The Matrix Reloaded (full spoilers)

Well, not entirely...

Those agents will be as fast as lightning.

Fucking Oracle. Costs an arm and a leg and you don't even get the documentation! </EXTREME GEEKINESS>

another possibility: Neo learns that the reality he was freed from in the first film, our reality, is itself a matrix constructed by a higher power (that would be God then...) and not the machines, so like a fractal the machines were replicating what was already there for humans - a shell within a shell. this might be a bit of a dead end tho, because there would not seem to be a system that makes more sense for humans to live in than this reality...unless, as with the machine-constructed reality, it is not true freedom. the point is, humans are technically no better off in reality than they are in the matrix - they are identical...so will be interesting to see if the next film goes beyond the mere escape from the inner shell back to the outer shell

Reading that transcript that teeny found, it appears that the sentinels are indeed going to kill everyone in Zion, and 23 new people in the matrix will be ejected to form a new one. So, we're probably talking about hundreds of years between versions.

stevem, why "the machines" need the humangs to be anything more than sessile vegetables remains a mystery to me.

a) Neo
b) a chimp
c) all of the above

"Why am I here?"

entire audience: groans

oh my god, best film ever

That ain't no trick. ;-)

Are you saying there is more then one race to blame for Keanu?

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/searchresults.php?board=1&q=Bill+and+Ted%27s+Excellent++Adventure&mode=threads

A bit harsh, but I understand the sentiment. ;-) His ancestry is Chinese, Caucasian and I believe native Hawaiian as well. Spencer would be a much better actor/rock star/technomessiah, methinks.

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Zion council = 23 people! Do the crazy MATH. Failsafe.

whoa.

as anyone mentioned the carol vorderman link yet?

good though.

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I thought the highway scene was really boring and crap and I didn't like the hundreds of Smiths scene either.

Morpheus' speech was so pathetic. He didn't say anything motivating or frenzy inducing, his voice sounded really weak and strained, he had no stage prescence. I don't get it, I though the guy playing the role was meant to be an actor - how come he couldn't pull it off? It was embarrassingly bad.

Keanu = k-hot.

I didn't notice the 23 on the council, 23 choosen to rebuild Zion thing. How many were male and how many female?

dude i think the sentinels are escape pods!! remember when the zionistick leadership is discussing how there's "one for every citizen of zion" and morpheus comes in going "sounds like machine thinking to me" and they're all like "whoa, morpheus, whassup" and forget everything they were talking about; sentinels r gunning for nebuchadnezzar because they neo et al are a DANJUH to mankind

i think the drilling and/or sentinels are sent by humans, alive at the top, taking the upper hand perhaps momentarily in their REAL fight against the machines, and sending down rescue crews to the poor fuckers who are literally living in hell (check out that lava action)