― Miss Laura, Wednesday, 23 October 2002 06:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
This Side of Paradise on the other hand is a very tedious read, completely lacking in the romance and depravity, just focussing on the rich-boy crap.
― Steve.n., Wednesday, 23 October 2002 06:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― arantxa, Wednesday, 23 October 2002 08:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
- the narrator not being the main character
- the fractured time sequence
- having the main action of the story take place at sea during a storm
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 08:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 09:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
the first 100 or so pages of 'tender is the night' were excellent, after that it went straight to shit and i couldn't even be bothered to finish it.
― ch. (synkro), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 13:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
Which version did you read? Fitzgerald's intended version where the story begins at the beach, or the version where the parts are swapped to force the story into chronological order?
His intended version reads better - the other version gives too much away too soon.
― Steve.n., Wednesday, 23 October 2002 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
Am I losing my mind? I don't remember anything like this happening in Gatsby.
I read it a couple of years ago on my own. For some reason I never got assigned it in school. I enjoyed it quite a bit, especially the chapter early in the book where Nick goes into the city with Tom and Myrtle and they get plastered and fight. I would recommend it on the strength of that chapter alone.
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
I think it's among the most perfect, polished novels ever written, and he wrote like an angel. There are very few better American novels - one of those few, Ned, is Huck Finn. And quite a bit of it really is set on the water.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
This may take some convincing. ;-) Keep in mind I love Twain and all (but I'm probably more of an Ambrose Bierce lover at heart).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ch. (synkro), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 19:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm actually with Ned on Huck Finn. I read it in high school the same year as Gatsby and thought it was okay, but haven't been able to get through it again.
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 19:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 21:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 23 October 2002 21:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
The original or the seventies version?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 23 October 2002 21:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
Fear and Loathing and Great Gatsby - both have large amounts of mint juleps.
― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 3 March 2003 01:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yes, one of the best books ever. I don't really have anything to add to that.
― thom west (thom w), Monday, 3 March 2003 03:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 March 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the pinefox, Thursday, 24 April 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:49 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:54 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 5 June 2003 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 5 June 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 June 2003 22:14 (twenty years ago) link
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 6 June 2003 03:34 (twenty years ago) link
― the bellefox, Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link
keep meaning to rerereread "tender is the night"
― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I liked the first third a LOT but not the second third. maybe the last third would have been different, again
― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 27 November 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 27 November 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Sunday, 27 November 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 27 November 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
What a great formulation, from N.!
― the bellefox, Sunday, 27 November 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah, like three times. what i meant was unfilmable in the sense that it wouldn't make a very good film.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.whitehouse.gov/holiday/thanksgiving/photoessay/images/c18535-18-398h.jpg
Is that you in the middle, Ned?
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/rxmKw8N.jpg
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link
^^ i approve of this adaptation, better than the original
The new Pride and Prejudice and Zombies?
― Word Salad Username (j.lu), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
Pride and Psyduck
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link
for whom bellsprout tolls
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/eH73hnX.png
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
I keep thinking about this film? I actually really like Carey Mulligan's performance - I think it's super successful at suggesting a different & more feminist reading of the story.
I wonder what this movie would be like if you just removed Toby Macguire competely.
This trailer is so so good - love this kinda nonchronological buildup style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqxmhJU4nk4
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link
just saw this, the first 20-30 minutes are ultrabad, like "hmmm maybe i could sneak into the next theater and watch the internship" level bad. it does sort of come together after that, decaprio is really quite good, and tobey mcguire alternates between being prtty decent whan actually acting with humans, but awful when doing voiceovers, like crazy awful. other than the party scenes, the apartment party in particular, and the car scenes, luhrmann is oddly subdued a lot of the time, and there are other bright moments as well (the floral arrangements in the daisy/nick/gatsby tea scene is a pretty howlingly funny moment actually). most of the female leads are better than expected, although carey mulligan is pretty flat. tom is very well cast and works really well in the part. its def flawed, but much better than i expected while still somehow not being great in any way. music is mostly (with a couple notable exceptions) buried and unobtrusive thank god. weird organ player dude annoyed the shit out of me. no leguizamo.
so yeah theres my review
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
weird organ player dude annoyed the shit out of me. no leguizamo.
plz say this is supposed to be read in the manner of the problematic "no homo" idiom
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
haha
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/SHiFzUl.jpg
― 乒乓, Friday, 14 June 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link
dicaprio is actually a genetic mutant who has double the number of facial muscles that a normal human would have
As if he were Hollywood's bully whippet...
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Friday, 14 June 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7287/8739186504_4fe7f2a405.jpg
― am0n, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/68451324
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 06:33 (ten years ago) link
The first hour is the comedy of the year. Best moment: Tom's slo-mo slap of Myrtle; CUT TO black guy playing trumpet.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
I'm disappointed that as Leo said "we're goign to meet Meyer Wolfsheim, one of the city's most distinguished businessmen" we didn't get CUT TO HUGE SILHOUETTE OF WOLFSHEIM'S QUIVERING JEWISH NOSE instead of THE EYES OF DR. ECKLEBURG or whtaever
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link
I'm about halfway through and jjjusten is otm, first 20 minutes made me want to tear out my own eyes...but it has kinda surprised me so far. Like, it's not as horrible as I expected. I'm pretending not to hear most of the music. *barf*
Tobey McGuire's narration is distractingly bad. From the initial voiceover I thought I was going to see him in horrible old-man makeup because he sounded so frail and doddering. And the line readings are really weird, strange pauses in weird places...cmon dude
But I dig Leo's Gatsby. He's good with the facial stuff, the way his eyes belie the confidence he's trying to project, it's pretty spot on.
Anyway back to the movie.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
Wtf was dayo talking about? It's so not a love story!
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 16 June 2014 07:51 (nine years ago) link
why did you watch this
― macklemorange is the new wack (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 June 2014 07:53 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZh6xSV-12c
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 June 2014 11:22 (nine years ago) link
I'm talking about the book haven't seen the movie
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 16 June 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
I'm talking about the movie haven't read the book
― 龜, Monday, 16 June 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
you should it rules
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Help.
le what pic.twitter.com/2yNgBgAr7n— Jared Pechacek (@vandroidhelsing) January 4, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
Also unperson says the author is actually previously published by an actual publisher? Which is the most surprising thing.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 January 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
it could be good if it punctures the smooth facade/babe in the woods schtick he and many other narrators use, like uncover some buried rage that he studiously evades in his narration of 'gatsby.' probably bad though.
― treeship., Monday, 4 January 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link
The summary reads like the pitch was "I've got it, I'll turn this Fitzgerald character into a Hemingway one."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 January 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link