alfred those ppl do not matter
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
their hobby is stupid
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
seems worth pointing out that being a hunter is statistically pretty unlikely so people shouldnt freak out so much
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
And they should be deprived of their hobby because a 9 year old girl died, obviously.
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
jeez u guys are pretty touching about hunting!!! have you considered knitting or something
knitting socks out of grouse feathers
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
If someone can prove that a gun saved two lives, then we get to keep them right?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
You're still free as long as you think you want to do the things you're allowed to do.
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
or would it have to be two nine-year olds
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 14:43 (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Assuming you're taking the piss but I agree with this for two reasons.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
just have to prove that a gun can stop the boot of tyranny
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
lets not go down this particular road of snark guys
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
what else is there to do at this point
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
tragedy is inverse-square so..
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
if we got rid of hunting 2 generations down their grandkids wouldn't be like "damn there is something missing in my life, why am I not killing things..." plus they'd be playing halo 19 or whatever, which at that point will be scientifically, objectively more fun than hunting.
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
too hard to stop from sniping itt
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Without hunting, what do we do when deer populations overwhelm their ecosystem's ability to sustain them?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
deer are cool
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
halo 19 would probably be literal hunting, though.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i believe i pointed this out in another thread, but deer hunting is a literal necessity in this country - they're giant rats whose population can no longer be kept in check by diminished predator populations
xp
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
wait guys i shot competitive high power rifle while living in a metropolitan area, so i would like some help trying to figure out if i am in the midwestern dumbshit yokel hunter category or the psycho right-wing conceal carry future murderer one.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
gbx, why isn't a distinction as to the type of firearm legit?
we grant some speech protection and other speech none? why not guns?
― end aggro business now (Hunt3r), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Where to park my howitzer?
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
the boot of deer tyranny
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
ive mentioned this on this thread before (and i think milo mentioned it more recently) but lots of the distinctions made between guns re:lethality are totally wrongheaded but sound comforting to people that dont really know much about firearms. xxpost
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 14:48 (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Eco-hunting isn't just about killing animals though. I know that with elephants you have to cull an entire family, otherwise the remaining members go on a big psycho rampage, so you can't just give a bloke a rifle and say 'cull elephants plz'. Dunno about deer but I assume there are also correct and incorrect ways to manage deer populations.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i suggested banning handguns on this very thread like 3 years ago and ppl were all, what about competitive handgun shooters, and that was the point at which i just threw up my hands and was like, whatever
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway heart disease kills more people than anything else in the united states (25%) and even though cheeseburgers don't actually kill ppl instantaneously like bullets do, banning fast food would probably do more for the public good than banning guns. and like if you happen to eat big macs responsible who fucking cares, get a new food you fat fuck
xp hunt3r i'm actually willing to make distinctions, but max et al are arguing that we should ban guns, full stop
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
max sb'd guns 3 years ago and guns have yet to get 51'd -- how is this possible
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 January 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i have nothing against hunters, but handguns are something else. apparently, this makes me unacceptable to either side of this debate.
― Yutte Hermsgervørdenbrøtbørda (Eisbaer), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I think there are lots of reasonable measure you can take that would fall short of banning guns outright. but people like to pretend that our current laws and the current system of selling guns is more than adequate to prevent abuse of the system. w/e
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Also there's no accountability when you just give some bloke (e.g.) a rifle for the culling of deer numbers. Let's say that bloke also takes out a load of endangered animals that are crapping on his driveway.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
trying to change the issue to be able cheeseburgers and cars is ridiculous - yeah we have to fix lots of other huge problems in our society! we should also get on that! that doesn't mean we should let crazy people buy machine guns!
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
be about
we don't have blokes in america so i think your post is irrelevant
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 January 2011 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
like yeah I'd totally be down with only banning handguns and letting the high power competitive rifle shooters have at it or w/e. but then it makes it harder to resist the boot of tyranny oh no
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm from around the bloke
― Yutte Hermsgervørdenbrøtbørda (Eisbaer), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
as has been previously discussed iatee (and i) believe that everyone in america should move to new hampshire and cars should be outlawed--banning guns seems more feasible at this point so thats what im going for
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
How is it 'pretending' dayo? We don't live in a lawless society with gun violence on every street corner. What would be 'good enough' for you? What numbers are you looking for?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, January 9, 2011 10:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
yes there is
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
and I think comparing guns to other causes of death in america like cheeseburgers or cars or tobacco is fallacious because guns possess certain properties that those other things just don't. guns are designed to cause damage to other things. that is their only purpose. they are designed to do so in a way that doesn't damage the user of the gun. the damage done is potentially lethal. etc. etc.
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
btw I'm not sure 'fast food is worse' is on point itt
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
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trying to change the issue to be able cheeseburgers and cars is ridiculous - yeah we have to fix lots of other huge problems in our society! we should also get on that! that doesn't mean we should let crazy people buy machine guns!― iatee, Sunday, January 9, 2011 9:54 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark
― iatee, Sunday, January 9, 2011 9:54 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark
w/e dude, that was not what i was suggesting. and yeah guys duh i fucking know that it's apples and oranges.
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
With even a little planning and skill, you can do a lot of damage with a "high power competitive rifle." Charles Whitman, Lee Harvey Oswald, perhaps you've heard of them.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, January 10, 2011 11:56 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark
how about a homicide rate similar to the UK's or any other developed country that outlaws guns
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously, i grew up around people who hunted -- all of whom were law-abiding and sane, and knew how to handle guns responsibly. i never saw any point in needlessly antagonizing them, even if i thought that NRA rhetoric was either wrong or wacked out.
― Yutte Hermsgervørdenbrøtbørda (Eisbaer), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
that doesn't mean we should let crazy people buy machine guns!
i agree! and we don't let them, or in fact almost anybody buy machine guns, so i dont really know what that has to do with anything
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Sunday, January 9, 2011 10:57 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
dogg compare the homicide rate w/ handguns vs rifles
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
oh why am i being serious on this thread again