Penn & Teller's Bullshit!

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I feel silly!
But: Stephanie Meyers likes them ---Glenn Beck likes them, are they the #1 band for Mormons?

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't know much about them, other than the songs on rock band and guitar here...are they "political" or some shit? i guess they are the new Rush kinda so maybe they have weirdo libertarian leanings and shit

dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

An in-law of mine has been tweeting obsessively on facebook about the recycling episode, telling everybody to stop recycling. Could anyone who has seen the episode break this down for me? The only clue I've got from this thread is:

The PETA one is the scariest thing ever. But I think the recycling one failed.
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:01 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kkvgz, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:03 (eight years ago) Permalink


kkvgz, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

from what i remember someone figured out the pollution/resoureces it takes to drive trucks to places and pick up news papers and then break them down vs just dumping them in a field, and it's supposedly WORSE for the environment to have all these extra trucks and factories running to reuse this stuff

suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh, I'm sure...

Also, for every action there is a reaction.

As in, we get to have our burgers in biodegradeable boxes, only get a shopping plastic bag when we really need it, and so on. So, Newspapers are given out free to train travellers, everyone tales one, only 50% of them are read, and 95% are left on the train to get recycled and reprinted. I vote we sack free papers.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

xp ok (or not, depending on whether that's true) but recycling is not just about energy saving, it's about not giving over the whole of your countryside to massive stinky unhealthy landfill sites.

and the hint of parp (ledge), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was thinking about that. And not stripping the countryside of natural resources in the first place.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

stuff like paper might be better made from renewable resources rather than recycled, iirc. like to see the arguments against recycling rarer materials with finite supplies.

a SB-in' artist that been in the game for a minute (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

aren't these guys more or less global warming sceptics tho? fucking libertarians

a SB-in' artist that been in the game for a minute (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wow - he just posted on it for the third time today.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Getting the trash picked up at my curb is more expensive and uses more resources than simply throwing it out the window and letting it pile up in my backyard. Therefore trash pickup is bullshit.

wk, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's the level of thought these libertarian asshats seem to operate under. Teller is a great magician though. Shame they had to go down this path.

wk, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Getting the trash picked up at my curb is more expensive and uses more resources than simply throwing it out the window and letting it pile up in my backyard.

this is only true in the short-term duh

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Teller speaks! Wizard-level misdirection!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 14 July 2011 06:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

This is still his best piece. Too bad there's not a clean version up without people talking on top.

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Thursday, 14 July 2011 07:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

I remember a "travels around the world" TV series they did, which was excellent and one I'd buy if it were available..

Teller did a bit of a video diary on it.

Mark G, Thursday, 14 July 2011 09:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

I'm finally watching this show, it's pretty great. The show about going green was so awesome. Some of them present really interesting points of view that I hadn't thought of, and never really see when these topics come up. They must get a lot of shit from leftists. Also, <3 the blonde with the perfect huge tits

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:30 (six years ago) Permalink

definitely some interesting POVs on this show, but I certainly wouldn't take anything away from it, it's about the least objective thing on TV right now

That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Nothing's objective on TV.

The organic one was awesome too

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:40 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

seeing doc directed by Teller, Tim's Vermeer, tonight. It's on the Oscar shortlist of 15.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 December 2013 21:23 (five years ago) Permalink

I like crawetur

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 12 December 2013 21:45 (five years ago) Permalink

There was good Vanity Fair article about that Vermeer story and the accompanying documentary recently.

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 December 2013 04:21 (five years ago) Permalink

yall know this show sites fake corporate research real news sources wont touch right

lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 04:23 (five years ago) Permalink

aka liberty

lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 04:24 (five years ago) Permalink

eh their smugness would be more tolerable if i knew they were using reliable data instead of sourcing it from whatever shady corporate funded fake laboratories

― ice cr?m, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're talking about a different thing, a documentary about Vermeer.

bamcquern, Friday, 13 December 2013 05:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Verneer of respectability

Mark G, Friday, 13 December 2013 10:24 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I got through about 3 seasons, possibly more, a couple of years ago before I gave up on it.
At that point i just found the inherent political slant too grating. Seemed they only wanted to be cynical in one direction.

Not sure how many series there are and that was around 2009 or 10 that i was watching it. Had to download it from Demonoid or something.

Stevolende, Friday, 13 December 2013 10:55 (five years ago) Permalink

man I forgot how much I hated this show

frogbs, Friday, 13 December 2013 13:47 (five years ago) Permalink

They're talking about a different thing, a documentary about Vermeer.

wow i couldnt tell that by all the posts talking abt the documentary abt vermeer *j/o motion*

lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 15:26 (five years ago) Permalink

i read the vanity fair piece it does sound cool tho but the more important point is bullshit is bullshit these guys are disgusting

lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 15:27 (five years ago) Permalink

yes but tell me amore about the blonde with the huge perfect tits?

ian, Friday, 13 December 2013 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

So, they are touring the UK next year

Mark G, Friday, 13 December 2013 18:15 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

If it worked for him, ok, that's fine. Some people need a drastic change from old habits. Not anything I'd recommend for others. Especially anyone who isn't worth at least a few million dollars and can afford whatever medical assistance they need if things go south.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 15 August 2016 04:55 (two years ago) Permalink

he had some awful illness a couple years ago, was painfully thin after.

I guess there's a whole bunch of things he can't eat anymore.

Mark G, Monday, 15 August 2016 08:04 (two years ago) Permalink

that's contrary to everything he's publicly said over and over, which is that he lost weight deliberately for health reasons

Shakey δσς (sic), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 01:11 (two years ago) Permalink

with all that fiber and hot pepper his shits must just be phenomenal

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 01:25 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't see anything wrong with his diet? It doesn't seem as unpleasant as most vegans I know with the fake meats and stuff.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 02:49 (two years ago) Permalink

The blueberry cayenne thing, I'm going to try.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 02:51 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah that piqued my curiosity tbh

bagging area (map), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 02:55 (two years ago) Permalink

diet sounds pretty healthful to me too, any vegetarians around to weigh in on this? like he says, seems like he eats a lot, it's just mostly fruits and veggies. isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing?

it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 04:55 (two years ago) Permalink

He starves himself and then he overeats. He also has periods of not eating nutritiously, which is disguised by all the veggies and fruit he eats, but most of us are guilty of that.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 05:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Intermittent fasting isn't starving yourself.

Only thing that sticks out to me is that it's very light on protein but Furman is largely anti-protein IIRC.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:49 (two years ago) Permalink

He describes eating several pounds of food, really prodigious quantities, and he'll follow that up with huge snacks four hours later. And periodically going 36 hours without food sounds more like deprivation than fasting.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:04 (two years ago) Permalink

No, that's a pretty standard fasting style - eat dinner, skip a day, eat breakfast.

His 'pounds of food' is watermelon, which has a crazy high water content even for fruit. It's not like eating four pounds of beef or French fries.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:31 (two years ago) Permalink

but I don't see any particular health benefit in eating tons of watermelon?

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:40 (two years ago) Permalink

like it's a nutritious and hydrating fruit to consume but id imagine the absorption of the vitamins in it isn't infinite, and like there's only so much fiber and fruit sugar you really need in a day?

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Watermelon has low calorie density (filling but not terribly calorific) and the red pigment is lycopene, the same skin protecting carotenoid that colors tomatoes.

Penn's diet follows Dr. Fuhrman's guidelines, basically caloric restriction with optimal nutrition style, but achieved via ranking foods into seek/reduce/avoid categories rather than the spreadsheets etc. used in CRON, and there are few healthier. Some of Fuhrman's rhetoric about "toxic hunger" is unfounded, and I didn't care for the recipes. Most data sees diminishing returns on fruit and vegetable intake after 8 or so servings a day, and I'm increasingly convinced the health benefit of whole plant based diets owes more to what they don't include (fats and excess protein), so I've opted for a more comfort food diet (ie, more potatoes, beans, & corn tortillas), but I'll sometimes have a Fuhrman-style dinner salad with over a pound of greens, veggies, 'shrooms etc.

no ends, only meanness (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:13 (two years ago) Permalink

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