Rush: Classic or Dud?

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I think this happens because they are in marketing overdrive and are trying to cash in in the biggest way possible while they still can. I'm pretty sure the tour DVDs sell way more copies than their actual studio albums.

Moodles, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

omg ne ohio is totally gonna flip out -- i have never lived an area more densely packed with rush fans than northeast ohio

― ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I think they are pretty huge throughout the Great Lakes, upper midwest. I grew up in Chicago, and they were utterly huge there. Cant imagine much has changed.

The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

What the fuck is that guy doing in my post.

The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

According to Neil Peart, studio albums have basically become vanity projects for them that they just break even on, while they rake in ridiculous sums of money for touring.

Still, yeah I agree with you Tarfumes, I'd be much more excited to hear Clockwork Angels than another tour album.

Moodles, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i was wondering the same thing

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

today's variation...

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm just wondering what region "uppermdet" refers to

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

hacked the sub out. Uppper what, Bill Magill?

Krap$ha (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

midwest?

brownie, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah it must be. Fixed.

clang honk tweet (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

my der beek

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I want more haikus.

NYCNative, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

According to Neil Peart, studio albums have basically become vanity projects for them that they just break even on, while they rake in ridiculous sums of money for touring.

Still, yeah I agree with you Tarfumes, I'd be much more excited to hear Clockwork Angels than another tour album.

― Moodles, Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:02 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

I totally get that (about the studio albums), but pretty soon they're gonna run out of studio recordings to recycle live ("It's the first time they're doing all of Hold Your FIre live!"). And it's not like the live shows are much different from the studio recordings. Lifeson has said that, when he saw Cream live as a teenager, he was disappointed that they didn't play the same solos as on the records; as such, he's tried to never (or barely) stray from the recordings when playing live.

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

That's true, Rush is never going to deviate much from the studio recordings in their live performances. They are all about trying to recreate those songs as faithfully as possible right down to doing the same drum fills and guitar solos. It's an unusual approach, but also interensting in a way because it becomes this challenge to play the songs in an extremely specific way, and part of the joy of seeing them is being able to confirm that yes indeed, they do play all of those songs exactly as you would imagine they would.

I'm pretty down with this approach with one big exception: they've taken up the practice of playing canned backing vocals and extra guitar tracks on lots of their newer songs. I think it's an unnecessary step that doesn't really add much.

Moodles, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Canned, perhaps, but still triggered live, no? Foot pedals and whatnot?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Possibly, not really sure, not sure that there really is a difference if they are triggered by Rush or not. I'm not real thrilled when Alex Lifeson lipsyncs vocals.

Moodles, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Two dates in my neck of the woods. Thanks for this great news!

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

looks like the production on Vapor Trails is finally going to be fixed

http://ww2.richardchycki.com/archives/166

Edward Bax, Sunday, 13 February 2011 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh cool!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 13 February 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link

also Moving Pictures in surround (but I'm more interested in seeing Vapor Trails fixed...)

http://ww2.richardchycki.com/archives/167

Edward Bax, Sunday, 13 February 2011 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Sweet!

Songwise Vapor Trails is a great album, but the over-loud and distorted mix makes it a very difficult listen.

Moodles, Sunday, 13 February 2011 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Rush: tank(a) or haiku?

t**t, Sunday, 13 February 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

My wife loves The Cure
Played her new wave-era Rush
Still, she hates them so

NYCNative, Sunday, 13 February 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

very interested in this remix of vapor trails!

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 February 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Those synths on Signals?
That "trapped in Tron" atmosphere?
Rush revival looms.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

So it sounds like we won't see Clockwork Angels this year after all:

In January 2011, Lifeson told in an interview with Guitarist Magazine that, due to the extension of the Time Machine Tour, the release of the album will be delayed. Writing the final 2 or 3 songs required will resume in early 2011, with recording resuming after summer.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

All these years and albums later and I still have no idea how this band actually writes songs. Is this one of the few acts with no outtakes or demos bootlegs?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

This site:

http://www.rushtrader.com/news.htm

...seems to be all live shows but maybe something's tucked away in there.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

Some quick googling reveals Rush as virtually nil in the leftovers and rarities department. If it gets recorded, it gets on the record. There's some quote from Geddy about the record company being really disappointed if they all die in a plane crash, because there's nothing in the vaults.

Still, I'm surprised there are no alternate versions floating around.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OfbBn8Fuaw

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Actually, come to think of it, I recall the Rush doc featuring a snippet of "Tom Sawyer" done at twice the speed.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

They were playing a polka version of Closer To The Heart after the show in London tonight, maybe that'll turn up somewhere for the collectors.

Bass Solo (Matt #2), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

Over the PA I mean, they weren't playing it live, although there was a polka-ish intro to La Villa Strangiato

Bass Solo (Matt #2), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, the tempo on that pre-release "Tom Sawyer" is lurching all over the place. Surprising.

Dodo Lurker (Slim and Slam), Thursday, 26 May 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

We have tickets for the June 26th Time Machine show in Concord...weee I'm so excited, my first Rush concert!

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 May 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, really weird to hear a different guitar solo on "Tom Sawyer." I know Lifeson's thing was to always do the same solo as on the record, so without a record as such, it's interesting to hear him wing it.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 May 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link

Saw my first Rush show in Dublin two weeks ago. I went in only knowing the hits (y'know, Spirit and Radio and all that) but I came out a fan. Wish we didn't have standing tickets, though - 3 hours on my feet was rough.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 26 May 2011 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

Spirit AND Radio? Where's my head today? Of course that AND should be an OF.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 26 May 2011 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, they won me over in a big way when I saw 'em at MSG a little while back.

that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 26 May 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link

Great chatterbox interview and track-by-track evaluation of Moving Pictures by the oft recalcitrant Neil Peart:

http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/show-music/neil-peart-on-moving-pictures-track-by-track.html

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 June 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

saw them two nights in a row during one of those 90s tours. it was religious

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, that's a great interview with Peart. Rush=class acts.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

My best friend from high school will be flying in to Austin from Seattle this weekend and we are going to see Rush at the Frank Erwin Center Sunday night. During the 90s, we were in a band together which started off as a Rush cover band back in HS.

Moodles, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Letterman last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWyABiUpihs&feature=player_embedded

Moodles, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Having seen the band live several times now, I'm convinced that at least 50% of his set exists for the (very composed) solo. When you see how he approaches the songs proper, you can see how he's become a very efficient player.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

holy moly

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 10 June 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

that sucked

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 10 June 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

sure if you hate drum train one man jazz bands

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 10 June 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link


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