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he is. i left him off the wire babez poll bc ziggy is so irritating, but it was an oversight.

he is tiny though

guys i know that ziggy is supposed to be irritating, that doesn't mean that the acting isn't often awful too

ziggy definitely worst character on the show, between him and mouzone

mouzone being all dapper/nation of islam or w/e is a bit overkill but i don't mind him -- i did lol at him being all WHERE ARE MY NEW ISSUES OF THE NATION AND ATLANTIC? I NEED MY ANDREW SULLIVAN

ransone is cute, yes -- have you guys seen 'ken park'? (it's pretty much porn)

found out last weekend that he went to college with my bf's wife

I must see this Ken park

Immediately

lol @ j0rd being all "this isnt authentic enough"

― dayo, Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:09 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

idk man, for as impressively intricate the story is (and will get, i'm sure), on a scene-by-scene basis there's still tons of groaners from a writing/acting perspective

j0rdan i wish i could have your back on this since i was w/ you on Paul Dano in There Will Be Blood, but for me there's nothing about Ransone's performance that doesn't ring true to what Ziggy-type people are like IRL

yeah it's amazing...wait till the end of the season, j0rdan

Oh man he's certainly not on a Paul dano level. Like I said, I think he was great some of the time but awful in other ways that I sorta couldn't get over

Also: was this really the first thread on the show? Weird that it took until the final episode of s2

the show's initial profile was not remotely what it eventually became. also not every TV show had a thread on ILE 9 years ago.

Word -- I forget how early this started -- last night I was watching an episode where they were all "he's using these things called text messages" and I was like O_O

lol i don't remember that

it's in season 2, when the greeks & stevedores figure out that all their phones are being tapped, spiros whips out like a palm pilot or some shit & sends a text message and they're all like "huh..." -- one dude in the room even says "my kids do it all the time"

when did SMS take off in the US

also spiros gets a text in greek, which was very swag

feel like it was later than in the UK, maybe a cost thing?

SMS took off way later here than in the UK. I don't really remember anyone doing it until QWERTY keyboards were commonplace.

AT&T didn't even really have MMS capability until the iPhone came out.

until after, that is

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"Opportunity plus instinct equals profit."

http://i.cdn.hbo.com/assets/images/series/the-wire/character/the-law/stanislaus-valchek-160.jpg

It never hurts to suck up to the boss.

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"The flimsier the product, the higher the price."

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"Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack."

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"Employees are rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them."

Watching S2 I kept thinking that if anyone ever wanted to make a movie about the life of Jeff Buckley (heaven forbid), James Ransone would be the guy.

if they ever do a Jeff Buckley biopic they should really cast Ransone, both because he looks close enough and because afaict JB was about as obnoxious as Ziggy irl

― some dude, Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I thought it was a bit of groaner when Zig was in the public library looking something up on the computer that Nicky came by and Zig had to explain to Nick what a search engine was in 2003.

xpost Leee you forgot my favorite: Never Place Friendship Above Profit

Just started watching this for the second time through with my gf who has never seen it. I forgot so much great stuff and im totally picking up new things and loving it

XP horseshoe, ah well great minds etc:

every season of this show is awesome

otm

5 wasn't as bad as it's sometimes made out but i'd put it somewhere beneath "awesome"

yeah that's otm

Sub-awesome?

One of those shows I want to hate b/c of my inherant iconoclastic nature, but ultimately it's v well written and p shocking at times. I still think the first season is the only one worth watching, though, (indulging in my urges.)

5 was the most wack but I think it got resolved in a way that still makes it awesome.

My personal vote goes to season 2. Couldn't stand the characters, couldn't stand the cliches, couldn't stand how obviously inspired it was by things I had already seen (it was like they took On The Waterfront and stretched what was done excellently in 2 hours into 12 hours of "Ok, I get it") .

Took me a while to pick up Season 3, but definitely feel so far that it was the 2nd best season - the return to "the streets" was much appreciated, and definitely the reason I remembered I was watching this series for in the first place.

idk man, for as impressively intricate the story is (and will get, i'm sure), on a scene-by-scene basis there's still tons of groaners from a writing/acting perspective

― J0rdan S., Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:36 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

there were def groaners in the 1st season cause they were following the police procedural type format too closely. like I remember the prez solves the mysterious beeper code!! part really facepalm-y, also the character of prez was just way too cardboard. it's in season 2/3/4 when they stop following that format and let it ~play out on its own~ that it becomes really excellent and transcendent.

btw julliard is a music school, not an acting school

I also met an ziggy-type person last night, I wanted to punch his lights out so bad

yeah prez is one of the characters on this show for me that goes from a *rolls eyes* to a dope character

totally

btw julliard is a music school, not an acting school

btw juilliard also has a drama school. crazy chinese mother's husband went there.

I also met an ziggy-type person last night, I wanted to punch his lights out so bad

He was showing off his dick, wasn't he?

Hated Prez when he was first introduced, total idiot but by the end of season 4, I was all <3

xpost did he have a duck on a leash?

btw julliard is a music school, not an acting school

btw juilliard also has a drama school. crazy chinese mother's husband went there.

― Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:51 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

hoisted on my own petard ;_;

looking at the alumni list on wikipedia the only names that jump out at me are robin williams and christopher reeve

so

pretty sure i have heard robin williams say "true dat"