Your opinion, please: 366-band, 411 track 1981 box set

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I'm so excited.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

O. Nate --

Yeah, I spent a sort of absurd amount of time normalising and doing subtle dynamic gain and manually removing the worst pops to get the stuff to sound good together. Fortunately, there was usually a general cleanliness and sparcity of production on a lot of music then, so production-wise they were easeier to flow together than, say, Big Black, My Bloody Valentine, and a pre-war blues record, etc. But the quality of recording, mastering, mixing varies pretty greatly. It was a lot of work, but hopefully worth it--the sort of thing that hopefully no one will really notice, unless they're prone to thinking about that sort of thing.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Ok, a sort of cool, sort of unfortunate announcment to make:

I found that by reencoding the briefcase tracks at a slightly lower bitrate (still VBR) I could fit a _LOT_ more on the disc. So, I've now changed it to hold 252 tracks, 207 bands who aren't on the main mixes. This has allowed me to fit in a lot of the stuff I'd previously had to leave out but didn't want to based on musical interest/quality. I don't think it's noticably diminished the audio quality--they were already mp3s, so either you already didn't like how they sounded or you probably won't notice the difference.

Anybody whose copy hasn't gone out yet will get this version. With this disc, the set now comes to officially 408 bands/artists, 482 tracks, 24.5 hours.

Now, to be fair, I'd like to offer to send this version to everyone who's already got a copy, if they think they need _MORE_ 1981. Alternately, I'll make the folder available on my soulseek. So, email me at the address below. If you need a physical replacement, it'll take a while---as in, when I'm done with all the copies of the full set, which could be months from now. But I'd still like to make it available to you.

*PLEASE* make sure to make your subject line say "BRIEFCASE" so I'll notice the emails seperate from others.

Here's the updated briefcase tracklist:

231. Agent Orange - Miserlou (2:06)
232. Black Flag - What I See (1:55)
233. Blue Orchids - Dumb Magician (2:54)
234. Blue Nile - The Second Act (4:20)
235. British Electronic Foundation - Optimum Chant (4:11)
236. Cabaret Voltaire - Landslide (2:07)
237. Cardboards - Electrical Generator (3:32)
238. Comsat Angels - Now I Know (BBC) (4:14)
239. Crash Course in Science - Flying Turns (2:58)
240. Creatures - Thumb (3:58)
241. Cure, The - Primary (3:34)
242. Dancing Cigarettes - Puppies in a Sack (4:22)
243. dB's, The - I'm In Love (3:28)
244. Diagram Brothers - Bricks (2:42)
245. Dif Juz - Cs (4:49)
246. DNA - 5-30 (1:04)
247. Durutti Column - Jaqueline (2:19)
248. Embarrassment, The - Sexy Singer Girl (2:14)
249. Eno, Brian and David Byrne - Mea Culpa (Edit) (1:46)
250. Eurythmics - Sing-Sing (4:05)
251. Fall, The - Lie Dream of a Casino Soul (3:11)
252. Family Fodder - Dinosaur Sex (9:01)
253. Fire Engines - Discord (Single) (2:40)
254. Gang of Four - Outside the Trains Don't Run On Time (3:17)
255. Go-Go's - Automatic (3:08)
256. Homosexuals - In Search of the Perfect Baby (5:28)
257. Liaisons Dangereuses - Etre Assis Ou Danser (3:26)
258. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (In) (3:56)
259. Lounge Lizards - Ballad (3:25)
260. Minutemen, The - Boiling (0:57)
261. New Musik - This World Of Walter (2:55)
262. Newman, Colin - Inventory (2:11)
263. Orange Juice - Wan Light (2:30)
264. Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Yodel 1 (4:09)
265. Public Image Ltd - Go Back (3:46)
266. Sound, The - Judgement (5:03)
267. Stranglers - Everybody Loves You When you're Dead (2:41)
268. Teardrop Explodes, The - . . .and The Fighting Takes Over (3:54)
269. Wire - Our Swimmer (Edit) (2:29)
270. X - The Once Over Twice (2:30)
271. Yellow Magic Orchestra - Seoul Music (4:45)
272. Young Marble Giants - Posed by Models (1:24)
273. You've Got Foetus on Your Breath - I Am Surrounded by Incompetence (4:52)
274. Zoomers - From the Planet Moon (2:55)
275. 45 Grave - 45 Grave (3:21)
276. 999 - Bongos on the Nile (2:55)
277. A Flock of Seagulls - Telecommunication (2:32)
278. ABC - Tears Are Not Enough (Edit) (2:22)
279. Adam & The Ants - Prince Charming (3:17)
280. Airmail - In a Moment (5:16)
281. Alternative TV - My Hand Is Still Wet (3:19)
282. Angelic Upstarts - I Understand (2:53)
283. APB - Talk To Me (3:00)
284. Aquila - Without a Care (4:16)
285. Article 58 - Lost & Found (3:26)
286. Au Pairs - Love Song (2:48)
287. Avacados - I Never Knew (2:23)
288. Babylon Dance Band - When I'm Home (2:34)
289. Bad Brains - Pay to Cum (1:30)
290. Bangs, The - Getting Out Of Hand (2:14)
291. Beakers, The - Four Steps Toward a Cultural Revolution (1:29)
292. Beelzebub Youth - Push Push Push (2:03)
293. Bene Gesserit - Do You Know (3:48)
294. Berlinski Zid - Mozgani na Asfaltu (2:44)
295. Birnbaum, Dara - Kojak-Wang (0:55)
296. Black Uhuru - Youth Of Eglington (5:02)
297. Blackouts - Young Man (2:57)
298. Blah Blah Blah - Central Park (3:53)
299. Blancmange - Sad Day (Early) (2:24)
300. Blasters - This Is It (2:15)
301. Blondie - Rapture (Edit) (3:39)
302. B-Movie - Remembrance Day (3:44)
303. Bouncing Czechs - 1992 (Edit) (2:22)
304. Bow Wow Wow - Why Are Babies So Wise (2:55)
305. Bunnydrums - Little Room (3:04)
306. Buzz - Life Ends (1:57)
307. Calm, The - Lol Coxhill (2:09)
308. Chameleons - Here Today (BBC) (3:43)
309. Chefs - Someone I Know (2:07)
310. Chemicals Made From Dirt - Ike (2:27)
311. Cherry Boys - Too Much Confusion (2:44)
312. China Shop - Kowtow (3:53)
313. Chords, The - One More Minute (3:35)
314. Christian Death - Dogs (2:54)
315. Clash, The - The Magnificent Dance (3:25)
316. Club Tango - Performance (Edit) (2:24)
317. Colours Out of Time - The Waiting (BBC) (3:38)
318. Commericals - Simon (2:18)
319. Conservatives - Suburban Bitch (1:21)
320. Crispy Ambulance - The Presence (Edit) (3:19)
321. Dalek I Love You - Heartbeat (2:53)
322. Damned, The - Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (Edit) (2:51)
323. Dangerous Girls - Men in Suits (2:41)
324. Danse Society - Continent (4:40)
325. Dark Day - Extermination (1:10)
326. Deep Freeze Mice - Dr. Z (3:38)
327. Department S - Age Concern (2:31)
328. Digital Dinosaurs - The Sideways Man (2:22)
329. Doctor Mix & The Remix - Brand New Cadillac (1:47)
330. Dramatis - Love Needs No Disguise (4:39)
331. Drowning Craze - Storage Case (3:05)
332. Dum Dum Dum - Dum Dum Dum (2:56)
333. Effigies - Strong Box (1:11)
334. Eight Eyed Spy - Lazy In Love (2:56)
335. Ejectors - Little Johnny (2:41)
336. Electric Guitars - Continental Shelf (2:55)
337. Essential Logic - Fanfare In the Garden (3:06)
338. Ex, The - Weapons for El Salvador (2:47)
339. Factrix - Thin Line (2:20)
340. Fair, Jad - Fish Can Talk (0:52)
341. Fast Set, The - King of the Rumbling Spires (2:00)
342. Fifteen Minutes - Last Chance for You (2:39)
343. Fingerprintz - Shadowed (3:04)
344. Five Or Six - The Trial (2:49)
345. Fleshtones - The Dreg (3:10)
346. Freddy And The Fruitloops - Right & Wrong (3:09)
347. Front 242 - Body to Body (4:10)
348. Generation X - Dancing With Myself (3:47)
349. George Harrassment - Yoghurt (1:20)
350. Gifted Children - Lichtenstein Girl (3:13)
351. Gilbert & Lewis - Hung Up To Dry Whilst Building An Arch (2:24)
352. Girls At Our Best - Go for Gold (3:22)
353. Gizmos - Biscuits & Gravy (2:05)
354. Goldman, Vivien - Launderette (3:44)
355. Gordon, Kim & Miranda - Working Youth (0:49)
356. Haig, Paul - Mad Horses (4:34)
357. Haircut 100 - Favourite Shirt (3:05)
358. Harrison, Kevin - People in Space (1:55)
359. Icehouse - Icehouse (Edit) (3:04)
360. Icicle Works - When Winter Lasted Forever (Edit) (2:25)
361. In Camera - Die Laughing (4:38)
362. Ippu-Do - Mission Impossible Theme (2:22)
363. It's Immaterial - A Gigantic Raft (Edit) (3:23)
364. Jackson, Joe - Beat Crazy (3:21)
365. Jagatara - Hey Say! (Edit) (2:58)
366. Jam, The - Absolute Beginners (2:51)
367. Kontakt Microfoon Orkest - Do the Residue (4:49)
368. Lambrettas, The - Decent Town (3:12)
369. Last Four Digits - Diddy Wah Diddy (1:52)
370. Leer, Thomas - Kings Of Sham (3:55)
371. Legal Weapon - Daddy's Gone Mad (2:36)
372. Liliput - Eisiger Wind (3:28)
373. Limp, The - Marked Man (2:45)
374. Lovich, Lene - New Toy (3:15)
375. Ludus - Mutilate (2:33)
376. Macs, The - I'm 37 (2:39)
377. Malaria - How Do You Like My New Dog (2:49)
378. Marine - Life in Reverse (2:44)
379. Mass - Cross Purposes (4:26)
380. Maximum Joy - Strech (Edit) (2:57)
381. Medium Medium - The Glitterhouse (2:16)
382. Men At Work - Who Can It Be Now (3:19)
383. Metal Urbain - Hysterie Connective (Early Version) (2:43)
384. Meteors - Graveyard Stomp (2:05)
385. Method Actors, The - You (3:59)
386. Minny Pops - Dolphin's Spurt (2:56)
387. Misfits, The - Halloween (1:46)
388. Modern English - Black Houses (5:44)
389. Monochrome Set - Ten Don'ts For Honeymooners (3:05)
390. Moore, Thurston - The Fucking Youth Of Today (0:49)
391. Mr Science - Mr. Science (2:23)
392. My Captains - Converse (4:29)
393. Naked Lunch - La Femme (5:23)
394. Names - Music For Someone (1:56)
395. Nasmak - Vaseline des Artistes (3:14)
396. Native Hipsters - Tropical Fish in the Sink (3:38)
397. Neonbabies - Profi (3:50)
398. Neonbabies - Spass Muss Sein (1:57)
399. Neu Electrikk - Lust of Berlin (2:46)
400. No More - Suicide Commando (3:19)
401. Oingo Boingo - Capitalism (3:40)
402. Our Daughter's Wedding - Airlines (3:35)
403. Passage - Hip Rebels (3:28)
404. Philosophic Collage - Toxic Poppies (1:34)
405. Pin Group - Ambivalence (3:28)
406. Plimsouls - Mini-Skirt Minnie (2:42)
407. Plus Instruments - Things (2:20)
408. Poison Girls - Ideologically Unsound (2:39)
409. Police, The - Darkness (3:10)
410. Polyphonic Size - Mothers Little Helper (3:06)
411. Polyrock - Rain (4:01)
412. Pop, Iggy - Sea of Love (3:40)
413. Positive Noise - End In Tears (3:47)
414. Post Raisin Band - Pink Lincoln (2:25)
415. Predator - He Thinks He Knows Me (3:00)
416. Quad Pi - Near You (2:07)
417. Rally Go - Mass Brew Action (2:34)
418. Ranaldo, Lee - Shift (0:45)
419. Red Asphalt - Red Asphalt (1:51)
420. Red Cross - Puss 'N' Boots (2:33)
421. Red Krayola - An Old Man's Dream (2:30)
422. Reflections - 4 Countries (1:53)
423. Revillos - She's Fallen In Love with a Monster Man (3:19)
424. Room, The - Bated Breath (4:01)
425. Russell, Arthur - Sketch for Face of Helen (Edit) (3:31)
426. Schizoid - White House (3:13)
427. Scientists - She Said She Loves Me (2:09)
428. Second Layer - Distortion (Edit) (2:39)
429. Shivvers - Remember Tonight (3:21)
430. Simple Minds - Theme for Great Cities (Edit) (4:13)
431. Ski Patrol - Cut (3:55)
432. Slow Children - Spring in Fialta (3:24)
433. Slugfuckers - Schizo Revolution(1981) (mid-fi) (3:44)
434. Social Distortion - Telling Them (3:08)
435. Sort Sol - Misguided (4:19)
436. Spandau Ballet - To Cut A Long Story Short (Edit) (3:19)
437. Spanish Dogs - Cleveland (2:39)
438. Splodgenessabounds - Cowpunk Medlum (2:36)
439. Starter - Part of You (3:09)
440. Stolen Power - Little White Lies (2:45)
441. Strutz - Break Point (2:21)
442. Student Nurse - Discover Your Feet (2:34)
443. Suburban Lawns - Computer Date (1:05)
444. Subway Sect, The - Parallel Lines (2:38)
445. Surplus Stock - Let's Kill Each Other (3:19)
446. Swamp Children - Call Me Honey (4:53)
447. Swell Maps - Forest Fire (released 1981) (3:01)
448. Takahashi, Yukihiro - Something in the Air (4:51)
449. Tame O'Mearas - Curl Curl (2:18)
450. Tanks - March of the Slugs (4:39)
451. Teenage Filmstars - I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape (2:55)
452. Telefones - Solid Ground (3:12)
453. Tenants - Submind (2:48)
454. The Past Seven Days - Raindance (Edit) (4:57)
455. The The - Untitled (3:23)
456. Theatre of Hate - My Own Invention (3:17)
457. Theoretical Girls - Electronic Angie (Studio) (3:37)
458. Thompson Twins - Politics (2:20)
459. Times, The - Biff! Bang! Pow! (2:51)
460. Triffids - This Boy (2:55)
461. TSOL - I'm Tired Of Life (1:50)
462. Tucker, Maureen - Louie Louie (2:41)
463. Two by Fours - Another 8 Hours (1:34)
464. UB40 - One in Ten (4:33)
465. Urban Verbs - Business and the Rational Mind (4:51)
466. Urinals - I Hate (2:02)
467. U-Turn - Price of Fame (2:16)
468. Vapors, The - Jimmie Jones (Single Version) (3:23)
469. Visage - Mind Of A Toy (4:28)
470. Vital Disorder - Let's Talk About Prams (2:17)
471. Volk, Hugh - Talk of the Town (2:04)
472. Walking Floors - No Next Time (2:26)
473. Wall of Voodoo - Crack the Bell (3:33)
474. Wanderers - Beyond the Law (2:08)
475. Watt, Ben - Departure (1:35)
476. Weirdos, The - Weird World (Demo) (3:02)
477. Wild West - Fierce Atoms (2:25)
478. Work, The - Duty (1:04)
479. xAx - Banging Your Head (3:41)
480. Xmal Deutschland - Schwarz Welt (2:39)
481. Xpozez - New Law (1:19)
482. Zounds - Demystification (3:45)

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy fuck, this is the greatest piece of mail I have ever recieved...listening to the Fire disc for the third time, still lost in it despite the fact that I'm itching to get to the rest. Really phenomenal work, man. Thank you.

Do you have any objections with me submitting the track names to CDDB, so that the next person who wants to dump this onto their iPod/whatever doesn't have to type all the track names in? Wanted to check before I went ahead and did it...

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy fuck, this is the greatest piece of mail I have ever recieved...listening to the Fire disc for the third time, still lost in it despite the fact that I'm itching to get to the rest. Really phenomenal work, man. Thank you.

Thank you!

I'm fine with submitting the tracklisting. Just don't mention my name or email address anywhere, if you don't mind. I meant to do it myself, but I couldn't figure out how.

I.M.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 10 April 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No problem. Anonymity is understood. I'll try to get them up in a few minutes.

John Justen (johnjusten), Sunday, 10 April 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

A few of the discs are already CDDB'ed, btw.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 10 April 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

barbara gogan appeared on one of the hector zazou albums. can't remember if it was sahara blue or the latter ones.

that briefcase is fantastic looking. and 1981 was a special year too.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Sunday, 10 April 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link

12 more went out today, keep your eyes peeled if you're expecting a copy. I'm going to announce another round soon, so if you're received an email from me saying a copy is ready, but haven't gotten in touch with me yet, I'll have to move you back into the waiting list soon.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

The 'Computer' disc has proven to be the perfect soundtrack to that Q/Mojo electropop special issue I burbled about on the "Blasphemous Rumours" thread -- and more to the point, has also introduced me to some marvellous new songs amid many a loved standard. Again, sir, kudos.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, Ned. I continue to be thrilled that someone as versed as you enjoys the set. Thanks for the continued feedback!

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

.. And now I'm hoping mine hasn't been sent out yet, greedy get I am...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark ---

I'm afraid it has been : \ Drop me an email and I'll put you on the 'Briefcase' list, and I'll get you the final version eventually.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Heck, don't worry about it. The email below is the real one, but put me last on the list, it's only fair.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Mine arrived today. It's really impressive, it's very representative of everything I like about music and music fans.

I've had a few friends express interest in a listening party this weekend, so I'll make sure the word is heard.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

a listening party this weekend

That's incredibly geeky and incredibly cool. Hope they like it!

Supposedly some kids in my town are organising a "1981" dance party. I might DJ, even though I don't really "dance".

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I got mine on Monday (my 30th birthday) and I couldn't be happier. Even though it was unintentional, THANK YOU I.M., for the wonderful birthday present! It was one of the best gifts I received. I have burned all the songs to my iPod and I am currently listening to the entire mix on shuffle all day at work. It's like I'm six all over again (now if only I could be typing this email on a commodore PET computer for verisimilitude's sake, then I would truly be transported back to those days). Congratulations on a job well done!

ianinportland (ianinportland), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

but put me last on the list, it's only fair.

Haha! If it helps any Mark, I feel the same way you do. Especially since some of the added songs were d/l from me personally only a week before and previously unknown to our compiler. While I don't think including them was a crime in and of itself (I do not think of them as my property), I do think it's a bit dodgy to then claim he "had to leave them out" of the original set for other reasons, and it also leaves me in a position of having to catch up with the other songs added just like everyone else. I.M. is not going to be d/l anything from me anymore if I have anything to say about it, and I don't want any new and improved Briefcases, either.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Especially since some of the added songs were d/l from me personally only a week before and previously unknown to our compiler.

Friend, by my count, not more than 4 tracks of the 71 I added to the briefcase were downloaded from you, so I'm not exactly sure what you're problem is. It seems you have issues, and your slanted communication has bugged me since day one. Frankly, I'll go a step further than not downloading anything from you--I'd rather not have to talk with you ever again. You speak as though you're giving commands, you ask for my albums list, the only reason I can imagine being you'd like for me to send you albums; you complain about how other people who aren't experts were getting their sets before you, so I bumped you up in the queue; and you tel me I'm ego tripping for sharing with you the nice remarks from Mr. Reynolds I'd just then discovered. You can take your crumby sub-Crispy Ambulance bore-core records and keep them.

I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

!

*bows*

(Am listening to the final disc right now. Can I just say again how genius this is, and that I can't wait to listen to the Briefcase -- the older version, which though I wouldn't mind the newer one is MORE than perfectly fine.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

have i moved up on the list at all? :(

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Not to mention that I had to explain in fucking baby talk what a goddamned mp3-CD is and how one makes a data disc. I hope for your sake you were having me on with all that, and that you're not really so slow.

One final thing---I think being 10 years old in 1981 doesn't quit qualify you as having "been there". You spoke to me in the most condescending tones, in your aged wisdom and insight; while every guy who really has insight, like Ned or Simon and everyone else, has been supportive and helpful.

You absolutely *do* think of all of this as your property; what confuses me is how, knowing as much of it as you know, you manage to have such piss poor taste.

I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

have i moved up on the list at all? :(

Cutty---

I'm afraid I don't remember what email address you used to put in your request. Would you mind emailing me again, and I'll see where you are?

I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

This whole bimble/I.M. exchange is pretty bizarre.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

in fairness, searching soulseek by year, eg. 1981 gives hundreds of results. so, to say that you are owed a copy because 4 of the tracks where downloaded from you is, and i quote one of my critics, "utter shit". what makes your mp3's more special than anyone elses? unless you are the artist(es) in question providing quality lossless recordings from the original masters, shut up and stop your whining. and throwing a hissy fit saying that so-and-so will never download anything from you ever again. is that supposed to be a crushing blow for music lovers everywhere?

grow up please.
moving on.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 14 April 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

ummmmmmmm changing topics, would anyone whose already got all the tracks typed out mind submitting the discs to freedb as well please? pretty please?

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 16 April 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i gotta pop in and thank i.m. - its been a pleasure listening to all this music especially all the bands i hadn't yet gotten to hear (or hear of).

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 16 April 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., would you mind posting a list of just the songs added to the "2nd edition" of the briefcase disc (rather than the complete contents as above)? I see no reason why you should need to shlep me an extra disc, but i'd like to easily see which tracks I'm missing.

a happy 1981 nut (Robust Cookies), Saturday, 16 April 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Artdamages ---

Thanks, back. I'm looking forward to hearing about which undiscovered (to them) bands people liked best, or what albums they went out and bought as a result of the set : )


1981 nut ---


I'll do my best. There've really been a few incrimental changes over the months, and then this big change recently, so I don't really know who has exactly what. Just trying to remember what's new or has changed since the first versions, here goes:

1. Agent Orange - Miserlou (1981) (2:06)
2. Black Flag - What I See (1981) (1:55)
3. Blue Orchids - Dumb Magician (1981) (2:54)
4. Blue Nile - The Second Act (1981) (4:20)
5. British Electronic Foundation - Optimum Chant (1981) (4:11)
6. Cabaret Voltaire - Landslide (1981) (2:07)
7. Crash Course in Science - Flying Turns (1981) (2:58)
8. Creatures - Thumb (1981) (3:58)
9. Dancing Cigarettes - Puppies in a Sack (1981) (4:22)
10. dB's, The - I'm In Love (1981) (3:28)
11. Diagram Brothers - Bricks (1981) (2:42)
12. Dif Juz - Cs (1981) (4:49)
13. Durutti Column - Jaqueline (1981) (2:19)
14. Eno, Brian and David Byrne - Mea Culpa (Edit) (1981) (1:46)
15. Eurythmics - Sing-Sing (1981) (4:05)
16. Fall, The - Lie Dream of a Casino Soul (1981) (3:11)
17. Fire Engines - Discord (Single) (1981) (2:40)
18. Gang of Four - Outside the Trains Don't Run On Time (1981) (3:17)
19. Go-Go's - Automatic (1981) (3:08)
20. Lounge Lizards - Ballad (1981) (3:25)
21. Minutemen, The - Boiling (1981) (0:57)
22. Newman, Colin - Inventory (1981) (2:11)
23. Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Yodel 1 (1981) (4:09)
24. Sound, The - Judgement (1981) (5:03)
25. Stranglers - Everybody Loves You When you're Dead (1981) (2:41)
26. Wire - Our Swimmer (Edit) (1981) (2:29)
27. X - The Once Over Twice (1981) (2:30)
28. Yellow Magic Orchestra - Seoul Music (1981) (4:45)
29. Young Marble Giants - Posed by Models (1981) (1:24)
30. You've Got Foetus on Your Breath - I Am Surrounded by Incompetence (1981) (4:52)
31. Angelic Upstarts - I Understand (1981) (2:53)
32. APB - Talk To Me (1981) (3:00)
33. Article 58 - Lost & Found (1981) (3:26)
34. Babylon Dance Band - When I'm Home (1981) (2:34)
35. Beakers, The - Four Steps Toward a Cultural Revolution (1981) (1:29)
36. Bene Gesserit - Do You Know (1981) (3:48)
37. Berlinski Zid - Mozgani na Asfaltu (1981) (2:44)
38. Birnbaum, Dara - Kojak-Wang (1981) (0:55)
39. Black Uhuru - Youth Of Eglington (1981) (5:02)
40. Blackouts - Young Man (1981) (2:57)
41. Blasters - This Is It (1981) (2:15)
42. Calm, The - Lol Coxhill (1981) (2:09)
43. Cherry Boys - Too Much Confusion (1981) (2:44)
44. China Shop - Kowtow (1981) (3:53)
45. Chords, The - One More Minute (1981) (3:35)
46. Clash, The - The Magnificent Dance (1981) (3:25)
47. Electric Guitars - Continental Shelf (1981) (2:55)
48. Fleshtones - The Dreg (1981) (3:10)
49. Freddy And The Fruitloops - Right & Wrong (1981) (3:09)
50. Gizmos - Biscuits & Gravy (1981) (2:05)
51. Gordon, Kim & Miranda - Working Youth (1981) (0:49)
52. Harrison, Kevin - People in Space (1981) (1:55)
53. In Camera - Die Laughing (1981) (4:38)
54. Ippu-Do - Mission Impossible Theme (1981) (2:22)
55. Leer, Thomas - Kings Of Sham (1981) (3:55)
56. Macs, The - I'm 37 (1981) (2:39)
57. Method Actors, The - You (1981) (3:59)
58. Moore, Thurston - The Fucking Youth Of Today (1981) (0:49)
59. Mr Science - Mr. Science (1981) (2:23)
60. Naked Lunch - La Femme (1981) (5:23)
61. Nasmak - Vaseline des Artistes (1981) (3:14)
62. Neonbabies - Profi (1981) (3:50)
63. Neonbabies - Spass Muss Sein (1981) (1:57)
64. Philosophic Collage - Toxic Poppies (1981) (1:34)
65. Plus Instruments - Things (1981) (2:20)
66. Positive Noise - End In Tears (1981) (3:47)
67. Rally Go - Mass Brew Action (1981) (2:34)
68. Ranaldo, Lee - Shift (1981) (0:45)
69. Revillos - She's Fallen In Love with a Monster Man (1981) (3:19)
70. Russell, Arthur - Sketch for Face of Helen (Edit) (1981) (3:31)
71. Schizoid - White House (1981) (3:13)
72. Scientists - She Said She Loves Me (1981) (2:09)
73. Shivvers - Remember Tonight (1981) (3:21)
74. Ski Patrol - Cut (1981) (3:55)
75. Spanish Dogs - Cleveland (1981) (2:39)
76. Starter - Part of You (1981) (3:09)
77. Stolen Power - Little White Lies (1981) (2:45)
78. Student Nurse - Discover Your Feet (1981) (2:34)
79. Surplus Stock - Let's Kill Each Other (1981) (3:19)
80. Tanks - March of the Slugs (1981) (4:39)
81. Volk, Hugh - Talk of the Town (1981) (2:04)
82. Watt, Ben - Departure (1981) (1:35)
83. Work, The - Duty (1981) (1:04)
84. Xmal Deutschland - Schwarz Welt (1981) (2:39)

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., my cousin, a man of good worth, saw your set last night when I visited him and was deeply impressed. He would love to be added to the waiting list but understands if you need to take a break!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll do my best. There've really been a few incrimental changes over the months, and then this big change recently, so I don't really know who has exactly what.

THIS is exactly where I view the problem to be: you don't know who has what. Certainly the set is a great thing as it is, don't get me wrong. I don't regret having it at all. But to continually change the contents of the briefcase shows a blatant disregard for anyone who happens to care about these things. Granted not all people will, and that's fine. But you knew when you announced the 'big change' that it would likely make some people unhappy, because you said you had "a sort of cool, sort of unfortunate announcment to make". So it shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

As for having "piss poor taste" - for goodness sake, taste is a subjective thing and no two people have the same taste. It isn't something you cultivate to impress other people (at least I've never viewed it as such), it just is. I can hardly think of a more benign "insult" than saying someone has "piss poor taste". I don't like some of the bands you are into either - big deal!

As for whether you consider 10 years old to be old enough to have "been there" I couldn't give a rat's ass about that either. Whatever this elusive thing is called "being there" is something only you can define and give meaning to because it honestly doesn't mean anything to me - I don't see it as the status symbol you so obviously do. There are people even 10 years older than I am who have no interest in any of this music and likely never will! People who write books about music like to try to connect the musical trends of a certain time to the social/political atmosphere of the era in question. In my personal opinion, that connection overgeneralizes things and doesn't really go very far. It's just revisionism, and detracts from the artistic acheivements of the musicians themselves. Furthermore, individual accounts of that time are just that - individual accounts. They err on the side of specificity where the aforementioned music writers are too general in their assessments. Anyone looking for an logical explanation as to why so much amazing music came out circa '78-'82 is wasting their time. But that's only my opinion. And just for the record, Ned is the same age as I am.

Again, my point here is just that to continually change the contents of the briefcase isn't the most fair or considerate way to go about things, and I think it actually detracts (sadly) from how great the set is AS IT IS. It means you have more respect for people who wouldn't care about these things than for those who would. I find this puzzling since obviously you are a collector of the era yourself and were in a similar situation, you would be one of those people who cared! I can only explain this behaviour by supposing it all stems from your obvious inferiority complex. From what I can tell you are every bit as knowledgeable as the average ILMer if not more so. There is no need for you to be so self-deprecating - as I noticed two people tried to point out to you upthread as regards the opening two paragraphs of your liner notes.

I know of even one ILMer who is 5 years younger than yourself and quite knowledgeable in his own right, yet he feels no need for such self-deprecation.

So again, I just think to continually change the set is a bad idea and shows disrespect for people. You may feel different, but don't be surprised when people are unhappy.

Furthermore: you claimed you were sharing the new Briefcase folder on slsk. I tried browsing your files tonight as an experiment because I had not been able to browse them before and this is the first time I've tried since installing the new version of the program. I don't plan on d/l from you, but for the sake of anyone else who might want to - I don't see that you are sharing that folder like you said you would. Hence, it seems that you are showing further disrespect for people who might care about these things.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 April 2005 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not going to read all that, but as you'll notice I put "being there" in quotes any time I mention it--meaning it's not something I take seriously, and it's something that I find interesting but hardly important. Of course it's elusive, but if it has a basic meaning, it's that someone was conscious of this music at the time of its release, or maybe a bit more by being somehow involved with it on a cultural level. As I said in the liner notes, it's probably something someone who "was there" finds adds to the music, but it's not necessary for an appreciation for the music. Not much of a status symbol.

Beyond that, as far as I can tell you're the only person who has any problem with me making changes to the set--especially given that I've offered to "update" anyone who wants to.

As for the folder being shared on soulseek, it was; my shared folders were reset; and I forgot to add it. It's now shared, but since you're in a huff and won't be downloading any of it out of some weird protest of something or other, I guess you don't care.

I welcome criticisms of my selections; debates about the ethicality of such an undertaking as this set; the worth/unimportance of understanding the cultural milieu; or any number of ephemeral subjects related to this music. But whatever has upset you is so unclear that I doubt, after all your words expended on the subject, none of us understands what is the matter. Frankly, I doubt it's of any interest.

Moving on, please.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 April 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

This briefcase you've compiled looks excellent. I know you must have a big backlog but I'd love to get a copy if possible. Let me know if it still is and how I compensate you for your efforts.

Thanks in advance.

-Bill

Bill Garretson, Sunday, 17 April 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

And just for the record, Ned is the same age as I am.

Look, can I be left out of this, please? FWIW, Bimble, I think you've acted very poorly here, as I'm sure I've indicated.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 17 April 2005 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Received the set Friday. I'm three discs in. The set is amazing. I had a gathering at the pad and had it on and everyone is gaga for it. Just want to say well done, and thanks for the hard work.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., I've received mine now and it is a beautiful, awe-inspring thing, thankyou. give me a few weeks to get through it and i'll let you know what i think. i already think it is pretty much the best thing i've ever got in the post :-)

pete b. (pete b.), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

bimble..., you are a bit weird.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i also got this set in the mail on Friday, and I've been spending the weekend enjoying it. Aside from the historical aspect of the whole thing, it's simply a really good listen--I don't think I've come across a bad track yet. the effort that was obviously put into sequencing really paid off, and the individual discs have a cohesive feel to them without being overly same-y. I'm only about four discs into it, but it's been great so far. i'll be back with some other comments as I make my way through 1981! thanks IM for offering this up to everybody.

tylerw, Sunday, 17 April 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

well, I was loving this for a week until a rock was thrown through a friend's car's window and it (along with my laptop, iPod, camera) was stolen. On the plus side, they obviously appreciated my backpack's contents enough to defecate next to the car.

Can you put me back on the waiting list, I.M? I'd like to replace this, and it's certainly worth $26.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

bimble.. really now? you are a disgrace to this whole affair.

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Tyler ---

I'm glad you appreciate it on a stand-alone-mix level. That much music put across any other way would probably be overwhelming, and not very accessible as anything other than an historical documen---and this music is so very alive to me, I'd have hated to present it that way. Hope the next five mixes (and 12 hours of "bonus" material) hold up : )


Stephen ---

That fucking sucks, I'm sorry to hear. I'll put you on the waiting list again. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help--did you lost any music permanently? Or just iPod/laptop copies?

As for what I can make out of Bimble's complaint, I guess I just don't subscribe to his notion that the people who contacte me first about the set are per se those who will enjoy it "most". Therefore, I don't see any reason that people later along should miss out just because I realised late into the process that I could fit another three hours of music on the appendix disc; and I don't see any reason people who already got their sets (like Bimble) should feel excluded, as I've offered to send replacement discs for the cost of shipping. Where the set now stands is basically the definitive version--I can't fit anything more. My aim is just to get the music heard.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Unfortunately I went a little crazy on the iTunes music store these last couple weeks and (like a fool) didn't back anything up. I've made up my mind not to worry about any of the music downloaded off slsk or other P2P's, but I guess this kind of served to remind me how buying files of songs online doesn't compare with buying the actual product.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Stephen ---

I'd wondered about that, having never done any iTunes type stuff. If the file gets deleted/lost/stolen, do you have no recourse? Can you not download it again, having paid for the license?

I'm definitely still staunchly materialist about music, for better or worse.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

As for what I can make out of Bimble's complaint, I guess I just don't subscribe to his notion that the people who contacte me first about the set are per se those who will enjoy it "most".

I originally thought he was complaining about your statement that the 71 "extra" tracks were cut due to space limitations, when in fact he's claiming that you didn't even know about (at least some of) those 71 tracks until after you finished the set.

No matter which story is correct, obviously you're going to be a magnet for all things 1981. People will send you lots of stuff from 1981, wondering if you've heard it or not, and it's natural that you would want to update the set with some of this extra material. After all, you said from the start that your choices were subjective and you had no intention of covering all the bases.

So basically, revisions/additions to the set are not only unsurprising, but expected.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 April 2005 03:00 (eighteen years ago) link

And it's so nothing to sweat over. Consider -- the original Nuggets set was only an initial overview, but as the many similar sets since then showed, that was scratching the surface. This, by default, is even more overwhelming in its scope than Nuggets was, but it STILL isn't everything, and never could be. If differing editions come out, they come out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link

For whatever reason, PayPal isn't making your addresses the reply-to when it notifies me of payment. So I haven't been able to write and confirm that I've got your payment. But I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who is contacting me in such a timely fashion re: my email from yesterday.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Sent out 26 today, so a bunch of you should have yours soon.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Got your email - thanks so much! Now I have to work out if my PayPal is set up right and if I can remember the password.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I have just about finished listening to the mp3 disc and can only once again echo my praise. This really is something of a landmark, and the sheer joy and knowledge both I've gained from it has been quite lovely. I.M., you've done grand. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link


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