1990 Pazz & Jop

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xxpost, that must be why Idolator and Popdust have been sweating that Bathtub Shitter EP so hard

Dan Watagatapitusperry (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

2 G n'R albums making the top 20

― amphetamine enhanced scholar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:11 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

gn'r are/were a special case, though, and by that point had exactly nothing to do with anyone's conception of heavy metal

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

which leaves just metallica: the very successful pop move of a long-running and critically-celebrated heavy metal band whose best and most influential work was clearly behind them

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

why isn't "1990 and 2010 were different times" a sufficient answer?

Dan Watagatapitusperry (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Plenty of "alt-rock" (Smashing Pumpkins) and "grunge" (Pearl Jam) and "industrial" (Nine Inch Nails) bands that would've been considered metal in any previous decade scored on Pazz & Jop in the '90s, yeah. (Though I think that post the first time I've ever heard anybody call Pantera grunge.)

And right, I definitely tried hard to bring in more metal voters in the '00s. Probably had some success, too, here and there, but (just like with country voters, Latin voters, etc.) obviously not enough to affect the overall tally. (Like Whiney was basically saying, metal voters are not going to place any albums in Pazz & Jop on their own; they need help from non-metal people.)

by that point had exactly nothing to do with anyone's conception of heavy metal

Pretty sure plenty of non-metal-obsessed people still considered GnR a hair-metal band.

xhuxk, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Guns n' Roses: hair-metal::Led Zeppelin: psychedelia

amphetamine enhanced scholar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

And the future President Keyes can get all huffy about the 2010 Pazz And Jop not having A Day To Remember or Nevershoutnever on it

I was just pointing out a few now well-regarded albums that didn't make the list, and may have a better chance if the year was re-polled today. Honestly didn't even register of Jane's or Living Colour as Metal when I saw the list. And I'm in more of a tizzy than a huff.

President Keyes, Thursday, 20 January 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Let's get huffy about these results.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Or these!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link


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