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I've just put on 'new york tendaberry' fr the first time since I bought it about a year and a half ago (on ian macdonald's recommendation). and wow. it's night-time here.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

ah, lovely

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

There's a tribute disk called Time and Love that I like too. Sobule, Jane Siberry, Phoebe Snow, Suzanne Vega, Roches, and more. I just recently re-discovered her and got a best-of (also called Time and Love The Essential Masters). I guess Eli and NY Tendaberry are next (and forget "surry" what's a tendaberry?)

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 05:33 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
The sun was setting over South London last night and my stereo was playing Nyro's version of "Up On The Roof" and it seemed so right and so damnably transcendent. Her final "roof" is like Gaudi's angel flying off from the top of the steeple.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I've just heard her for the first time last week, and she's wonderful. So far I prefer the Brill pop-stuff to the later, more singer-songwritery material, but it's all good.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i will never forgive ally mcbeal for ruining "wedding bell blues" for me.

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Where should a Todd Rundgren fan start with Laura Nyro albums, given his obsession with her back at the start of his solo career?

Lotta Continua (Damian), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

ELI

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

agreed

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I thank you.

I knew you'd make it good someday, but you knew it anyway (Damian), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

you really can't go wrong with any Nyro album, including the ones that got ignored in the 70's (Mother's Spiritual and Smile)...what an amazing track record...Christmas and the Beads of Sweat features, in addition to Alice Coltrane, the Muscle Shoals studio band (on side one)...'97 was a sad, sad year, seeing the loss of both Nyro and her #1 fan, Epic Soundtracks...(all of whose work should be sought out by lovers of both Nyro and early Todd Rundgren)...and yes, her final LP, Angel In The Dark, is every bit as bewitching as her earliest work...honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find an artist who spread such quality over 30 (plus/minus) years...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

you really can't go wrong with any Nyro album, including the ones that got ignored in the 70's (Mother's Spiritual and Smile)

mother's spiritual was '84. her other late '70s album was nested (which is worth owning for historical value, but you'll probably never listen to it).

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

it was all over when she moved to connecticut and started writing songs about "the trees."

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I dunno...Pulp wrote a song about "the trees" and it was very good indeed...(Scott Walker produced it!)

Laura Nyro wrote one of my favorite sexual metaphors, on "Farmer Joe"...("I can't wait for your cornfields, baby, to grow")

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

er, full title being "Once It Was Alright Now (Farmer Joe)"...ain't no way I'm gonna be wrong twice!

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i am quite fond of "gonna take a miracle", even though its all covers.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Whats the very first song (I think) on Nested, the one that has the line "Im a fucking mad scientist too..", thats a killer song.

Capt Trips, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Love her line at the begining of the song " buy and sell "

Cocaine and quiet beers, sweet candy and caramels.

Also love Jackie Mittoo covering " Stoned soul piccnic "

lurk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Laura's son:

http://www.myspace.com/giltakathoroughbred

Frogman Henry, Monday, 7 April 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

that's real class the way he has (Laura Nyro's son) in his display name. the bredders onroad must be really impressed with that!

I like his SSP, not bad really.

How on earth did you find this?

Saxby D. Elder, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

someone linked it on the facebook group.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 10 April 2008 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"MTV's Fat Boys" ??

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 10 April 2008 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

All of sudden, I've fallen in love with her. All I have is Gonna Take A Miracle and her version of The Bells is going to lull me to sleep tonight. I must find more of her records.

Jacob Sanders, Monday, 12 October 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

They're not hard to find! The Stoned Soul Picnic comp was my basic intro to Laura Nyro, but I've since purchased all of the studio albums. They all have something to recommend them, so consistent was her (sporadic) career.

henry s, Monday, 12 October 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I bought "Smile" a long time ago at a flea market, and didn't really get it on the few listens I gave it. I really should give Nyro another chance.

Maybe I'll look for that compilation

Duke, Monday, 12 October 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

gonna take a miracle is ACE

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

bette midler's induction speech was really nice
and her son the sensitive brooklyn tough was awesome!
never listened to her before
she's really great

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

Christmas and the Beads of Sweat is an all-time album for me.

NSFW Australia (seandalai), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

bette midler's induction speech was really nice
and her son the sensitive brooklyn tough was awesome!

Totally agree -- not a fan of Bette at all, but her point about Laura's courage was spot on. The performance following was good, too!

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

Never quite had a handle on where Laura's style came from. Just heard Fontella Bass' version of the Goffin/King song "Oh No, Not My Baby," though, and it doesn't sound unlike her. Maybe she's rooted a fair amount in Brill Building, etc.

timellison, Sunday, 13 January 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Her final "roof" is like Gaudi's angel flying off from the top of the steeple.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, April 5, 2006 12:25 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

i think about this often

Number None, Friday, 8 February 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

Hearing Eli for the first time

Blood roses (Ross), Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

And?

The Great Atomic Cat Power (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:20 (five years ago) link

I have so many versions of Eli, the basic CD, vinyl, SACD, the mono version, I wish I could hear it again for the first time.

henry s, Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:55 (five years ago) link

It’s the best shit I’ve heard ever

Blood roses (Ross), Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:18 (five years ago) link

Been listening to Billy Child's reworkings of Nyro songs, I found a record recently on Spotify called 'Map To The Treasure', it's mostly pretty great but the version of The Confession is bloody marvellous.

MaresNest, Saturday, 12 May 2018 10:22 (five years ago) link

Whats the very first song (I think) on Nested, the one that has the line "Im a fucking mad scientist too..", thats a killer song.

I never even knew this record existed until this thread just popped up in my feed. Agreed, great song, sounds completely consistent with her classic era.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

Also, I tell you, “Brown Earth,” w the Muscle Shoals band. Todd Rundgren knew what was up.

Christmas and the Beads of Sweat is so great. As intense and personal as New York Tendaberry is, my favorite Laura is when it sounds like the world’s greatest soul band is trying to keep up with her shifting meters, keys and melodies. It’s like these songs could go anywhere.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

Nested is really great, I've been listening to that a lot lately. Her "settling down" records seem to split the pundits, but I love them all. Walk The Dog & Light the Light is one of the few albums Gary Katz produced outside of Steely Dan, Smile and Mother's Spiritual are both excellent and don't get me started on the posthumous Angel in the Dark. All these records are gorgeous, perfect listening for this time of year. I only wish her Bottom Line live set would be either reissued or show up on streaming services.

henry s, Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

A friend gave me a vinyl copy of Gonna Take a Miracle a few weeks ago (I already had a home-burned CD, so I was familiar with the album). This time, I was struck by its strong similarity to The Ballad of Todd Rundgren, which I had been in the midst of playing non-stop in the car for a few days. Found this quote when I subsequently did a little reading on Nyro: "Todd Rundgren stated that once he heard her, he 'stopped writing songs like the Who and started writing songs like Laura.'"

As impressed as I was with my discerning ear, the similarity was hard to miss.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link

last year curmudgeon and I thought that Nicole Atkins' Goodnight Rhonda Lee sounded a bit like 60s Nyro (if the latter had ever responded musically to Dusty In Memphis, I further thought, although would Nyro or Springfield take after-midnight thinking and drinking quite this far, musically speaking?)
https://nicoleatkins.bandcamp.com/

dow, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

yeah the first time i heard Eli i was all "dammit todd!"

brimstead, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

Lol ^^^

Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

See, I hear her exactly the opposite way. I’m like, “Right on, Todd.” The guy has exquisite taste and she’s the best.

Did he and Laura have a relationship around that time? Or am I imagining things that should’ve been?

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 May 2018 12:24 (five years ago) link

Not sure there was ever anything romantic between the two, but he was clearly smitten, as his song "Laura" suggests. Nyro in turn asked Todd to be her band leader but he had to say no because he was still in the Nazz (this was around 1970.) Can you imagine what could have been? He later went on to produce and play on some of the Mother's Spiritual tracks, but apparently most of his suggestions were rejected by Nyro, a habit she had when dealing with producers, so maybe that wouldn't have been the dream team it sounds like. (Todd thought the album needed a hit, that the songs were about nothing more than trees and wind, and that it sounded like "mom" music. This was decades before "dad rock" became a thing.)

henry s, Friday, 18 May 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

TR on LN…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZN_uL-z0A

Bloody Snail, Saturday, 19 May 2018 08:40 (five years ago) link

That was awesome. The “gypsy with long, curled fingernails” image was...not surprising exactly but not something I’d quite anticipated either.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Listened to NYT years ago and couldn't really click but the tomcat song blew my mind. The way she shrieks on that is just stunning.

Too many years later I get Eli and it's all clicking and I realize she's so much more than a great singer. I need to return to NYT but I also want to get much further and it seems like most people drop off after a few albums. Nice to see Henry bigging up her later albums because I really want to get them eventually.

Nyro threads here are sadly short and even with the Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame entry, she seems to still be due a ton of respect. I have noticed some female artists getting their due recently and here's hoping that Nyro will get hers soon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

There's also surprisingly little live footage of her on YouTube. This one, though, is pretty great. No sure where she goes between 5:52 and 5:56, but that look in her eyes gets me very time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUiVPCfJqAo

henry s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

I wouldn't have noticed if they did but Mojo and Uncut really should have tried her as a cover feature.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

I was a faithful reader of both, I think Uncut did a feature on NYT as a "lost classic" but that's about it. Wax Poetics had a nice long feature on Laura in their Blue-Eyed Soul issue (the one w/ Daryl Hall on the cover) a few years back.

henry s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

An early 90s CD copy of Christmas cost me 20 pounds, the late 00s versions were way too expensive. Didn't expect this to be a rare CD.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 May 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

Same with the Bottom Line live CD, even used copies go for for a hundred bucks.

Just listened to Christmas yesterday. FUN FACT: When I first developed my particular form of tinnitus, I noticed there was a certain piano chord on "Brown Earth" that would nullify the ringing, just for a second. Was the strangest sensation. Doesn't work anymore, probably because I've adjusted ("habituated", in med speak) to the condition.

henry s, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 03:39 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I was a faithful reader of both, I think Uncut did a feature on NYT as a "lost classic" but that's about it. Wax Poetics had a nice long feature on Laura in their Blue-Eyed Soul issue (the one w/ Daryl Hall on the cover) a few years back.

If memory serves that was an Ian MacDonald writeup of a reissue. Great piece but just a feature review.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 7 July 2019 04:06 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Have been listening nonstop to the collaboration with Labelle.

that's not my post, Sunday, 21 March 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link

I've heard her first four but not made it to anything later, how do you find it compares? Beyond being covers, of course.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 21 March 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link

The one with Labelle is all about the incredible vocals. It’s got more straightforward song structures and more simple instrumentation (heavy on the bass and drums). But if Motown and girl group tunes aren’t your thing, well, it might not work.

that's not my post, Sunday, 21 March 2021 05:42 (three years ago) link

It's one of the best of those 'dollar bin' or flea market records that you see everywhere.
I've had several copies of Gonna Take a Miracle and never spent more than $2 on any of them.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 March 2021 05:58 (three years ago) link

I've bought a bunch of em to give people over the years.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 March 2021 06:02 (three years ago) link

Everyone should have it. It's too good a record not to buy for a dollar.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 March 2021 06:04 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I kind of drift away in the middle of Christmas And The Beads Of Sweat but the first track and the last few are fantastic.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 8 April 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

‘Upstairs By A Chinese Lamp’ is fantastic...Alice Coltrane and Laura Nyro...can you imagine a collab between those two

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Thursday, 8 April 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link

Plenty of photos out there of her in the studio with Miles Davis, though I don't think the sessions produced anything.

henry s, Thursday, 8 April 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

The Nyro biography I read said that Miles was just visiting the studio.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 April 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link

I think Christmas and the Beads of Sweat is amazing all the way through, kind of the apotheosis of the progressive Brill Building mysticism of her early albums. Also side one concludes with the definitive version of "Up On the Roof," Carole King's anthem for urban introverts and on some days my favorite song of all time

J. Sam, Friday, 9 April 2021 00:26 (three years ago) link

I thought the story was that she asked him to play something on one track and he declined by saying “you already played it.”

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 April 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

You're right, but there was never a serious session.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 April 2021 00:44 (three years ago) link

Maybe he meant that she'd already produced a Milesian vibe vocally---thinking of the way her phrasing is recorded on, say, "Billy's Blues."

dow, Friday, 9 April 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link

That's on the only LP of hers I ever owned, The First Songs: what a sound, what singing, what writing, arranging (maybe a demo, but it works, like very early Joni Mitchell).

dow, Friday, 9 April 2021 01:10 (three years ago) link

This bit of "Brown Earth" I adore. Such beautiful singing.

"Give with your heart and love will come to you
Kids come in all shapes and colors
To the cool morning dew"

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 9 April 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Article on Laura Nyro ahead of the release of American Dreamer, a box set containing her first seven albums and an eighth disc of rarities and live tracks.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jul/27/laura-nyro-the-phenomenal-singers-singer-the-60s-overlooked

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 08:13 (two years ago) link

Hadn't heard about that! But posted this on Rolling Reissues:

From Goldmine:

LOS ANGELES, Calif. — Omnivore Recordings will release two sets of rare Laura Nyro music over the next few months: Trees of the Ages: Laura Nyro Live in Japan and the never-before-issued Go Find the Moon: The Audition Tape. Both will be available on CD and Digital, with Go Find the Moon also available on vinyl (a 45-rpm LP). Each was restored and mastered by Grammy®-winner Michael Graves and produced for release by Grammy®-winner Cheryl Pawelski and George Gilbert with the approval of the Laura Nyro Trust.

https://www.goldminemag.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_602/MTgxMjY0NjI0NzQwNDc2MjY0/go-find-the-moon.webp

Go Find the Moon: The Audition Tape, scheduled for September 10, [contains the proto singer-songwriter’s previously unissued 1966 audition.

https://www.goldminemag.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_602/MTgxMjY0NjI0NzQwNTQxODAw/tree-of-ages.webp

Tree of Ages: Laura Nyro Live in Japan, previously available only in Japan, due out July 16.

A member of both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Songwriters Hall of Fame, Laura Nyro not only wrote songs that became hits for artists like 5th Dimension, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Three Dog Night, and Barbra Streisand, but has been cited as a major influence by artists as varied as Kate Bush, Elton John, Elvis Costello, Cyndi Lauper, Todd Rundgren, Broadway composer Stephen Schwartz (Godspell, Wicked), and countless others. Born in the Bronx in 1947, she left us far too soon, at age 49 following a bout with ovarian cancer.

She recorded ten of her own studio albums (one released posthumously), but a live performance from Nyro was always a particularly special event.

Originally issued only in Japan as Live in Japan in 2003, the 16 tracks recorded at Kintetsu Hall, plus five recorded at On Air West return as Trees of the Ages: Laura Nyro Live in Japan, to be released July 16, 2021.

The set runs the gamut of her career, from Nyro-penned hits including “And When I Die,” “Wedding Bell Blues,” and “Save the Country,” to covers of Bacharach/David, Smokey Robinson, and Phil Spector classics. It is an essential document of her historic February 1994 visit to Japan. With Nyro on piano and vocals, augmented by the harmonies by Diane Wilson, Dian Sorrell, Diane Garisto, the performances are sublime.

The reissue packaging contains updated artwork and new liner notes from author and musician John Kruth. Looking and sounding incredible, this essential addition to Nyro’s discography is available worldwide for the first time. Trees of the Ages: Laura Nyro Live in Japan cements the legacy of an incomparable artist.

* * *

In the summer of 1966, an 18-year-old Laura Nyro auditioned for Milt Okun, one of the most respected music producers of the day, and Artie Mogull, a noted A&R man. After the session, these eventual music business legends were so blown away that Mogull became her manager, and Okun signed on to produce her debut record, More Than Just a Discovery. The first song she performed, “And When I Die,” became the opening track on Peter, Paul and Mary’s hit album, The Peter, Paul and Mary Album, and achieved even bigger success with the cover by Blood, Sweat, & Tears, which reached #2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1969. Quite a song with which to begin an audition!

Nyro certainly wrote other future smashes delivered to the charts by artists like Three Dog Night (“Eli’s Coming”), the 5th Dimension (“Stoned Soul Picnic,” “Save the Country,” and “Wedding Bell Blues”), Barbra Streisand (“Stoney End”), and more. But it was Nyro’s heart, soul, songwriting brilliance and magnificent vocal talent that drove music fans to discover her own work.

Go Find the Moon: The Audition Tape, due out September 10, 2021, puts the listener in the room at the very beginning of Nyro’s legendary career. Available now for the first time, it includes “And When I Die” as well as songs she never officially released, and her own versions of classics, all delivered with a deft and distinctive touch.

As journalist Jim Farber writes in the liners: “Here, Laura Nyro led the way with a performance that captured an artist who, however young, was, at root, already fully formed.”

Omnivore will offer a special bundle of the LP Go Find The Moon: The Audition Tape with a numbered litho print of the cover limited to 200.

Track listings:

Trees of the Ages: Laura Nyro Live in Japan

1. Dedicated to the One I Love

2. Ooh Baby Baby

3. Woman of the World

4. Louise’s Church

5. Lite a Flame (The Animal Rights Song)

6. Walk the Dog & Light the Light (Song of the Road)

7. The Japanese Restaurant Song

8. And When I Die

9. To a Child

10. The Descent of Luna Rose

11. Wild World

12. Save the Country

13. Wedding Bell Blues

14. Trees of the Ages/Emmie

15. Walk on By

16. Let It Be Me

17. Oh Yeah Maybe Baby (The Heebie Jeebies)

18. Wind

19. Broken Rainbow

20. My Innocence/Sophia

21. Art of Love

Go Find The Moon: The Audition Tapeeion

1. And When I Die

2. Lazy Susan (False Start)

3. Enough of You

4. In and Out

5. Go Find the Moon

6. Luckie/Studio Talk

7. When Sunny Gets Blue (Fragment)/Kansas City (Fragment)/I Only Want to Be With You

8. Lazy Susan

dow, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTJ30UL5ms

dow, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link

Has there never been a proper Nyro documentary? I can find references online to people planning to make one, but it doesn't appear that it's ever happened. Seems surprising, though I guess access to material and cooperation from the estate could be obstacles.

four months pass...

Love her line at the begining of the song " buy and sell "
Cocaine and quiet beers, sweet candy and caramels.

The lyrics of this entire song are astonishing by any standard, even more so for an 18-year-old woman:

Life turns like the endless sea
death tolls like a vesper bell
children laugh and lovers dream
on a street called buy and sell

Ladies dress calico style
beware your heart
when they smile
and their men walk shamelessly
aimlessly by
cinders in the daylight
junkyards in the sky

J. Sam, Thursday, 2 December 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link


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