"The Wire" on HBO

i actually think the first 3 or 4 seasons are solid and have some gr8 writing/acting, for a network show at least. but then this fucker pops up and its all downhill from there

http://www.classictvhits.com/cast/1870.jpg

iirc homicide is entertaining but it really has the fontana touch - super-catholic, earnestly liberal in a somewhat dated feeling way - the acting's prob better than The Wire, all things told

it's more of a network show is all.

i only saw the first 3 seasons, come to think of it

Homicide's dialogue in the first few seasons is right on...or at least I remember it being that way. Haven't rewatched in a while.

yeah i was gonna say, it's pleasing to watch in the way that a really good cop show is

And yeah, I don't think I saw it all the way through, I stoppped after maybe S3?

andre braugher as pembleton is p unfuckwithable

It was sort of groundbreaking for its time but hasn't aged especially well. But there are great scenes and episodes.

+ yaphet kotto

andre braugher as pembleton is p unfuckwithable

― am0n, Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:21 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

'black & blue' episode where he convinces the kid who didnt shoot someone that hes guilty in the interrogation room is amazing. I DID THIS FOR YOU GEE. best TV ever

season one fyi

YES YOU DID
YOU KILLED HIM

YOU PUT THE BULLET OUT THERE

when homicide's good, it's as good as any other cop drama you'd care to name -- but it also had some horrible, horrible episodes. i haven't watched the whole series tho.

been re-watching homicide this winter. man if u think wire's season 5 is bad...

― am0n, Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

i am only two discs into season one and think it's classic/best show ever created. better than the wire by far. i'll have to check the book out.
― ghetty green (eman), Friday, August 5, 2005 12:16 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark

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is that the whistler? xpost

/buffy geek

been re-watching homicide this winter. man if u think wire's season 5 is bad...

― am0n, Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

i am only two discs into season one and think it's classic/best show ever created. better than the wire by far. i'll have to check the book out.
― ghetty green (eman), Friday, August 5, 2005 12:16 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark

― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:29 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he said he was talking about the later seasons

I wasn't talking to you. Just assume that I'm never talking to you.

how are you unbanned exactly

http://www.pyngo.com/content/images/pyngo/images/screen_question2.jpg

Interesting question *slowly raises a mirror to your face*

i loved homicide but i was kinda always comparing it to nypd blue, which seemed to be a lot more humorless and backwards-thinking w/r/t style and topic (beyond america getting its long desired fleeting glimpse of the butt of dennis franz.) but it did get lame with the arrival of the jon seda seasons.

i always thought the initial core bunch of detectives was pretty awesome. melissa leo was always kinda underrated, i liked her character just because she was so awkward and strange and original.

doesnt ****spoilerz**** Gee get shot in the last episode or something? what was the deal w/ that

yeah & polito was fantastic too

Homicide is awesome for like the 3 episodes and then divebombs rapidly when they start moving away from material in the book - e.g. I think episode 4 has this bizarre segment where Yaphet Kotto flips out over asbestos or something and it is just baffling.

i am only two discs into season one and think it's classic/best show ever created. better than the wire by far. i'll have to check the book out.
― ghetty green (eman), Friday, August 5, 2005 12:16 AM (5 years ago)

i prob don't agree w/ eman's 5 yr old "best show ever" claim but i do think pembleton >>>>>> most wire characters. i did read the book eventually.

xp what was baffling about it? i dont remember it seeming particularly weird? maybe im remembering wrong

yeah i was tempted to say earlier that pembleton's probably better than any Wire character - dont hold me to that though

pembleton having a stroke and being not at full strength for a couple seasons police skills-wise was kinda like putting han solo on endor imo but what can you do

thats season 5 i think, it def got worse towards the end to much greater degree than the wire did

i think i still haven't watched the homicide movie. i've heard its terrible

xp what was baffling about it? i dont remember it seeming particularly weird? maybe im remembering wrong

I mean it was baffling in tone, not that it was a confusing plot point or anything. Like we went from this really intense high-stakes interrogation scene in the previous episode to concerns about asbestos levels in the next.

Nevertheless, in its attempt to improve Homicide's ratings, NBC often insisted on changes, both cosmetic and thematic. For example, by the beginning of the third season, talented but unphotogenic veteran actor Jon Polito had been ordered dropped from the cast. At around this same time, the network also began clamoring for more on-screen romance and violence. In order to have episodes NBC considered more eye-catching air during "sweeps" periods, it sometimes aired them out of order, often to the detriment of story arcs that had developed over several episodes or even entire seasons.

;_; love unphotogenic jon polito

and i remember getting a goofy rush as s2 got rolling and the crew started reassembling like a long drawn out act 1 of a heist movie where they 'assemble the old gang' and it was like awwwwwwww yeah

― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, January 17, 2011 10:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

thought this was corny as all hell, tbh, but w/e

hoos liking corny stuff?

; )

last season of homicide is incredibly bad. I've never made it through more than a handful of eps.

still love the series as a whole, tho.

the show is VERY of its time (silverchair song in a montage! double-take edits!) but the lineup changes are, by far, the biggest problem with the show. the cast is constantly in flux and the new characters are almost always a step down from the ones they are replacing. less likable, more cardboard, all of that. by the time (uh, spoilers I guess?) pembelton leaves and some model chick joins the crew in his place, there's an unmistakable void hanging over everything. NO FUN.

the book is pretty different and definitely worth reading.

nevertheless, I think the book and the show both have an addictive procedural quality to them.

i always thought the initial core bunch of detectives was pretty awesome. melissa leo was always kinda underrated, i liked her character just because she was so awkward and strange and original.

― omar little, Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

otm

"some model chick" = mcnulty's wife!

o yeah and the final season has giancarlo esposito (gus from breaking bad) as gee's jheri-curled son lol

wait, not that model chick. this model chick:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005230/

did not realize that was gus! gus rules I really despise the homicide character he plays.

'Getting the band back together' is usually good times in any movie/tv show. I'm surprised How I Met Your Mother hasn't used that for an episode yet.

o yeah and the final season has giancarlo esposito (gus from breaking bad) as gee's jheri-curled son lol

― am0n, Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Whoa!! i knew id seen dude before

he's been around for years, he's pretty dope.

one more thing I hate about the last season of homicide: EVERYBODY IS DATING.

Nevertheless, in its attempt to improve Homicide's ratings, NBC often insisted on changes, both cosmetic and thematic. For example, by the beginning of the third season, talented but unphotogenic veteran actor Jon Polito had been ordered dropped from the cast.

he barely made it to the start of season three.

but the show was still good at that point.