"Born to Run" by Bruce Springsteen -- who really enjoys this overproduced crappy glop?

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Hasn't the New Cole Porter similarly fizziped fizzoped on other artists he once dissed, such as the Grateful Dead? Assuming I am correct about the original quote, that is.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

elvis costello loves springsteen!! he even did a cover of "brilliant disguise" (it was a boring cover).

i'm dreading some anti-costello and -springsteen comment following on this post's heels.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

This is not an anti-Elvis comment from me (for those look elsewhere), but he probably admits to liking Ray Charles these days as well.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

uh, didn't EC actually PLAY with the Dead (or at least Jerry Garcia) sometime back in the late 80s (Spike era?) on SNL or something? I'm not aware of him ever harboring any dislike for them...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 January 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

he was certainly LOOKING LIKE jerry garcia back in the spike era.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost:
I'm telling you, I was there, man! He used to joke about selling his old man's Dead records because he needed the bread. No wait, I remember now. He sold Ross McManus's Grateful Dead records and used the money to buy Marvin Gaye records.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link

dude elvis costello recorded a song for a dead tribute album! although i think he said he only likes two or three of their records.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm gonna try one more time. He may like these groups now, he may have liked them then. But as far as the kind of shit he was talking back in the day it was a different story. Of course, I have as yet no factual evidence to back this up and no old geezer has showed up on this thread to confirm it so there is the possibility I'm totally talking out my asshat, but so be it.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

i bet john lydon liked the beatles too!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

he even did a cover of "brilliant disguise" (it was a boring cover).

That's `cos it's a boring song to begin with. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still going to be a pig.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost:
I never thought I would or could say this in a million years, but now I now how chuck feels, at least in one corner of his chuckness.

xxpost:
Hell yeah

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Broken link

― Henry A Blacktune (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Very funny. You should really remember to log off before you do that, guy.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess this thread has now become my solo show. I don't even have my equivalent of Steve Nieve to interfere with my vision.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

m@tt has a good point. all irish musicians, up to and including bob geldof, are bruce springsteen in one way or another.

Anyone care to compare/contrast Springsteen with Van Morrison?

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I have three words for you:
"Streets of Fire."

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

elvis costello loves springsteen!! he even did a cover of "brilliant disguise" (it was a boring cover).

See also 10,000 Maniacs. So what was it that Costello was supposed to bring to Springsteen appreciation again?

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I started it with these words:"One more thing, Macca collaborator Elvis Costello dissed the Boss back in the day"

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The first time to make the thread sick, and the second just now to kill it. But don't these spells usually require a threefold invocation?

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

On a music-related board, isn't there a Godwin's Law type of thing about mentioning Natalie Merchant? Cause I was trying to help out, you see?

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

For those not inclined to click the link, which is apparently everybody:
I was never very taken with psychedelic music - my dad went a bit psychedelic around the edges, about 1968. He grew his hair quite long; he used to give me Grateful Dead records, and "Surrealistic Pillow". I'd keep them for a couple weeks, and sell them at the record exchange and buy Marvin Gaye records.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Or this link
with this quote
The prospect of being compared to Springsteen, whose panavision scenarios - replete with so much obvious romantic, rock-mythology imagery of a kind quite antithetical to Costello's writing - fills Elvis with anguish and dread. "Springsteen always romanticising the f----- street," he complains, with no little justification. "I'm bored with people who romanticise the f------- street. The street isn't f--------- attractive.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

But that was then
and this is now

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

everyone knows that the american musician that elvis costello most resembles (nowadays at least) is billy joel, not bruce springsteen. we've even had threads on this insight!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 8 January 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

though to be fair, springsteen "discovered" burt bacharach before elvis costello did (it was called tunnel of love).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 8 January 2005 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost:
Shakey Mo and amateurist, I think you owe me an apology. But Shakey, since 95% of your posts are so otm, and since amateurist, I admire your hopeless romantic quest to untangle all the tangled prose in the Universal Library of Rockcrit, I'll let it go this time.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Repost of the Elvis Costello melody maker link ( so it's not pointing to the google cache!)
http://www.elviscostello.info/articles/m/melody_maker.770625a.html

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link

What an unpleasant little man.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i like "brilliant disguise"

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link

nate, I am going to assume you are talking about Punch The Clock Costello. In any case I apologize to Alex for ruining his thread with all this rubbish.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 07:58 (nineteen years ago) link

what am i apologizing to you for?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 8 January 2005 08:46 (nineteen years ago) link

In any case I apologize to Alex for ruining his thread with all this rubbish.

Oh please. Like I haven't ruined other peoples' threads before? `Tis the way of ILX.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 January 2005 08:48 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost:
Nothing. I was just fooling around.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

though to be fair, springsteen "discovered" burt bacharach before elvis costello did (it was called tunnel of love).

but, um, costello was covering bacharach in the '70s. see "i just don't know what to do with myself" from live stiffs (1978). or "baby it's you" from a few years later.

as for tunnel of love -- what exactly does that have to do with bacharach?

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Costello (at least in that interview) seems pretty gripey and obnoxious.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Saturday, 8 January 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

he was 22!!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, the "young and stupid" defense.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, I got an idea. For any further discussion of this guy, revive one of the nineteen extant threads about him. Like this one: Is Elvis Costello rock?

― Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 9 January 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

revive! agreeing-with-alex-in-nyc shockah! the overwrought vocals, the ridiculous saxophone! the exclamation points!

― marc h. (marc h.), Thursday, 1 September 2005 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree too. I was always perplexed and somewhat bothered by the disconnect between Springsteen's working-class-hero status and the fact that all his E Street Band anthems embody the worst of 80s mainstream production excess (stupid synths, horrible gated drum sound, icky saxophone soloing). Even his famed Telecaster is rendered completely toothless on most of this stuff.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 1 September 2005 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link

B-b-but this is from '75 (and doesn't feature synths IIRC).

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 1 September 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Fantastic song.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 1 September 2005 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link

God, this song rules.

― internet comedy novice (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 1 September 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Even his famed Telecaster is rendered completely toothless on most of this stuff.

True in the studio stuff. But live is another story. There's an absolutely blistering solo on "Because The Night" on the famous Cleveland boot from 1975 (or is it '78? Can't recall...). I was taken aback first time I heard it since you don't really encounter anything close to that sound on his studio output. But the guy can really turn it up a notch when he's on stage.

― PB, Thursday, 1 September 2005 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex in nyc is a fuckin MORON.BTR rules.GREAT instrumental interlude
with semitones goin UP and dowwwwn.

Maybe a fembot fudge-packing faggot like alex in nyc
would prefer Frankie goes to hollywood's
version...

― Anti-Alexinnyc, Thursday, 1 September 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

RELAX

― internet comedy novice (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 1 September 2005 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link

True in the studio stuff. But live is another story.

I haven't heard much Bruce live but this sounds entirely right...

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 1 September 2005 06:35 (eighteen years ago) link

So has anybody hear ever heard Sprinsteen's pre-debut-album alleged metal band, Steel Town or Steel Factory or whatever the hell they were called? I just finished a great book on the history of Asbury Park itself, and Springsteen's own early history figured prominently, so I'm kind of intrigued. Did they sound like the first Iron City Houserockers album or Thin Lizzy or something? I sure hope so. But maybe they just sucked.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 September 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Je regret rien.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 September 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Je NE regret rien.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 September 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

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