Recommend some Tsai Ming-Liang

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(as long as it doesn't have any music underneath it AAARRRGH) (this is one of my favorite things about taiwanese cinema, that they dispense with underscoring pretty much completely)

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Finally saw What Time Is It There? -- the last ten minutes almost made cry. Funny in an Buster Keaton way. The only false note was the mother talking to the fish: the only thumpingly explicit scene.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 September 2007 00:51 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

face is fantastic, like fellini meets roy andersson

peter falk's panther burns (schlump), Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

no mention on this thread of goodbye, dragon inn -- definitely one of my top-10-of-the-'00s.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Face is a mess.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

goodbye, dragon inn -- definitely one of my top-10-of-the-'00s

Definitely within the top 50 for me.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 28 December 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

You give out four stars that often?

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2009 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link

You're right. Top 20-ish.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 28 December 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm kind of intrigued that it played that well for you at home; sitting in a theater watching it, well, you can imagine. (I saw it in the morning at the Toronto fest.)

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

If it helps, people kept coming in and out of my apartment and sitting down next to me.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

were any of them former Shaw Brothers actors?

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

As much as I've learned to like a couple of Tsai films, I can't resist the irresistable urge to vacuum and make dinner while the moves are on.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

well for GBDI you could mop the floor and make popcorn.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

And deliver a pink dinner and empty rainwater and dust off ghost peanut shells.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, the buns! Forgot about them.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

am getting so much out of screening this guy's stuff, having previously only seen a couple.

i don't know a lot about taiwanese cinema - is there anyone working in the same sort of circles i should be aware of?

Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Sunday, 18 April 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link

edward yang, edward yang, edward yang

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 18 April 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

hou hsao-hsien, hou hsao-hsien, hou hsao-hsien

Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Sunday, 18 April 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Jia Zhangke, whose movies are a little faster.

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 April 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks a lot y'all. i've seen a little of each, but yang in particular i've totally overlooked. i can't get hold of anything that isn't yi-yi here but will make some efforts.

Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Monday, 19 April 2010 10:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Taipei Story is good, do is everything else

Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 April 2010 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Jia Zhangke, whose movies are a little faster.

mainland director iirc

mainland director iirc

i meant to say that i will be almost racistly liberal with my definition of taiwanese cinema. TML works all over so malay or whatever is also acceptable. i get, more, the bresson comparison after seeing i don't want to sleep alone, it's more stylistic links i'm exploring.

Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Monday, 19 April 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

rebels of the neon god was nice

dayo, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Not a single mention of I Don't Want To Sleep Alone? Probably one of my favourite films of the last 5 years or so.

thubms up for lesebons (admrl), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Also:

Tom Lin Shu-Yu: http://www.asiaarts.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=107670

And Tzu-Jui Hsu's "Rondo" if u can find it.

thubms up for lesebons (admrl), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know a lot about taiwanese cinema - is there anyone working in the same sort of circles i should be aware of?

― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:51 AM (5 months ago)

Ang Lee, but before you LOL check Raise The Red Lantern and Eat Drink Man Woman.

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

except Raise The Red Lantern is Zhang Yimou

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

(who is not from Taiwan)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

haha... why did I think that was Ang Lee? Doesn't he have a period piece along the same lines? #toolazytogoogle

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Not a single mention of I Don't Want To Sleep Alone? Probably one of my favourite films of the last 5 years or so.

― thubms up for lesebons (admrl), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

wayward cloud, too. obscenity, symbolism, musical numbers and all. less impressed with what time is it there, despite the beautiful photography. seen it three times and still can't quite get past the surface.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

hou hsao-hsien, hou hsao-hsien, hou hsao-hsien

― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:06 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

hear this a lot, but found millennium mambo rather thin and tedious. any other hou suggestions?

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, Three Times

MIA Deren Brown Sugar Ray Leonard Cohen Afterworld (admrl), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

A thousand times Three Times

MIA Deren Brown Sugar Ray Leonard Cohen Afterworld (admrl), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

'a time to live and a time to die' is the best i've seen. have .avis of the older ones that i haven't got round to. not crazy about tml, but have given his stuff more of a go recently.

no one was protesting when this happened to (history mayne), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

'a time to live and a time to die' is the best i've seen

^^^ and Goodbye South, Goodbye. You can skip the first and last sections of Three Times.

I think Hou produced Raise the Red Latern

"Edward Yang, Edward Yang, Edward Yang" is the better answer, imo.

C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

But Wayward Cloud put me off Tsai for a while, so maybe I'm not the dude to listen to.

C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

rebels of the neon god was nice

― dayo, Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:38 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stop ingesting (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:27 (ten years ago) link

ah one of a couple I haven't seen, I oughtta

stray dogs got picked up by cinema guild, so might be visible at some point. also screenings of that & what time is it there in LA in March

mustread guy (schlump), Saturday, 18 January 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.yale.edu/wake/fall03/tsai.html

, Saturday, 15 March 2014 11:17 (ten years ago) link

His new short, Journey to the West, is avaible for streaming here

Frederik B, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 12:09 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Stray Dogs is a massive masterpiece, the best film I've seen in years. Written more about it here: http://centrifugue.blogspot.com/2014/04/cphpix-day-3-when-evening-falls-on.html (scroll down)

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 April 2014 08:13 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

man, those last two shots of Stray Dogs are BRUTAL

v. daring to make a cosmically slow movie about nothing and everything and fill it w/ so many sequences of people sleeping - and pissing! i stayed awake and crossed my legs

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 22 June 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

I loved that film

maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Sunday, 22 June 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

xpost

and eating - never has chicken looked so disgusting

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 22 June 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

Such a great film. The best I've seen since Uncle Boonmee. After I'd seen it a second time I was mainly sad that I need to wait until the blu-ray release to see it again :(

Frederik B, Sunday, 22 June 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

my metabolism is such that there's no way i'd be awake for all of that movie.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

where did you see this Ward F?

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 23 June 2014 06:31 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/rXQHPiC.jpg

, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

O_O

rad !

what's the first ?

vive l'amour isn't one of my fav tsais but i just saw dragon inn screened for the first time & thought it was incredible - marienbadesque! - where watching it at home i'd just thought it cute. i always think of morbs' phrasing (iirc), that it 'demands a cinema viewing', so tru of tsai

schlump, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

i wish i could see dragon inn at a cinema.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:44 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Cool interview linked to that:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/apr/04/director-tsai-ming-liang-taiwan-long-take-watermelon-sex

Ward Fowler, Friday, 5 April 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

yeah really excited about this, going to all the tate stuff and hoping to see the vr on monday

devvvine, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link

a total delight, hadn't seen any of his work going in. 'goodbye, dragon inn' on 35 mm was incredible, other favourites were 'your face' and 'no no sleep'. tsai and lee kang-sheng were there for pretty much everything, guy has maybe the most radiant positive energy and basically just wanted to talk about his films and kang-sheng forever. masterclass ran over to about two and half hours - mainly talked about moving from the cinema to the gallery and trying to get audiences into both (a lot about how he sells tickets on the streets), not much about actual filmmaking process. did say that 'goodbye dragon inn' is getting a restoration at the film archive atm.

devvvine, Monday, 8 April 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

surprised to find that I like slow films like Goodbye, Dragon Inn and Stray Dogs much more after a second viewing

Dan S, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 00:41 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

Can't wait! A bit annoyingly there's a retro beginning in Copenhagen this friday, and it won't have the new one. But looking forward to watching The Hole and Goodbye Dragon Inn next week.

Frederik B, Monday, 17 February 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link

🎥🎥🎥

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 February 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

NYC retro schedule, including appearances

https://www.moma.org/calendar/film/5204

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 March 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Rebels of the Neon God on Criterion Channel. More straightforwardly romantic than later pictures, although his camera shows more interest in the brothers' bare chests and their puffy lips than any woman. Strong Nicholas Ray and Van Sant influence. I have an affection for films and novels by artists in embryonic form.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

somewhat pulpy but I loved it

Lee Kang-Sheng is great in it. he plays characters with the same name (Hsiao-Kang) in Vive L'Amour, The River, What Time Is It There?, Goodbye Dragon Inn, The Wayward Cloud, and I Don't Want to Sleep Alone, not sure what that is about

Dan S, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link

The old man does too.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

Find you someone who looks at you like Tsai Ming-Liang looks at Lee Kang-Sheng, as the meme goes.

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

I watched a bit of The Wayward Cloud last night and thought, "this must be what Cabbage Head from Kids in the Hall's sex life is like."

Chris L, Sunday, 4 October 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Days is closer to Millenia.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

Not really. Despite the by now expected static compositions, I detected more movement. I'm fascinated by how queer desire eroticizes urban landscapes.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

restoration of Goodbye, Dragon Inn is astonishing

flappy bird, Sunday, 4 April 2021 06:48 (three years ago) link

I watched The Hole recently (it’s on Kanopy but the restored version is available on VOD) and I wished I had watched it earlier in the pandemic. It captured the emotional tenor of this time so presciently well. I actually think it might be hard to top in that regard.

Chris L, Sunday, 4 April 2021 10:53 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

finally saw Days last night, damn y'all

it was an outdoor screening so it came complete with outside noise, somehow perfect, despite the group beside me who wouldn't stfu

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link

!! ... starts streaming a week from Friday, I think? really looking forward to it

the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

Where is it going to stream again? I assume Mubi.

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

looks like it'll be a virtual cinema thing, found it at https://projectr.tv/ through the distributor's site. not sure if anywhere else.

the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Tsai Ming-liang: TV, Documentary, and Short Films

Please note The Moon is Gone, a TV production, does not have any subtitles. None are available so far as I'm aware. All other titles either have subs or are purposefully presented unsubtitled.https://t.co/52vWLI4acO

— JackEason (@realJackEason) November 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 November 2021 11:27 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Goodbye, Dragon Inn is one of the surest comedies of the last thirty years.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 January 2022 23:02 (two years ago) link


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