"The Wire" on HBO

oh i was thinking its what dude said about snot boogie

my confusion -- ok, well, coming from a junkie living in a shitty neighborhood i think the point still stands?

like, if the dude bubbles is based on said that to me i dont think id roll my eyes but maybe u are a different kind of dude

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif

*damn* eyes

every thread now, guys?

― u aint messin w/ my dengue (gr8080), Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:35 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

hi gr80 were discussing the wire

yeah we're at least still on topic...FOR NOW

im not even sure were beefing abt anything at the moment

ok just making sure you guys stay in line

i like Chris.

This scene is the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycWx9ni6dZE

Aw, I like Namond's mom as a character - granted she is also a horrible person

She isn't likeable, but I like watching her - I feel the same way about Rawls - they take such joy in being assholes

i think "thin line 'tween heaven and here" was said by bubbles several SEASONS later, actually

and i agree with some dude that it's one of the times i actually agree is an overwritten line

seriously? im really confused about whats 'overwritten' about it -- feels totally believable & like the kind of thing u can totally imagine someone saying -- pretty sure junkies have said similar profundities to me while begging for change iirc -- seems like pretty natural kind of thing from anyone who may have spent time being raised in the church

(& who lives in the slums)

my top 5 chars (at this exact moment):

vondas
omar
bubbles
mcnulty
and i have a soft spot for bodie

it's not that i couldn't imagine anyone saying it, just seemed forced from bubs in that particular scene

you've seen the show, right?

yeah bodie is up there for me too

you're all forgetting Stringer Bell

tgheres only room for 5!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe i'd bump omar off for string, he gets enough love anyway

Bodie is the goods, but I can't get him into my 5

it's not that i couldn't imagine anyone saying it, just seemed forced from bubs in that particular scene

you've seen the show, right?

― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, January 17, 2011 3:50 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kev i was responding to

if a real life street dude said "thin line 'tween heaven and here" i'd roll my eyes at him too

― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, January 17, 2011 12:20 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idg how you guys are still talking about that line, lol

yeah - deej pretty otm here - there are scenes and exchanges that might feel heavy-handed, but to argue that street dudes and drug dealers couldn't possibly articulate such pithy truths _is_ definitely condescending and patronizing.

and if i had to pick a Top 5 favorite characters:

Bunk
Bunny Colvin
Kimmy
Brianna Barksdale
Norman

Bunny's been a semi-regular on Burn Notice as a bad guy, everytime I see him I miss Bunny so much lol

bunny & snoop were both on my shortlist

Tray Chaney aka "Poot" has a music career now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL6Fu2rO-Dw

bunk is absolutely #1 for me ... ummm past that i guess mcnulty, freamon, bodie, omar (duh)

Tray Chaney aka "Poot" has a music career now
http://www.youtube.com/v/HL6Fu2rO-Dw&fs=1&hl=en

― gr8080, Monday, January 17, 2011 4:12 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

highly disappointed he doesnt still go by 'poot'

kimmy really

Slim Charles.

Slim
Bunk
Frank Sobotka
Bodie
Lester

bunk #1

i think "thin line 'tween heaven and here" was said by bubbles several SEASONS later, actually

and i agree with some dude that it's one of the times i actually agree is an overwritten line

― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, January 17, 2011 4:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nah it was in episode 4 of the first season, 3 episodes after Snot Boogie

hm yeah you're right, think i'm conflating a couple scenes

lol my problem w/ the opening scene isn't the corner kid - it's mcnulty's line, like "mother went through the trouble of christenin him omar isiah betts" & also tryin to imagine how he got the name "snot boogie"

& also the setup of white police detective gets surprised by how they ~do things~ in the slums

im w/ you on his delivery on the 1st line but its just sorta awkward delivery -- imo it could have been sold
def dont understand the 2nd part though, thats sorta the context of the quote in the book too -- the white cops are all sorta like ~mind blown~ by the 'thats the american way'-ness of it .... like you can live outside the law but still feel like you're still playing by parallel rules (sorta one major subtheme of the entire series)

well yeah, I mean it's exactly the type of story that a cop would tell over a drink to a reporter in a bar, as an example of some kind of "this was the point when I knew I wasn't in Kansas anymore" dividing line. like narratively you can see very clearly exactly what point it's trying to make and how it sets that point up, which is sort of what I meant by writerly - idk how it went down in real life but in the retelling it seems like the experience was made to fit this neat narrative package.

"Thin line 'tween" etc. actually gets said twice, once in Season 1 where McNutty takes Bubs to his kids' soccer practice/game, then another time in season 3 re: Hamsterdam.

ha ok that explains why i was having trouble pinning that down

ahhh yeah forgot about the 2nd once

Also, the idea that Bubbles shouldn't be capable of profundity kind of ignores all his characterization, i.e. an imminently resourceful guy who is clearly intelligent and knowledgeable and perceptive and capable, and who also happens to be a homeless junkie. I think it helps to know or keep in mind that he's the Wire analogue of Gary McCullough, who was a middle class professional before he became an addict.

Like, Bubble schooling McNutty on how to properly tie up boats ("it's a Balmer knot") kind of suggests that he's not yer average fiend.

Anyway, my 5, no partic order:

Carver (really ♥ him after second viewing)
Bunny
Slim Charles
McNutty
Bunk

Chris has this weird equanimity about him, too, that makes him very compelling to watch.

Love Rawls as the inflamed hemorrhoid of an a-hole, and his sentimental foil in Landsman.

Also, the idea that Bubbles shouldn't be capable of profundity kind of ignores all his characterization, i.e. an imminently resourceful guy who is clearly intelligent and knowledgeable and perceptive and capable, and who also happens to be a homeless junkie. I think it helps to know or keep in mind that he's the Wire analogue of Gary McCullough, who was a middle class professional before he became an addict.

― Fairport Dinkum Convention (Leee), Monday, January 17, 2011 11:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fwiw my problem with the line is with the line and not with how plausible it is coming from the character saying it

the scenes with rawls chewing out mcnulty in those early seasons were some of my faves

and i remember getting a goofy rush as s2 got rolling and the crew started reassembling like a long drawn out act 1 of a heist movie where they 'assemble the old gang' and it was like awwwwwwww yeah

Yeah that was awes

fwiw my problem with the line is with the line and not with how plausible it is coming from the character saying it

― some dude, Monday, January 17, 2011 10:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

whats the problem, tho