"The Wire" on HBO

plus in seasons 1-3 you get used to kind of rooting for stringer as the guy who wants to legitimize the outfit, over avon as the guy who seems too caught up in his own street reputation, and then at the end of 3 stringer turns out to have been hugely naive and just exploited laughingly by people who are playing a much higher-level destructive game than mere drug trafficking, and avon might actually have been the smart one, and then marlo shows up just to show you what someone who only cares about his own reputation actually looks like.

otm

i fuckin love marlo

Marlo is kinda terrifying to me.

As a written character I find his place in the story really interesting and great, but to watch, he leaves me begging for humor or sadness or happiness or anything. His flatness is really something else.

i might hear "you want it to be one way, but it's the other way" quoted more than any other line on this show and i think it's because after the barksdale/marlo contrast it hits people as being about entropy vs. order. like not necessarily in those terms, but: you want things to trend naturally towards complexity and justice and harmony, but they don't; they rot.

Norman gets some great lines -
"It does have a certain charm to it. They manufactured an issue to get paid. We manufactured an issue to get you elected Governor. Everybody's gettin' what they need behind some make believe."

"Don't get the crime rate down, ain't no governor neither....Just a weak-ass mayor of a broke-ass city."

yeah Norman is the shit

i actually really liked Chris.

sometimes real life is like this & dudes on the corner say some profound shit abt life

― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, January 17, 2011 1:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I didn't know "The Corner" was a tv show and I thought deej was just casually droppin some Chi-town street knowledge

Marlo easily in my top 5

Chris was really interesting.

I didn't know "The Corner" was a tv show and I thought deej was just casually droppin some Chi-town street knowledge

― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 17, 2011 12:55 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it wasnt about the show.

& im not claiming 'street knowledge' but hey whiney try not to ruin this thread please

wanna explain "o rly" for me

i just mean that sure maybe its delivered in a *more dramatic way* but if u read the book the anecdote as told is completely believable & there's nothing 'out of character' for someone to have thought of just bcuz they happen to be poor & black imo

i mean huge portions of rap music are based around similar ideas & saying otherwise seems borderline condescending to me

wanna explain "o rly" for me

― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, January 17, 2011 1:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if you were talking to a guy who knew someone who was just shot & he said something vaguely poetic about it, i guess some dude is probably the kind of dude who would roll his eyes so never mind me

if this starts to turn into another one of *those fights* the 3 of us are known for im probably gonna bow out tho

if you were talking to a guy who knew someone who was just shot

now can i ruin this thread?

were talking about a specific anecdote, dude, where this occurs

hold on, let me remove my bookmark first..

based on a real life event

wait a guy that just got shot!? talk about loading the question.

haha xp

some dude are we not talking about the snot boogie story at the beginning of the 1st episode??

"thin line 'tween heaven and here" is something Bubbles says about 3 episodes later in a completely unrelated scene

oh i was thinking its what dude said about snot boogie

my confusion -- ok, well, coming from a junkie living in a shitty neighborhood i think the point still stands?

like, if the dude bubbles is based on said that to me i dont think id roll my eyes but maybe u are a different kind of dude

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif

*damn* eyes

every thread now, guys?

― u aint messin w/ my dengue (gr8080), Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:35 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

hi gr80 were discussing the wire

yeah we're at least still on topic...FOR NOW

im not even sure were beefing abt anything at the moment

ok just making sure you guys stay in line

i like Chris.

This scene is the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycWx9ni6dZE

Aw, I like Namond's mom as a character - granted she is also a horrible person

She isn't likeable, but I like watching her - I feel the same way about Rawls - they take such joy in being assholes

i think "thin line 'tween heaven and here" was said by bubbles several SEASONS later, actually

and i agree with some dude that it's one of the times i actually agree is an overwritten line

seriously? im really confused about whats 'overwritten' about it -- feels totally believable & like the kind of thing u can totally imagine someone saying -- pretty sure junkies have said similar profundities to me while begging for change iirc -- seems like pretty natural kind of thing from anyone who may have spent time being raised in the church

(& who lives in the slums)

my top 5 chars (at this exact moment):

vondas
omar
bubbles
mcnulty
and i have a soft spot for bodie

it's not that i couldn't imagine anyone saying it, just seemed forced from bubs in that particular scene

you've seen the show, right?

yeah bodie is up there for me too

you're all forgetting Stringer Bell

tgheres only room for 5!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe i'd bump omar off for string, he gets enough love anyway

Bodie is the goods, but I can't get him into my 5

it's not that i couldn't imagine anyone saying it, just seemed forced from bubs in that particular scene

you've seen the show, right?

― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, January 17, 2011 3:50 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kev i was responding to

if a real life street dude said "thin line 'tween heaven and here" i'd roll my eyes at him too

― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, January 17, 2011 12:20 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idg how you guys are still talking about that line, lol

yeah - deej pretty otm here - there are scenes and exchanges that might feel heavy-handed, but to argue that street dudes and drug dealers couldn't possibly articulate such pithy truths _is_ definitely condescending and patronizing.