The Great ILX Gun Control Debate

I thought about creating a sock account called 'guns' and inviting everybody to symbolically SB it

okay I'm heading over to the your terrible ideas thread, see you all there

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/18/south.carolina.family.shot/index.html?hpt=T2

ugh

What that kid needed was obv. more safety training. Plus, if his family was armed maybe it wouldn't have happened.

Couldn't have happened if we banned handguns, right?

They should ban children.

Couldn't have happened if we banned handguns, right?

― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:56 PM (1 hour ago)

salient point

well, those poor people are dead, but at least old men can still hunt small birds

world without guns

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OmM8cmOm_-ebUM:http://1funny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/birds-attack.jpg&t=1

some interesting statistics from the mcleans article i posted on the arizona-shootings thread:

Since 1776, a total of 580,000 U.S. troops have been killed in action, including the carnage of the Civil War. In just four decades ending in 2008, the number of firearms deaths in the U.S. was 1.3 million.

According to the most recent annual data, in 2007 31,224 people died in the U.S. of gunshot wounds—12,632 of them murdered (other causes of death included suicide and unintentional deaths). A further 66,768 people survived gun injuries—44,466 of them sustained in an attack. Over the past three decades, on average about 20 mass shootings—defined as having at least four slain victims—have occurred annually in the United States, claiming nearly 100 lives each year. Some have been worse than others. March 2005: seven people dead in the Red Lake, Minn., massacre. April 2007: 32 killed in the Virginia Tech massacre. March 2009: 10 people killed in the Geneva County massacre in Alabama. April 2009: Binghamton, New York, 14 dead.

The U.S. has an estimated 283 million guns in civilian hands: approximately one-quarter of American adults own a licensed gun.

xxxxp I don't think anyone thinks gun control = no guns.

well not in my lifetime but it's the goal

ain't gonna happen

They should ban children.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 22:56 (Yesterday)

not with liberals constantly reminding me of that, yeah i know xp

xp sort of otm - anyone who thinks a child should be allowed anywhere near a gun is obv insane

You're more likely to get children banned than guns.

one-gun-per-household policy

I'm not sure why you specified 'liberals telling you that' - is one's political ideology supposed to override reality?

the world changes in pretty crazy ways, maybe 100 years from now guns will just be kind of pointless cause there will be better ways to kill people / hunt birds / protect yourself from government fascism.

alternatively gun people might just get iphones and realize that playing angry birds is more fun than owning a gun

I own Angry Birds on both iPad and iPhone. It has never been, in any way, as fun as taking three 9mm semi-autos to the range today and shooting 250 rounds.

Sex -> laughing with pretty girls = Catan with friends ->shooting guns ->>>>>>>>>>>>>Angry Birds

the world changes in pretty crazy ways, maybe 100 years from now guns will just be kind of pointless cause there will be better ways to kill people / hunt birds / protect yourself from government fascism.

polar ice caps melting should help

so I guess we just need to get gun owners laid?

I have never played angry birds fwiw

if not laid, then a regular game of Catan, yeah

so tempted to post the pictures I took at the range

cool bro

lol

You're more likely to get children banned than guns.

― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:11 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why america is great in 9 words

Sex -> laughing with pretty girls = Catan with friends ->shooting guns ->>>>>>>>>>>>>Angry Birds

― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:19 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

only one of these things is lethal to other people, and no I'm not talking about sex, ba dum bing!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350721/Girl-9-father-shot-dead-anti-immigrant-vigilantes-begged-life.html

man, arizona

The couple went to the front room - where Brisenia had spent the night on the sofa to be near her new dog - and spotted two people outside.

I want to throw up

maybe they were hunting quail?

it's a good thing the family had a gun of their own so they could protect themselves

'I can hear it happening,' Mrs Flores told the court describing how her daughter said: 'Why did you shoot my dad? Why did you shoot my mum?'

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Main_Page

Wow.

Hollywood and gun violence: two great tastes that taste great together!

jesus.

Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans
Jarneshia Broussard, 5, was eating a hot dog and beans

franks n beans day was always a winner @ the school cafeteria

ilx too good for beanie weenies?

Ohio is about to let people carry concealed weapons into bars and sports arenas, plus other venues where alcohol is plentiful. Should be awesome.

kid probably just wanted to hunt some grouse

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/09/05/2011-09-05_bloody_weekend_24_shot_in_24_hours_prompting_mayor_bloomberg_to_call_for_tougher.html

bloomberg otm

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/us/felons-finding-it-easy-to-regain-gun-rights.html

those republicans are sure tough on crime ;)

"Democrats went gun-shy in the 2000s. By 2008, Barack Obama had little to say about gun control, even trying to disavow his signature on a 1996 document signed by some Illinois legislators backing a ban on all handguns. In 2009, there were 65 pro-gun Democrats on Capitol Hill. The lobby owns the GOP, well, lock, stock, and barrel.

"Earlier this year, the Indiana state house passed -- with NRA backing -- a bill spelling out when citizens could kill police officers. Some prominent military leaders wanted military personnel to be able to discuss gun safety with troops as a way of trying to stem military suicides, many of which are committed with personally owned guns. The NRA was having none of it.

"And so it's no surprise that Obama and Mitt Romney (who once supported waiting periods and the assault weapons ban) produced mealy-mouthed statements on Friday that didn't even include the word 'gun'. Many Democrats from urban districts will continue to oppose the NRA. But the party will continue to quake, shooting after shooting after shooting, bodies upon bodies upon bodies.

"So this will happen again. And again, and again. In fact, as I said above, we are likely headed for a day in this country like the following. At a movie theater, in a mall, at a commuter rail platform, in a restaurant -- some glory-seeker opens fire. Most people duck and scatter, but a decent percentage of them produce their pieces. The gunman goes down like Warren Beatty in Bonnie and Clyde, but, since 'most people' aren't marksmen, maybe a few other people do too, and maybe, oh, a three year old.

"But hey. There's always a spoilage factor. Rights are sacred. From their cold, dead hands..."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/21/after-aurora-michael-tomasky-on-the-country-the-nra-wants-to-see.html

Jill Lepore's article v good on what utter and modern bullshit "The right of citizens to keep and bear arms" is.

I think this was quoted from that article in one of the other threads, but worth repeating:

That is the logic of the concealed-carry movement; that is how armed citizens have come to be patrolling the streets. That is not how civilians live. When carrying a concealed weapon for self-defense is understood not as a failure of civil society, to be mourned, but as an act of citizenship, to be vaunted, there is little civilian life left.

Hey I went to burning man with this guy!

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19221052/dc-man-orders-television-online-receives-rifle-instead

http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/letters/Nose+Hill+Park+confrontation+makes+visitors+feel+unsafe/7050028/story.html