2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

HRC on teh gays.

Huckabee: Able to see his dick since 2007!

In terms of costs, this is the image you want to keep in mind:

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/85xx/doc8565/Figure1-3.gif

That shows what's going to happen to Medicare/Medicaid costs as time goes on. If they continue growing at the same rate they have been (i.e. 2.5%), then they're going to take up 20% of GDP by 2050. ZOINKS.

Context here:

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/85xx/doc8565/Chapter1.5.1.shtml

i kinda feel slighted that the most prominent queer pundit out there right now is andrew sullivan.

Since 2008, Proud to be an official Dicklist member!

huckabee needs his own cable news show so we can watch him slowly fatten up again

M Bison, I agree with you abt Clinton's 'foolhardy assumptions'. I just don't think those mistakes have much to do with her 'managerial acuity' or whatever. Basically all the mistakes tell us is that she's not totally crushing Obama. Doesn't 'planning past Super Tuesday' just mean 'winning past Super Tuesday'? I don't know, I'm rambling, but I think most of the narratives about Hillary dropping the ball are much more something constructed by the press than anything really insightful. That said, I hope she's done.

i kinda feel slighted that the most prominent queer pundit out there right now is andrew sullivan.

Don't forget Morbs.

ban g00blar

In terms of negotiations, giving insurance companies tax breaks or deregulation would kidna defeat the purpose, unless I'm misunderstanding your point. They're going to be more regulated, if anything. The idea is to basically bring them in and say "everyone in the goddamn country agrees that you're screwing us over, so this is what's going to happen." The obstacle is more going to be hospitals and medical professionals, I suspect, who are all against it because it'll lower their salaries.

i mean, can i get a source on queer interests in politics without being subjected to this hack's 7,285 virulent anti-hillary posts?

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haha, i didn't forget morbs but sadly he is not nearly as prominent a political commentator as he should be.

I just saw that Obama commercial linked on the other thread. It is massively dope.

i just heard james carvelle say "senator obama" but it sounded like "santo bama"

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Are The Clintons Haters? Jan 14th @ 1:49 AM

James Carvelle could make "activist judges" sound like "santo bama".

hillary is def a hater

i just heard james carvelle say "senator obama" but it sounded like "santo bama"

LOL

lol >>> http://tinyurl.com/3ch8wj

thanking u

"His name rhymes with the word Iraq. His second name also does not need to comment, but Obama surname only one consonant differs from the embodiment of evil names (meaning Osama bin Laden. - "Newspaper. Ru") "- notes columnist The Daily Reveille.

Depraved, however, to wound that Obama - Half (his father - black, the mother - white). Therefore, there is no guarantee observers say that black voters will support him, not Hillary Clinton, wife of the ex-president, whose American "blacks" just adore.

Obamy

Can't wait until the weather is Obamy outside my office.

what about Aravosis? (AmericaBlog)

In terms of negotiations, giving insurance companies tax breaks or deregulation would kidna defeat the purpose, unless I'm misunderstanding your point. They're going to be more regulated, if anything. The idea is to basically bring them in and say "everyone in the goddamn country agrees that you're screwing us over, so this is what's going to happen."

I don't think that's the idea at all. That kind of draconian, oppositional, top-down imposition of a system would never fly in the free-market U.S., and I can't imagine either candidate trying it. Instead, I imagine that insurance co's and the gov't will work together to come up with agreeable rates and situational (symptom-based) response/cost plans. The companies involved will want certain guarantees and concessions, though expanded enrollment will be sizeable perk right off the bat. The more people the gov't can promise, the better their leverage - especially if the new heads aren't high-riskers who couldn't get insurance any other way.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080212/pl_afp/usvoteobamajapan

Murakami noted that Barack Obama's birthday, August 4, happens to be "Chopsticks Day" in the city.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20080212/capt.sge.iku58.120208071510.photo00.photo.default-421x512.jpg?x=283&y=345&sig=mNl7zDxUxGQkZ1r4fBkp_g--
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why tf is julian bond trying to get the dems to seat MI and FL???

http://www.mccainblogette.com/docs/postings/020708/20.jpg

shockingly, more Americans know of John Glenn's NASA career than his Senate career, which ended roughly co-terminously

well if thats not photoshop fodder

http://www.mccainblogette.com/docs/playlist/

Here is the third addition to our growing collection of Blogette Playlists. This list consists of songs by some artists who get me moving in the morning ("Scissor Sisters"), pick-me-up in the afternoon ("Clap Your Hands Say Yeah"), energize me for a night out on the town ("Goldfrapp") and help me fall asleep at night ("Jimi Hendrix"). I hope everyone enjoys these songs as much as I do.

P.S. "Seu Jorge" is a genius.

john glens eyes are the size of grains of rice

almost as good as romney's ad exec son being a fan of elliot lipp and cinematic orchestra

"His name rhymes with the word Iraq. His second name also does not need to comment, but Obama surname only one consonant differs from the embodiment of evil names (meaning Osama bin Laden. - "Newspaper. Ru") "- notes columnist The Daily Reveille.

This is the funniest thing I've read today. Link plz.

(Okay, that was before I saw the "Hanna Montana Fans Love McCain" poster. That is now the funniest thing I've seen today.)

lolol >>> http://tinyurl.com/3ch8wj

too bad hannah montana fans can't vote

almost as good as romney's ad exec son being a fan of elliot lipp and cinematic orchestra

almost as good as using indie-anything as any sort of litmus test

who's talking about litmus tests? i think its funny

Craig Romney's Friend Space
Craig Romney has 566 friends.

Trunkster

Peter Bjorn And John

The Cinematic Orchestra

M. Ward

Loney, Dear

of Montreal

The National

Jim Noir

Andrew Bird

Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings

Sigur Ros

Dntel

The Bees

ELIOT LIPP

"Seu Jorge"

<i>worth repeating

the whole clintons have baggage / she's polarizing / etc. issue may not be "fair," but it wasn't invented for election season. it's just a fact!</i>

I'm still amazed that so many democrats could be unconcerned with or unaware of this aspect of Clinton as a candidate.

It could also be really painful to have these 90s partisan media-narratives brought back and the culture war debated indirectly around her persona. I can't see ever voting for McCain but the Dems might deserve the lose the GE on principal if they choose to reignite the Clintons conflict with the "attack machine."

SUSA has Clinton up 17 in OH, her lead due entirely to women - http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/12/surveyusa_clinton_maintains_doubledigit_lead_in_ohio.html

*sigh*

how many of those women are voting for Hillary because of what she symbolizes, I wonder

Shakey Mo Kristol

I was making a joke about daria's complaints about Obama/symbolism on one of the other threads deej

(btw there are few people I loathe more than Kristol, who reminds me of the prototypical smug rich Jewish kid at the bar mitzvahs I attended as a child)

I think typical white people enjoy being offended about things.

is it just me or is the clinton campaign's behavior in this campaign growing more disingenuous, dishonest, and craven by the day? and it seems to be working. i'm really depressed.

(sorry for not being too sophisticated about this, but i'm so busy with work that i can only stick me head out and read a bit of news on occasion.)

i say this as someone who was by no means a clinton-hater in the past.

thats pretty much the consensus of this thread

I think for every person genuinely offended by "God Damn America" there are five more people who are just sort of startled by it and not really offended but are worried that if they don't act offended their co-workers will think they're not patriotic enough.

the scary thing about the wright flap is that in the wake of 9-11, bizarro nationalism created a climate of fear and self-censorship lest anyone be branded unpatriotic. six years of royal executive fuck-ups later it's acceptable (if not encouraged) in most quarters to mock the head of state, ruling class etc. but god forbid you implicate the country itself (in practical terms the voters who elected these buffoons but in bizarro nationalistic terms George Washington, Gen. Patton, Elvis, det. john mcclane etc.) the fear mongers immediately return to center stage with their brand and everyone cowers, even piling on the guilty party so their own patriotism won't be questioned.

I thought after Iraq and a laundry list of other blemishes we could handle an open/honest discussion about America's place in the world and God's heart, but apparently the architects of this rah-rah culture worked some impressive voodoo shit on us back then that will continue to rear its ugly head from time to time.

or what hurting said.

i generally believe the feds did sell crack to the inner city kids

the scary thing about the wright flap is that in the wake of 9-11, bizarro nationalism created a climate of fear and self-censorship lest anyone be branded unpatriotic.

I think America was pretty much always like this.

yep xp

oh yeah like most countries, but it became particularly toxic and powerful afterwards.

i generally believe the feds did sell crack to the inner city kids

I thought this was related one of the things that John Kerry dug up around '85 or so, with the Iran-Contra funding and drug-running to the U.S. etc.

huckabee amazingly honest, clear-headed and forgiving: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/huckabee-defend.html

maybe he can replace McCain as the batshit conservative it's ok for liberals to like.

That's fine with me if he brings some inclusiveness and optimism and forgiveness and tolerance to the table.

He also wants to bring guns and creationism, so I'm not totally onboard.

we have posted the huckabee thing like five times already

i generally believe the feds did sell crack to the inner city kids

what GS level was that job?

(sorry about the repost, missed some hidden messages)

like I've said before, the news cycle on this thread is about an hour

I think typical white people enjoy being offended about things.

you can take my capacity for hypocritical phony outrage when you pry it from my cold dead frontal cortex.

stuff white people like

i didn't get a ticket for tomorrow's rally, but i did get to see the obama caravan roll into downtown tonight. 5-0 was everywhere, about 3 dozen motorbike cops. I was on my bike and stopped as they roared by me. I was the only guy on the street at the time, and I waved. I think I saw him on his phone.

in other news, we've hit 8K messages on this thread, time for a new one?

Yes, a new one.

yep

2008 Primaries Thread 3: Oh God It's Still Happening

Symmetry required gabbneb to end this.

symmetry got raped and thrown off a hotel balcony.