Cassie: The new Ciara?

tim finney! u!

haha

i feel like i like this Oo\_/oO track more than the creep one

looool

ugh feel so embarrassed now ive been taken in by notorious internet prankster tim finney

I'm old-fashioned and like to think that "scene" should still have some grounding in geography.

Still, seeing as her own scene has evidently decided it can't be bothered with Cassie she might as well go chasing the FACT magazine audience if only to give her something to do. Still, Cassie doing witch house would be appalling, Cassie doing post-dubstep probably not much better. Shame this couldn't have fallen in a way that involved her voicing icy MIA-style minimal, but that obviously won't happen.

idk you have to imagine that if these guys are really that into her music, they would um keep that in mind when producing stuff for her if i mean you know that were ever to happen

that is, its not certain that the dude from htdw would try and manhandle her into his sound.

The history of cross-genre collaborations suggests the exact opposite actually.

History of tunes sampling Cassie to date supports matt more than plax here.

sampling is kindof a diff thing tho right?

yah like maybe thats just optimism and naivety, optimism and naivety

Alright bootlegging or remixing her vocals then.

Also what would be the point of oOoOO or Girl Unit or whoever just making a fake Connecticut Fever type track? Better to put together a collaborative track that suits the producer AND actually plays to her strengths, but from what I've heard of witch house in particular its a genre exceptionally ill-suited to her. Likewise anything with exceptionally heavy dubstep bass would make her voice sound ridiculously thin.

from what I've heard of witch house in particular its a genre exceptionally ill-suited to her

as i said, creep would be my pick - their sound isn't as overwhelming as salem/white ring, their track with romy xx displays surprising pop instincts and they're working with nina sky, who aren't a million miles from cassie vocally.

kingdom sampling cassie obv worked really well, too.

and most of the remixes on the skydiver package turned out alright! brackles and slackk maybe the picks there.

ew gross the kingdom thing was all wrong, i love him and all but no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdw7pJHLNQI

tbf this isnt a million miles away from a ryan leslie production.

kind of weird if the narrative is becoming that Cassie's music is just too out there or forward-thinking or something for the label whose 2 releases in the past year were Last Train To Paris and The ArchAndroid

I don't think that's really the narrative al, at least not now - but if Cassie does ultimately get the retrospective treatment you can bet that's how it'll be framed.

wont it be more "too fragile and small, like a tiny precious flower that nobody noticed dancing in the wind"

Nah even though that's more representative of current fan club sentiment, the whole point is that the retrospective take will be massively off-base.

i sincerely believe the album is coming out this year. let's hope "let's get crazy" is left off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtJs12vSCSs&feature=related

Something like this but less sampley and more "worked with Cassie's strengths" would be amazing

http://canuhearme.tumblr.com/

LOL guys. So I just got back from seeing How to Dress Well (I know, I know) and I spoke to Tom after the show. Two things:

1) He apparently has been chatting with Cassie on Skype and the whole 'working together on a track for his album' thing might really happen !!!
2) He seemed fairly confident from those conversations that her album would be coming out sometime in 2011, if not on a big label/Bad Boy/whatever, then on something smaller.

um

whoa

(good reporting, btw)

god, you know, i love the internet.

all this electro love

i could see some euro label putting out her album

that's about it tho

cassie singing over a how to dress well song would be a disaster tho unless he decided to record music not like an asshole

lolllll

(Also, on a totally unrelated note, while I really quite love his album he had a cold today and dropped an octave out of the falsetto for one or two songs and MY GOODNESS he has a wonderful (traditionally good) r&b voice when he's not pitching himself up into sad nostalgia indie range. in an alternate universe there is a version of Love Remains which features him singing in his regular singing voice with fuller studio production and it is a BANGING r&b album. he also did a 100% faithfully earnest cover of 'I Wish' by R Kelly which was sort of wonderful)

his "i wish" cover is great

Great update Alex in Montreal. I tried listening to How To Dress Well and my first impression was it sounded like an indie guy singing half ass faux quiet storm music. However, I'm willing to listen to him again.

Also, I hope this album is released in a smaller label. That way it won't have this impossible expectation to sell Rihanna/Beyonce like numbers. Plus, with this seemingly indie love she is getting it would be interesting how they advertise this album.

Plus there is this:

http://www.dummymag.com/features/2011/01/18/a-love-letter-to-cassie/

*on a smaller label I mean

Um...I mean, if HtDW isn't your thing it isn't your thing (Lex, this means you). He's part of a particular subset of underground/lo-fi music these days whose tastes and interests musically are firmly in the world of R&B, bass and dance stuff (and who often have quite good taste when it comes to these genres), but whose music doesn't necessarily reflect that, or at least not the values that more 'traditional' fans of those genres might zoom in on. End result is it appeals more to people who might completely ignore the stuff they're using as inspiration than those with similar musical affections.

Which is just a long round-about way of saying that it will make Lex apoplectic. :)

He's part of a particular subset of underground/lo-fi music these days whose tastes and interests musically are firmly in the world of R&B, bass and dance stuff

Yeah this concept popped up my mind when trying to hear it this past December. It felt like "safe music" for indie kids who didn't want to listen to scary, black r&b (roll eyes). However I have a habit of dissing something at first listen and coming back to it months and years later appreciating it for what it is despite the ignorance of the fans attached to it.

It felt like "safe music" for indie kids who didn't want to listen to scary, black r&b (roll eyes). However I have a habit of dissing something at first listen and coming back to it months and years later appreciating it for what it is despite the ignorance of the fans attached to it.

This seems really harsh. What evidence is there that How to Dress Well fans are ignorant? My understanding is that much of his appeal is that he truly is well researched R&B enthusiast playing with the conventions of a genre he deeply loves and understands. HtDW fans might not be as versed in R&B, but they certainly have an appreciation for the genre. A listener would have to be pretty masochistic to listen to that HtDW album if they didn't like R&B.

Mmm. Not to derail the thread of an artist I really love but it's not about it being safe for white kids or not. He's not trying to make it safe or approaching it ironically - just filtering his interests/influences through his personal musical sensibilities. It seems fairly uncontroversial to me to suggest that people are frequently influenced by music without replicating it in their own output. He's not making R&B. Just influenced by it.

already totally despise how to dress well

can't remember anything from the one song i listened to apart from a) the song was boring b) his voice was intolerable c) it sounded like it was recorded in a toilet, three rooms away

kinda wish folks wouldnt worry about 'sensibilities' & worry more abt writing good songs bcuz when it comes down to it the affects of R&B dont matter like the songwriting does

i dont know anything abt this band, whether id side w/ lex on it or not, just sayin

can't remember anything from the one song i listened to apart from a) the song was boring b) his voice was intolerable c) it sounded like it was recorded in a toilet, three rooms away

Now those are valid reasons not to listen to HtDW. I'm with Alex, though; I think the guy's got a fair amount of talent and could turn out some genuinely great more conventional R&B if he wanted to, and his heart is in the right place. He's honoring R&B, not sanitizing it.

kinda wish folks wouldnt worry about 'sensibilities' & worry more abt writing good songs bcuz when it comes down to it the affects of R&B dont matter like the songwriting does

Unfortunately, with HtDW the sensibilities and the songs are really one and the same... he deliberately slathers affects over his songs to render the lyrics indecipherable, so for better or worse his songs are more about mood than sentiment. That's a big part of why his album is so divisive.

ryan leslie already made 'gibberish'

thats a one-song gimmick imo