel dumb trying to post to this thread when mr d himself is around, but here goes all the same...

horace, mostly similar, but the newest album "tallahassee" has a much more polished full band and studio production, and there are surely songs on there that you could play on the radio. john peel gets away with it, anyway, but that may not seem any guarantee of radio-friendly production. (i wasn't sure i liked it as much as the other albums i have at first but it's really grown on me.)

i say YES to "cubs in five" and "best ever death metal band out of denton" and i note that "anti-music song" is on that best-of cdr and that i kind of like it myself and never thought it implied any real dislike of morrissey, whom i quite like, on john's part. i only have a few of the albums and i can't really pick a favourite out of them, they're all good.

, Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

That really would be the best thing that could ever happen to a Tortoise fan.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I only have one Moutain Goats song but I like it a lot. "The Last Day of Jimi Hendrix' Life" on a 'zine 7-inch. You keep waiting for some revelation but it turns out on that day all Jimi did was drink some water & hang around. I love that. I need to get some Mountain Goats, anyway.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

I HAVE A VISION. I thank the Holy Prophet Dan for showing the way and Nicole for the encouragement.

[Likely enough I will simply do the honorable thing and leave after the Goats take their bow, thus beating the traffic -- assuming whoever I'm with wants to leave as well.]

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aww, I would be happy to ship you the Faygo -- I think it is a worthy project.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

raggy 2 dope

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

unless you pronounce it "Ra-jay", Ned.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nope. It's Irish not French, so you got it right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 January 2003 04:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

saw them live in london at the ICA. I enjoyed it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

i hadn't realized how well known he was until this new album came out and there's reviews everywhere (fairly good write up in todays london times,for example,which suggests that the mountain goats could be this years flaming lips,in terms of crossover appeal)(a lot of people probably wouldn't see that as a compliment,but i was surprised that their profile was that high)
initially i heard of them and thought oh,that guy from ilx with that last plane to jakarta site has a band now?
i'm curious now,i must look into getting some of the stuff recommended upthread...

robin (robin), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Today's Times: The Mountain Goats: set to be this year's The Flaming Lips.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

my new fave band, as of two days ago! are any of the live shows floating around on soulseek worth getting?

toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like the flashing lights song a lot

liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

So are the Mountain Goats going to have to retire "Cubs In Five" now that the Tampa Bay Bucs have, indeed, made it all the way to January?

God, I hope not.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

CFBX 92.5 FM, 5 Watts
Kamloops, BC
Charts to January 31, 2003

3) Mountain Goats - Tallahassee (4AD)

Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

from norman records-

4AD are going exactly the same way as original, life affirmingly INDEPENDENT allies Mute by signing pretty hopeless bands. If The Mountain Goats are the new Pixies then that pig really DID just fly past the window. More up Clint's street are these and even he thinks they're a bit pants. The band's new CD, 'Tallahassee' is out this week. Supposedly their 12th album, previous efforts have been on little US indies, this 4AD debut is average alt-country tinged lo-fi strum rock. Some might find some nuggets of gold up in them thar mountains but all I found were some old Yak droppings. Gorgeous packaging like but the words 'polish' and 'turd' spring to mind (again)....

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 2 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

John: Play Portland. Come play Portland. There are a bunch of us planning on driving down for the upcoming SF show but, really, it would be nice to see you without driving 9 hours... So, in summation, come play Portland.

Please.

Thank you.

Also, if you play Portland, please play "Golden Boy", as it would mean a lot to my roommate/bandmate, who sings it to her godson to get him to go to sleep, and is anyway one of your absolute best songs, even better than "Fresh Berries For You".

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, and for the people wondering where to start: I say just go with All Hail West Texas! You'll love the first song and want to put it on a mix tape right away. Also there's a song on it called "Riches and Wonders" which will heart fall into your toes. And when the song is over, and you are a puddle of curious and hauting emotions on the floor, John will look up from the Panasonic and say, "Oh, you liked that one? Wait, let me play you this other song I just whipped off..." and then "The Mess Inside" will start playing and you will hate him for writing such beautiful songs and rubbing them in your face.

There. I am done being such a fanboy. Oh, except to note my friend's observation about how awkward it is to scream out "ABSOLUTE LITHOPS EFFECT!" as a concert request.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

MY favourite song of the ones i´ve heard yet is The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton and the cover of The sign have been on a lot of mixtapes.
I hope i don´t miss you when you play Sweden in like two weeks

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

don't worry keith - Phil only seems to like electronica and krautrock..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

actually I love the mountain goats records I have but the one song I heard fromt he new one sounded, worryingly, a bit like Live.

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 3 February 2003 01:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

What?! Any idea which song it was?

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 3 February 2003 08:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
sssshhhhh, I'm trying to whisper it so J0hn can't hear me...I got Tallahassee about a week ago (my first MG purchase), and I love it. I would ask for more reccommendations, but I'll just follow the advice upthread. I also started reading Last Plane To Jakarta after he linked to that great Comets On Fire piece about PAs in shopping malls. Class.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

I'm trying to whisper it so J0hn can't hear me

IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE WHOLE CLASS, MR. NORDIC?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

I love jOhn, but is it official I'm the only Ilxor who's actively admitted they're not really a big Mountain Goats fan yet?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

I really enjoy Last Plane to Jakarta, and I really enjoy Tallahassee. I need more mtn goats. More old stuff with tape hiss. Where can I gat some?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.3bos.com is one place with the three comps of hissy compilation, cassette, etc tracks.

jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

I love jOhn, but is it official I'm the only Ilxor who's actively admitted they're not really a big Mountain Goats fan yet?

i was a pretty big fan in high school with a couple tapes, an lp and a cd but i haven't had much of an urge to listen to any of it in at least four or five years and haven't heard anything since sweden or nothing for juice.

i still get a little thrill when i see j*hn's name come up on a thread though. feels like hollywood.

brian badword (badwords), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

A good read and the man himself is interviewed

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22745655/mountain-goats-no-children-tiktok

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 04:38 (two years ago) link

Go girl pic.twitter.com/kNA0a0lvIm

— c a i t l i n (@hello__caitlin) October 26, 2021

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 05:19 (two years ago) link

"no children" going viral on tik tok brings me so so so much joy

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 06:04 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Devil House is really remarkable. Absolutely is.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link

I've been assidously avoiding all reviews and publicity, today I discover I have to wait another two months for the ebook.

for 200 anyone can receive a dud nvidia (ledge), Sunday, 6 February 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Hi folks I interviewed @mountain_goats for @NewYorker https://t.co/p57BcrlZ3x

— Helen Rosner (@hels) April 24, 2022

dow, Sunday, 24 April 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

Keep pondering JD's comments in that interview on being in one's fifties. Also, my partner took that portrait!

bendy, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

Excellent interview.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

I’m over fifty. Being over fifty is miraculous. You get just a broader view on your previous iterations of yourself, and they all look like miserable failures. But I’m told that the next errand is to have pity on them. I don’t know about that. People think you should forgive them. I don’t expect to get there, but you at least get some perspective on your motivations. I think young people do practically everything out of fear, whether it’s fear of missing out, or fear of not becoming what you want to become, or fear of not getting away from what you want to get away from. If you keep working spiritually, you think, “Oh, wait, if I work and I’m able to provide for myself, what do I truly have to be afraid of?” Not so much. And, well, then you can approach something like freedom, I guess.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

(I'm not 50 just yet but this sounds like hope.)

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

It's accurate.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

New song!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lttMHEdpZM

cajunsunday, Thursday, 2 June 2022 06:45 (one year ago) link

That packs a wallop! Crossposted to the thread of cheesy eighties training montages.

peace, man, Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:51 (one year ago) link

New song, hell, new album:

https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/bleed-out

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:40 (one year ago) link

Extremely hype for this, what a fantastic cover as well

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

Super excited for this, and I have to say I love this little mysterious breadcrumb in the bandcamp credits:

Final punchline for “Bleed Out” graciously supplied by Peter Hughes in late-night writing session

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

Clearly this T-shirt is a necessity

This @mountain_goats t-shirt in Italian? Instant pre-order. https://t.co/1e5CkaptLj pic.twitter.com/aQvxrcAzmL

— Fondano 🤌 (@twinfountain) June 2, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

It's gonna get so dark for you, I'm gonna leave a mark on you.

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

This new one is so so so good.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

Loud too!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

Good and loud indeed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

keep misreading this every single time

Hurricane #Danielle Advisory 25: Resilient Danielle Strengthens a Little While Accelerating Toward the Northeast. Massive High Seas Area Extends Nearly 350 Miles From Danielle'S Eye. https://t.co/tW4KeGe9uJ

— National Hurricane Center (@NHC_Atlantic) September 7, 2022

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 08:59 (one year ago) link

Sonically at least, the new album could have been called Hurricane Darnielle.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

New album soon!

https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/jenny-from-thebes

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:46 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

rocked out to west texas tonight for the first time in years

"and the deathless love we swore to protect with our bodies is stumbling across it's bleak ending"

darnielle is probably the greatest ever at cramming syllables into a line without ever making them sound crammed in

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 13 October 2023 04:08 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Omg @ Fresh Tattoo

imago, Friday, 27 October 2023 13:23 (five months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Bless you Hard Times

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzTcZ05sioL/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

lethbridge-pfunkboy (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 26 November 2023 05:04 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

Mountain Goats, New P's , and Margaret Glaspy in August at big venue Wolf Trap , near DC. Wow .

curmudgeon, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:11 (four weeks ago) link


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