Serious Study: Immaturity Levels Rising

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Perhaps it could double as a cold-frame.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 26 June 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Beth!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It's good that you've learned to value hearth and home, Scott. It must be because your neural pathways are so immature.

I direct an armpit fart in the general direction of David Brooks.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm just glad i didn't make it all about the damn baby cliches on here. "when you look into your infant's eyes, then you realize how petty and pathetic your own selfish..." blah, i hate that crap. even when it's true i hate it. i might even hate it because it's true. all in all, people are the worst. but you never know when they will offer you pie, so you gotta play along.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

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lf (lfam), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

having to care about other people DOES change you though. i got a job as a janitor/custodian at the hospital in part to get cheaper health benefits for the fam. i've never taken a job for that kind of reason before. and taken a job knowing i'll probably have to stick with it until my kids are stock brokers and have me living in the lap of luxury when i'm old (i can dream, can't i?) anyway, at work the other night i look at the wall and there is something posted that says *In Case Of Disaster* and it says that in case of disater the head of housekeeping must immediately call all custodians who must immediately come to the hospital, put on a helmet and armband, act as security in the emergency room, and prepare all conference rooms for bodies and casualties. and i thought to myself, okay, i'm down with that. me five or ten years ago: no way jose! you can keep your bodies. i'm gonna hide under my bed. so there you go.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The author doesn't seem impressed with parenthood either way, though. He mostly seems like he's pissed off at his grad students, and maybe some of the guys in IT.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The article seems to me to be another one of those harkening-back-to-the-good-old-days sorts of things. I actually think it is a sign of maturity to not get married and/or have babies if you don't think you're ready or you don't want to. I have two kids and I love them so much, and some of the "when you look into your infant's eyes..." stuff that Scott cites is true, but in the long run, parenthood is a relentless job, so much so that I don't think anyone knows how true it is until they are there themselves.

I also get frustrated with the defition of family being so narrow.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Monday, 26 June 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

(an EEEEEVIL part of me wants to say I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I? in that nasty little kid voice)

SRC OTM (bwahahaha that nearly spells something).

Additionally, I'm always interested when mediocre academics at middle-weight British universities weigh in about ANYTHING to do with life skills. It would be more newsworthy if they discovered they HAD some. As to the kids thing - I probably can't have them and therefore have to leave my mark on the world in some other way. As to living like a student until your 30s, I've no problem with individuals who live this way - often the choice is not solely made by them, so to be told you're not a grownup on this basis is APPALLING.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

so much so that I don't think anyone knows how true it is until they are there themselves.

I hate to use the term but so fucking on the money.

I dunno. I agree with Sara: this seems as though the old days were better. But were they? I think it's great I waited till I was *older* to have a kid. I cldnt like my parents: they were 19 and 21 ffs!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 26 June 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Like scott sez, I don't think the suggestion is that the old days were better, just very different. I don't think our newfound "freedom" is all that, either.

Half loaf, half pompadour (noodle vague), Monday, 26 June 2006 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Freedom in this usage is right up there with its new friends, flexibility and reform.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 June 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newquestions.php?board=86
-- lf (lfamula...), June 26th, 2006.

ha.

But seriously (because this was a 'serious study' after all), the thing that bothers me most about this study is that it relies too heavily on the 'old ways is better,' pro-retrogressive view of things. Additionally, how old is this guy? Because if he's a baby boomer type, then isn't a lot of this neotenous dawdling a result of his generation's example?

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Boomers don't understand quite how much they shit where they eat sometimes.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I like to think I matured pretty damn quick, despite the fact I have no kids or am married. I moved out of home and lived alone at 18. I can cook, proper meals, for myself, or for a party of 10. I can and do pay all my myriad bills on time, I can balance a bank account, I can pay my taxes, I have coped with abusive relationships without falling to pieces, and depression likewise (alone with no family support I might add). I am 35 and continue to be able to run a household and my life despite illness, aloneness, and fuck all support from anybody as I live no where near my family. I have never been fired from a job or broken the law.

I like to think that makes me mature, doesn't it?

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

SRC OTM (bwahahaha that nearly spells something).

http://www.rhitard.com/daily/scotrun.gif

aimee semple mcmansion (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Trayce, you have my vote for "hyper mature."

(suzy and aimee - LOL on my initials plus OTM.)

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

i'm watching this tv appearance by a guy representing segs4vets and they keep saying "segs for vets" over and over, and there is really not much of a difference between segs and sex. sometimes the words come out a bit differently and the 'g' is a little harder in segs, but generally they sound about the same. how did no one at the organization consider this

Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 April 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

The oxygen machines used in the hospital I work at are all named after Disney characters. Like dopey. Strikes me as a little immature as well

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Sunday, 22 April 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

I was leading training w/ someone (a fairly conservative, polite, professional Christian lady) and since we were in other states and using WebEx, you have to "pass the ball" icon to let them present/share their screen.

so at one point it was getting to be her turn and she msgs me "Wanna ball me?", and 12 year old Neanderthal had to be subdued by office Neanderthal.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link

wait there's an oxygen machine called "Sleepy"?!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 April 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link


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