OPO: Nicolas Cage's Worst Movie

I forgot about Matchstick Men yesterday when we were talking about this. That's a good movie too.

I saw that Wicker Man has the widow from Deadwood in it. Is there tittay?

dude there's tittay in deadwood!

and that should stop me from seeking out more why?

Basically Nicolas Cage should have just stayed a character actor and never been "promoted" to the action hero/lead role. So it's usually pretty easy to tell which of his movies are going to be good (the quirkier ones that actually involve acting and stories) and which ones are going to be terrible (the big blockbusters). Face/Off and Con-Air are the exceptions, as the big blockbusters that are insane enough to be enjoyable.

It was a tough choice between 8MM and City of Angels, but I chose the former.

Can't see what all the hate is for though, most of his films I've seen have been either good or great: Birdy, Peggy Sue Got Married, Raising Arizona, Moonstruck, Wild at Heart, The Rock, Bringing Out the Dead, Adaptation, Matchstick Men, The Weather Man... That's not a bad average.

i concede your point, Oilyrags.

8mm is so stupid

lol I think the only person who likes National Treasure. It's a mindbogglingly silly rip-off of the Da Vinci Code and therefore about ten times more fun.

I'm going with Sonny - saw that once on TV and couldn't believe I wasted a couple of hours of my life on it.

Ignoring Deadfall (which was basically a family-inspired cameo anyway), I find his making FIVE banal romantic comedies in a row really fascinating, especially when it comes right after a near decade of inspired insanity. From Kiss Of Death on it's pretty varied.

don't get me wrong there's a bunch of good, interesting performances up through at least Wild At Heart, but from the early 90s on - oof what a slide.

Personally I love him in Peggy Sue Got Married ("You don't know ZIP!" "I've got the TEETH, I've got the HAIR" etc.), Raising Arizona, Valey Girl, Moonstruck, etc.

8mm is one of the worst movies evar - but i havent seen most of these

xpost to self: actually, just banal comedies. Amos & Andrew and Trapped In Paradise weren't really romantic (outside of potential homoerotic subtext).

I can't really answer this poll because while I've seen a lot of crappy Cage movies, there are plenty I've ignored as well.

Guarding Tess was hella romantic though.

In fact, I think The Weather Man was one of the best movies I've seen this decade, and lot of it was due to Cage and Michael Caine. But because it wasn't an indie movie with and indie director and indie actors, it got a lot less cinephile attention than, say, Wes Anderson's movies.

It's alright, Roz, I liked National Treasure too, you're not alone. Of the one's I've seen, I think "It Could Happen To You" is the one I'd least like to see again. Though I'm guessing there are worse that I haven't seen because of my internal quality control (would I be right in saying that The Weather Man is pointless and not very good?).

um, xpost

(ignore random apostrophe there plz)

think The Weather Man was one of the best movies I've seen this decade, and lot of it was due to Cage and Michael Caine

Two of my least favourite actors in one film - thank Buddha I've never seen it

how can anybody hate Michael Caine

All these movies you guys are mentioning are worse than _Ghost Rider_?

Like I told Shakey on another poll yesterday, Nicolas Cage was BORN to sell out, so there's no need to rend our garments over a talent betrayed. The burden of proof is to show otherwise.

I voted for "Wicker Man", based on the clips I've seen on "YouTube". If there's a worse one than that, I don't want to even know about it.

how can anybody hate Michael Caine

Ha ha, I don't hate him, I just don't think he's a very good actor - though he has occasionally been good.

Now Michael Caine's Worst Movie - where would you start?!??!

you are talking a pile of poo re: Michael Caine.

But the answer to that poll is Jaws 4: The Revenge.

Oh yeah, Peter O'Toole, he's another one

The one in which he won a lottery, what was that named?

Jaws 4 no question

The Wicker Man might be my favorite movie of his since Snake Eyes, even if that opinion is smothered in irony sauce.

x-post to Heave Ho: It Could Happen To You

Nicolas Cage wasn't in "Jaws 4" was he?

leaving las vegas. i haven't seen most of the undoubtedly awful movies on this list, but even the smidgen of matchstick men i saw was better than leaving las vegas.

oh man, i forgot about FIRE BIRDS

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008L3UF.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Yeah, it's hard to hate someone when you don't actually see the movies he's in that are supposed hateworthy.

These are the only Nic Cage films I've seen:

World Trade Center (2006)
Adaptation (2002)
Face/Off (1997)
Leaving Las Vegas (1995)
Wild at Heart (1990)
Moonstruck (1987)
Raising Arizona (1987)

also, Lord of War is the best movie no one's ever seen.

ts: Leaving Las Vegas vs. Honeymoon in Vegas

I've seen 7 of these, I think. I haven't seen Ghost Rider but I voted for it on GP.

lol I think the only person who likes National Treasure

i liked it ok! i don't understand the vitriolic reactions around here to such a harmless, fluffy movie.

as for my vote, i'd go with "Gone in 60 seconds"

the weatherman is REALLY good. and lord of war is pretty decent! and i still think Adaptation is way, way better than Eternal Sunshine

waht

8mm is the worst film ever made so it walks this.

I really do not get the love for Adaptation, such a cop-out of a film

Cage IS decent in it - he pulls off the twin thing well - but I remember feeling the film didn't take advantage of its best ideas.

His accent in Peggie Sue Got Married is something to hear.

Adaptation = Eternal Sunshine without the twee emo crap and narcissism (ok, less narcissism)

but... they're completely different movies about completely different things! And Adaptation has an even shittier twee-Hollywood-happy ending!

Adaptation is a great movie.

Eternal Sunshine = Adaptation without the meta crap and narcissism.

you people are crazy.

STEP AWAY FROM THE BIKE

I don't understand why anyone would think its so great to make a shitty film that tries to explain away its shittiness with a completely transparent "I MEANT to do that, because I'm rebelling against Hollywood" subtext. Its way more smug and self-serving and boring than anything in Eternal Sunshine - which is probably the most moving, genuinely emotional "romantic comedy" I've seen in at least 20 years.

Eternal Sunshine = Adaptation without the meta crap and narcissism.

that's funny!

i think i find the characters in Adaptation more interesting. more adult anyway...i think the subjects of grief and love in that film are more subtle, and definitely less sunk into the detritus of a failed relationship that isn't that interesting to begin with.

i think, however, that a lot of the problems with Sunshine are more due to Gondry and the performances than the script as written. it required a more detached eye, for my taste.

oh fucking dammit i could have helped 8mm tie for first. wtf kind of p.i. never heard of snuff films ???!!!

no in the movie he was aware of them. still what a shitty shitty movie.

i can' believe i've seen 25 of these movies.

anyway, i finally watched The Weather Man last night and i really liked it! i only watched it cuz i actually like bad nic cage movies so i figured this was just one more and i had completely forgotten what it was about or any reviews of it that i might have read. so, it was a surprise. i mean, it's not perfect or anything, but it had some really good funny/cringeworthy moments. and unlike most male pattern baldness midlife crisis mad-as-hell-not-gonna-etc movies there was no big fake explosion moment where the character just decides to let it all hang out and act irrationally and smoke pot and make a big speech about how he doesn't give a fuck anymore. the ending is actually pretty weird. i didn't really know where things would end up and i liked that.

Yeah I like that movie quite a bit I voted for it on the Michael Caine poll he's pretty good in this.

The Family Man got no votes. lol

1/39

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10010694-season_of_the_witch/

The one positive review:

It's creaky, predictable and frequently idiotic. But for a tipsy Saturday night, this should tick all the right boxes.

with friends like that

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7254/cagebird.jpg

totally read that as "lick all the right boxes"

deffo gonna peep season o' the witch dis weekend

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/feb/19/nicholas-cage-bad-film-guide

the problem i have with cage is that i even like his shit films. well apart from ghost rider, that was the absolute worst.

drive angry is shit... not as bad as bangkok dangerous or whatever it was called

Guardian commenters unusually OTM. Don't write about Nic Cage if you don't even like Face/Off and Con Air.

Lord of War is underrated.

actually i meant bangkok dangerous. that one was pretty shit. but i really liked the sorcerers apprentice!

My wife was watching National Treasure yesterday and that is such an awful movie. It made Da Vinci Code look like Citizen Kane.

yeah Lord Of War i'd put up there with Matchstick Men as one of the few later Cage flicks that's just a perfectly good movie

Bad Lieutenant may be may favorite Cageflick, it seemed to have sank like a stone but if you like Nic Cage as much as I do you should enjoy it; it's basically Nic Cage flipping out on random people for a good hour and a half. Very much like The Vampire's Kiss (another A+ flick in my book). I don't think he's ever made a bad movie. Even the terrible stuff like Season of the Witch or Ghost Rider is at least funny because he's in it. Also, keep in mind that these are my favorite things that Nic Cage has ever done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0

"I don't think he's ever made a bad movie."

I believe it when people say he's totally without self-awareness because NEXT would have been saved if
Cage was at all aware about what it is people want to see him for, instead of playing a corpse the entire movie.
Even worse than Affleck's stab at PKD.

I admire Cage as an actor because he seemingly does not give a shit about what roles he takes and whether it's good for his actorly "reputation". Of course this means that he'll appear in lots of shitty movies but 9/10 times they're watchable because of him.

I think my personal Nick Cage turning point was Wicker Man, because no other actor could pull that kind of ridiculousness off. Wicker Man would just be a bad remake of a classic horror flick instead of a hilariously batshit bad remake of a horror classic.

I was down on Cage for a while then saw him in Kick-Ass, where he was gold through and through--he knew exactly what to do with that role. Very disappointed that the makers of the Green Hornet flick didn't let him do his jamaican-accented bad guy.

I think my personal Nick Cage turning point was Wicker Man, because no other actor could pull that kind of ridiculousness off.

That's basically why I like the man so much. Lots of his roles - The Vampire's Kiss, The Weather Man, Bad Lieutenant, Kick-Ass, etc. etc. just could not be done by anyone else. I mean the guy acts like a lunatic in every movie (and his off-screen persona backs this up) and plays every role 110%. The scene where he eats a cockroach in "Vampire's Kiss" wasn't even in the script!! He just suggested, "I think it would be better if I ate a cockroach here", so he did it. Daaamn

yeah idg how anyone can hate on someone this batshit - he's game for anything. Nothing's beneath this guy. If Tommy Wiseau wanted him to play a dog he'd probably do it. you gotta avoid half his films like the plague but I can't imagine a cinema without him. Also would love to see a super-insider doc about him blowing his millions.

Ouch. "A Score To Settle" (2019). OUCH!
Has a death scene to rival that of Peter Sellers' bugler in "The Party". Not kidding.

Still doin it:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6372694/

Whether that's gonna be good or not probably depends on how much one would want to see Boomtown Festival: The Movie

Impressed that there's barely any mention of Deadfall itt. But it may actually be the greatest of all his performances so maybe it has no place here.