iatee see the thing is that you have actually demonstrated, in this very thread, that you dont give a shit about ppl doing something you happen to dislike in a safe and responsible manner. whereas, this boring midwesterner that hunts on the weekend that doesn't give a shit about inner city shootings is something you have literally made up.
right but banning hunting has never been a national debate and never will be, whereas banning guns in inner cities *is* a political issue that the gun lobby and most people who support 'the right to bear arms' fight against viciously. it's ridiculous to pretend that the boring midwesterner's right to go hunting has ever been in question.
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link
right and it's a false binary xp
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link
How are you going to differentiate between them when you ban guns?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, January 10, 2011 11:34 AM (1 second ago) Bookmark
you can't, guess that means all guns have to go, sorry quail hunters
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I think my dad's most frequently shared gun brag moment as a guy with all these animal heads on his walls, a guy who was once the accountant for Freedom Arms (lol), is this time when he and my mom were young marrieds in Los Angeles. He said he was getting trailed by some guy, who he suspected was going to do crimes, and he said, "Good thing I have my gun with me." And the guy ducked away. So, there are some points I guess could be drawn from this, I don't rly want to make any of them, it's just I've heard my dad tell this story several dozens of times and I think of it when I think about the mean streets and gun crimes.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry you can't hunt quail anymore, but have you heard, there's this thing called the internet, and people are entertained by it, in fact some people who have hunted quail and gone on the internet actually prefer the internet for their entertainment, hard to believe
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link
how about, if you live/work in a neighborhood with a certain threshold of per capita murders, you can get a gun exemption, otherwise no.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
cyberquail
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Which won't be racially sensitive/motivated at all!
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Shoot the bastard.
http://files.list.co.uk/images/2008/11/20/FamousGrouse2.jpg
how about people stop hunting quail and get some new fuckin hobbies
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link
what if we just traded them wiis for their guns
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link
~problem solved~http://teslastaging.com/forums/images/smilies/Gestures/userArmsCrossed.gif
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Holy shit guys slow down.
― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think anyone's alluded to the possibility that, while there's overlap, people who own guns for hunting are not to be confused with people who own guns for self-defense.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
alfred i don't think it would matter
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
why are we focusing on the people who own the guns and not the guns themselves
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I know plenty of guys who use their rifles and shotguns between November and February for boar/deer hunting season and don't touch them the rest of the year.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
alfred those ppl do not matter
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
their hobby is stupid
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
seems worth pointing out that being a hunter is statistically pretty unlikely so people shouldnt freak out so much
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
And they should be deprived of their hobby because a 9 year old girl died, obviously.
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
jeez u guys are pretty touching about hunting!!! have you considered knitting or something
knitting socks out of grouse feathers
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
If someone can prove that a gun saved two lives, then we get to keep them right?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
You're still free as long as you think you want to do the things you're allowed to do.
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
or would it have to be two nine-year olds
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 14:43 (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Assuming you're taking the piss but I agree with this for two reasons.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
just have to prove that a gun can stop the boot of tyranny
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
lets not go down this particular road of snark guys
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
what else is there to do at this point
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
tragedy is inverse-square so..
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
if we got rid of hunting 2 generations down their grandkids wouldn't be like "damn there is something missing in my life, why am I not killing things..." plus they'd be playing halo 19 or whatever, which at that point will be scientifically, objectively more fun than hunting.
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
too hard to stop from sniping itt
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Without hunting, what do we do when deer populations overwhelm their ecosystem's ability to sustain them?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
deer are cool
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
halo 19 would probably be literal hunting, though.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i believe i pointed this out in another thread, but deer hunting is a literal necessity in this country - they're giant rats whose population can no longer be kept in check by diminished predator populations
xp
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
wait guys i shot competitive high power rifle while living in a metropolitan area, so i would like some help trying to figure out if i am in the midwestern dumbshit yokel hunter category or the psycho right-wing conceal carry future murderer one.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
gbx, why isn't a distinction as to the type of firearm legit?
we grant some speech protection and other speech none? why not guns?
― end aggro business now (Hunt3r), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Where to park my howitzer?
― Kerm, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
the boot of deer tyranny
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
ive mentioned this on this thread before (and i think milo mentioned it more recently) but lots of the distinctions made between guns re:lethality are totally wrongheaded but sound comforting to people that dont really know much about firearms. xxpost
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 14:48 (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Eco-hunting isn't just about killing animals though. I know that with elephants you have to cull an entire family, otherwise the remaining members go on a big psycho rampage, so you can't just give a bloke a rifle and say 'cull elephants plz'. Dunno about deer but I assume there are also correct and incorrect ways to manage deer populations.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i suggested banning handguns on this very thread like 3 years ago and ppl were all, what about competitive handgun shooters, and that was the point at which i just threw up my hands and was like, whatever
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway heart disease kills more people than anything else in the united states (25%) and even though cheeseburgers don't actually kill ppl instantaneously like bullets do, banning fast food would probably do more for the public good than banning guns. and like if you happen to eat big macs responsible who fucking cares, get a new food you fat fuck
xp hunt3r i'm actually willing to make distinctions, but max et al are arguing that we should ban guns, full stop
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
max sb'd guns 3 years ago and guns have yet to get 51'd -- how is this possible
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 January 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i have nothing against hunters, but handguns are something else. apparently, this makes me unacceptable to either side of this debate.
― Yutte Hermsgervørdenbrøtbørda (Eisbaer), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I think there are lots of reasonable measure you can take that would fall short of banning guns outright. but people like to pretend that our current laws and the current system of selling guns is more than adequate to prevent abuse of the system. w/e
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Also there's no accountability when you just give some bloke (e.g.) a rifle for the culling of deer numbers. Let's say that bloke also takes out a load of endangered animals that are crapping on his driveway.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link