John Cale S/D

oh it's been officially released. i got it from amazon.

I got it from my local shop.

thx

Yeah, it's pretty damn good. Maybe just a bit passed his prime (I want more 70s live Cale!) but still, some amazing psycho versions, especially "Waiting For My Man".

yeah the waiting for the man on the first disc is a pretty wild reinterpretation -- puts the pounding (almost steve reich-y) piano at the forefront. and then goes off into weirdland with his rant about south america and coffee beans.

Just got this. Thanks for the tip.

Someone should release the "Even cowgirls..." boot!!!

is that a bootleg? it *sounds* like a bootleg, but I thought it was a semi-official release. great stuff, anyway.

The man needs a proper box set for crying out loud! Is this what happens when the record labels fold? Ah well, I made my own anyway!

you got a tracklisting for your box set?
i guess the only real career spanning set is seducing down the door, which is just two discs and came out, when, 1992?

I listen to that live German TV version of "Dying on the Vine" at least once a week.

i guess the only real career spanning set is seducing down the door, which is just two discs and came out, when, 1992?

The Island Years, collecting Fear, Slow Dazzle, and Helen of Troy, is essential, but out of print. I got it from Columbia House for 99 cents in '98.

yeah the island years is great. like gerald, i'd love to hear a good live show from that era. i have a couple pretty dismal (sound quality-wise) bootlegs.

Me too.
I think there was Chris Spedding on guitar, shows must have been crazy, especially around the release of Helen of Troy.

I picked up the New York In The 60's box set the other day. It'll probably take me a while to get my head around it, but I think I'll ultimately be able to do business with it. Seems like a good gateway into the world of the drone.

yeah the ny 60s stuff is not for the faint at heart, but some of it is great.
one thing i dig about the live 80s set is how brutal/simple cale's guitar playing is. obviously he's an incredibly skilled musician, but when it comes to guitar, he really just wants to pound on the thing.

He was still playing that way when I saw him do an instore at J&R Music World last year! It probably works better when the sun goes down.

But I guess I like Velvets viola-droning Cale, melodic Paris 1919 ivory-tickling Cale, gonzo live show/Tanglewood hatchet-wielding Cale, and don't really like Cosby-sweater-wearing guitar-bashing Cale.

hey y'all I have been obsessively collecting Cale boots from the Cowgirls era for a while now

Dallas '79 is an incredible soundboard that blows Cowgirls away, and there is a Philadelphia AUD recording that's pretty decent. Also the whole CGGB set that most of Cowgirls is taken from has been floating around as MP3s.

I'll put 'em up on the blog, shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com... gimme a couple of hours though.

yes please

woohoo

awesomeee

OK all done, have at it. I'd love to hear what people think of these shows.

Holy shit -- I've been dying to hear Cowgirls-era Cale forever but all that's been officially released from that era was...well, Cowgirls.

I suppose I can just wait for you to post it, but do any of these dates include "Fucking the Neighbor's Wife"?

no but wow @ that title, never heard of it.

Ok, I suppose I overstated myself - I like to supplement best-ofs that I feel are too stingy, like Cale's "Seducing Down The Door". You should already have "The Island Years" as everything there is prime Cale, not to be skipped. I'm also quite partial to his album with Eno and the "Sabotage/Live" album is killer (the CD with the "Animal Justice" EP tacked on). As it happened I had a terrific set of C90 tapes a friend had made when I first got into Cale and I pulled off the unique tracks from that as well as adding some of my own. So here's my disc 3 of "Seducing":

1. Cleo (Vintage Violence)
2. Hello There (Vintage Violence)
3. The Soul Of Patrick Lee (The Church Of Anthrax)
4. Church Of Anthrax (The Church Of Anthrax)
5. The Philosopher (The Academy In Peril)
6. Dance Of The Seven Veils (Even Cowgirls Get The Blues)
7. Don't Know Why She Came (Even Cowgirls Get The Blues)
8. Streets Of Laredo (Honi Soit)
9. Honi Soit (Honi Soit)
10. Magic & Lies (Honi Suit)
11. I Keep A Close Watch (new version) (Music For A New Society)
12. Praetorian Underground (Caribbean Sunset)
13. Never Give Up On You (Comes Alive)
14. Heartbreak Hotel (Comes Alive)
15. Fadeaway Tomorrow (Artificial Intelligence)
16. Black Rose (Artificial Intelligence)
17. Satellite Walk (Artificial Intelligence)
18. She Never Took No For An Answer (Sid & Nancy soundtrack)
19. There Was A Saviour - Interlude I (Words For The Dying)
20. Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night (Words For The Dying)
21. Songs Without Words II (Words For The Dying)
22. Style It Takes (Songs For Drella)
23. Forever Changed (Songs For Drella(
24. Hallelujah (I'm Your Fan compilation)
25. Frozen Warnings (Nico:Icon film)

I cheated, that's more than a single CD's worth. Gotta say, when I go back to the full 80s albums, I think they're mostly great and deserve a real reissue but I expect if we haven't seen it yet we never will.

oh wait looks like I was wrong, it's on the CBGB's set (xp)

setlists:

Dallas '79 - 4/21/79 "great SB, Palladium, Dallas" Rare tape transfer, kind of a weird mix, with vocals mostly right channel, guitar left, but otherwise a clear SBD of a wonderful show, great companion to Sabotage and Even Cowgirls, alt. Lyrics for Baby and Cowgirls; Tracks: 1. Walking the Dog / 2. Mercenaries / 3. Baby You Know / 4. Guts / 5. Evidence / 6. Dr. Mudd / 7. Even Cowgirls Get the Blues / 8. Waiting for the Man / 9. Fear / 10. Chorale / 11. Leaving It Up to You / 12. Heartbreak Hotel / 13. Cable Hogue (inc. ending)

JOHN CALE
THE HOT CLUB, PHILADELPHIA, PA, USA
March 9, 1979
AUDIENCE RECORDING BY THE BIG A
SONY D6>1ST GEN CASSETTE>STAND ALONE BURNER>WAV>FLAC
SETLIST:
01. mercenaries
02. baby you know
03. casey at the bat
04. jack the ripper at the moulin rouge
05. i don't know why she came
06. evidence
07. guts
08. i'm waiting for the man
09. dirty ass rock and roll
10. heartbreak hotel

CBGB's 1978:
1 Dance Of The Seven Veils 05:01
2 Helen Of Troy 04:57
3 Casey At The Bat 05:29
4 Guts 04:02
5 Don't Know Why She Came 04:34
6 Taking It All Away 03:04
7 Even Cowgirls Get The Blues 07:14
8 Darling I Need You 03:51
9 Mercenaries 08:04
10 Neighbour's Wife 04:41
11 Heartbreak Hotel 03:56
12 Pablo Picasso 09:38

Crap, I have OS X 10.4.11, which xACT doesn't work on. Any chance you could post the first two of these as mp3s?

Use this and convert them yourself:

http://download.cnet.com/All2MP3/3000-2140_4-190407.html

Works like a charm and you don't need to to convert them to AIFF as a between step.

Thanks for sharing these Sleeve! Been on a big Cale kick and can't wait to hear 'em.

Great suggestion!

weird I run the same OS, but I have a much older version of xACT, guess I better not update it.

These are great, btw. Love hearing this material with decent sound. The version of "Fear" on Dallas is absolutely bonkers and fantastic. "Chorale" I've never heard -- love the harmonica.

I always thought this would be a fascinating era to write about. I think it was inspired by reading some review of Sabotage somewhere (Trouser Press Record Guide maybe?) that basically said that by the time that record came out Cale's schtick had become something of a parody of itself -- that his music had taken on a heavy metal sound and that the real deal was what he was doing in '77-78, a lot of which (a la "Fucking the Neighbor's Wife" and "Dance of the Seven Veils") never came out on the studio records. Just kind of a "mythical" era in some ways.

Thankig u

sleeve many thanks for these!

here's to Mr. X:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHIqMmtS-0

Wow.

Only a matter of time for that Marvin/Tammi show performance to turn up?

I did see that Pete Best one (have it on a bootvhs), but that's for another thread...

ach, go on then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToLZewcgIK8

thanks, sleeve!

oh and hey Gerald -- is Cale's version of Frozen Warnings available anywhere? is there a sdtk for that movie? i feel like i had an mp3 of that song but it was just recorded directly off a vhs copy or something.

I don't think it's available, I got it from a vid too!

gonna check out that German live album. circa when, 1982? I saw the Sabotage tour in '79 and it was indeed awesome, metal guitar player but the rest of the band was punky & Cale was a glowering PRESENCE.

never heard cale's 1975 peel sesh til now -- great performance and sound quality! wonder why this has never been released? fruitierthanthou.blogspot.com/2010/10/john-cale-john-peel-session-1st-may.html

posted this on a john cale thread on some board called de subjectiven or some shit. meant for it to be on ILM.
new ep on domino forthcoming! preview clip sounds ... kind of great? http://www.dominorecordco.com/uk/landingpage/15-07-11/john-cale-extra-playful-ep

I haven't heard his last few albums in full (just bits) but this is decidedly the best thing I've heard from him in 20 years!

yeah me too, i've always meant to check out his more recent albums, but just haven't. this is really promising.

did just listen to music for a new society this morning. what a brutal album.

I enjoyed the Circus Live disc from a few years back. It had a couple of cuts from the recent records and they fit in well.

This preview though sounds really great.

hobosapiens is good.

and that '5 tracks' ep.