crazy chinese mother

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seems like the common thread through all this sort of high achievement theory and the world of zuckerbergs is a lack of introspection - some sort of feeling that taking a moment to question yr own motivation is the ultimate betrayal - that the only things of value are those that can be captured and held

The main idea I took away from the article is "asians have a narrow definition of success."

fb friend commenting on this article my mom was the original Tiger Mother.

― ice cr?m, Sunday, January 9, 2011 11:39 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

btw this girl is v successful and completely batshit

The main idea I took away from the article is "asians have a narrow definition of success."

funny how asians have devoted most study and devotion to the very beliefs jho (and I) would promote regarding fulfilment thru inner peace and one-ness with the cosmos

as I say, this article is narrow, not asians

ur narrow

ur mom's anything but narrow

My idea of succcess is actually not to be anything like my crazy chinese mother.

'Nothing is fun until you're good at it' is such grade A nonsense. Being good at things is fun, but so is a whole load of other stuff.

I found basketball to be an enjoyable game. I am not good at it.

it's just funny because imagine how frantic that ethos is going to make you about anything competitive, which, under this ethos, is everything

I mean my entire life I've struggled with self-criticism and frantically telling myself that I had to be good at it to participate, or I shouldn't bother, but see I always thought this made me wrong....thanks chinese mom!

ur mom's anything but narrow

― http://i26.tinypic.com/2ajucf4.jpg (acoleuthic), Sunday, January 9, 2011 12:04 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

whoa! WHOA! OVER THE LINE.

yes, her belly certainly is

I mean my entire life I've struggled with self-criticism and frantically telling myself that I had to be good at it to participate, or I shouldn't bother, but see I always thought this made me wrong....thanks chinese mom!

― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, January 9, 2011 5:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

^^^
Decadent Western mind set right there.

Actually what this reminds me of most is Tracey Flick and her mother.

being hilariously bad at things imo

lol tamtam itt

newspaper articles by parents about their children are almost always terrible, and often deliberate trolling on the part of comissioning editors

http://images.inmagine.com/img/inmagineasia/ins011/ins011042.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/djyrl.jpg

u will never ever play soccer aboobooboo

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newspaper articles by parents about their children are almost always terrible, and often deliberate trolling on the part of comissioning editors

― max bro'd (nakhchivan), Sunday, January 9, 2011 12:17 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Agreed. Haven't these kind of articles become pretty standard attention-grabbing-by-trolling fare as part of the fight against the declining journalism industry?

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/553141/553141,1266999345,1/stock-photo-an-asian-kid-crying-and-looking-sad-47408095.jpg

hush little whiner, u could be at Getty, Corbis, Associated Press by now, but oho u choose to have weak jaw, stubby fingers, colic, no sense of decorum.

there's nothing better for building confidence than learning you can do something you thought you couldn't.

Well, yeah. The real problem in the West is the confusion between self-esteem and self-efficacy, between "you're smart, you're talented" and "look what you accomplished with hard work." The confrontation with her daughter strikes me as insane: Of course there are ways to teach kids out of giving up that don't also involve teaching passivity to authority.

:) xp

I love the daughter saying, "I thought you were going to the Salvation Army, why are you still here?"

chinese people do better at maths because the way they're taught maths is better

Couldn't agree with this less - the single biggest controllable factor in how well kids do at maths is whether they live in a household where maths is prioritized and seen as important - nothing else matters a fraction as much.

gp otm. additionally, chinese classrooms are far, far more socially/cognitively/linguistically/culturally homogeneous than western classrooms, which makes teaching a far sight more efficient.

Jesus christ there's a lot of my crazy non-chinese mother in that article including but not limited to parents feeling their kids owe them something and the instrument stuff. I played both violin and piano and the practice time thing otm. This is a really great way to make your kids great at something but suck all enjoyment out of it for them.

man if my parents were like that about getting As in school I'd have been called "garbage" more than 30 times a month in high school

My mom hit me once because I got a C in shop. Anything less than As were "unacceptable".

Which is just to say that there are parents like this and def not only Asian ones.

o_O. geez

oh for sure there are. I've had friends who had such overbearing parents and see what it turned em into. it's no wonder the suicide rate is so high among teens, everything feels like life or death until you get the proper perspective as an adult.

whats the logic in prioritizing music over sports, sports id think correlate better to 'success in life'

sports is for poor people

in sports someone else gets the satisfaction of the routine mental abuse of your child

^^^^ lol

lol jordan otm

one of my favorite memories as a young teen was my brother playing in a soccer game and this anonymous parent, for whatever reason, kept riding him the whole game, and finally he said it again and my mother turned around and SHRIEKED at him to shut the hell up and leave him alone, and the sideline was silent for like a half hour.

haha jordan

http://i35.tinypic.com/d798m.jpg

man if my parents were like that about getting As in school I'd have been called "garbage" more than 30 times a month in high school

― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, 9 January 2011 22:05 (18 minutes ago)

haha god yes. i almost didn't graduate from high school. if she were my mother that woman would have had seizures.

i participated in various sports through most of my school days and i don't think i ever witnessed more parent-->child verbal abuse than when i was in wrestling during elementary school. bothered the hell out of me and made me so appreciative of my nice, supportive parents.

my parents were uber supportive. they probably went to every sporting event, recital, theatrical performance I was ever a part of up until they moved out of state 1.5 years ago.

sports seen as lowbrow; music seen as highbrow.

one of my favorite memories as a young teen was my brother playing in a soccer game and this anonymous parent, for whatever reason, kept riding him the whole game, and finally he said it again and my mother turned around and SHRIEKED at him to shut the hell up and leave him alone, and the sideline was silent for like a half hour.

haha, dude, this happened to me when i was maybe thirteen or something, and my friend/teammate's dad kept yelling from the sidelines at me during a game (he wasn't even a coach at the time) and then finally i stopped running and looked at him and just yelled "okay, okay... SHUT. UP!!". I just couldn't help myself any longer. after the game my mom was like "oh i can understand why you were frustrated but there was probably a better way of dealing with that situation..."

fucking adults amirite (btw i am 38 as i write this :/)

keep thinking this says crazy chinese motherfuckers

fine motor skills vs gross motor skills xp

oh i can understand why you were frustrated but there was probably a better way of dealing with that situation

probably not honestly

that seems like a pretty accurate description of new haven?

Note: Lulu and I had Uglydolls before they became kitschy. Like, before they turned Trey into a girl.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OzvonJfIDtM/TrQHZBQP0JI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/sWhSBd4RXWs/s600/college2+0202.jpg

uh oh

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ws of shame-o-meter just went haywire

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http://shanghaiist.com/2011/11/17/tiger-mom-wolf-father.php

When I was little, my mom told me never to complain about anti-Asian discrimination. “It’s the easiest stereotype to overcome,” she pointed out. “If you don’t like the model minority stereotype, all you have to do is get a nose ring.” And indeed, today, Asians in America are successfully outgrowing the model minority fable. But the stereotype is changing much faster than the population; the stereotype has become amorphous, all-encompassing, and practically impossible to overcome. And even when exceptions are identified, I’m not sure they should be. Why does Jeremy Lin have to be the exception to the rule? Why can’t he just be a posterchild for everything awesome and empowering about this (our) generation of rule-breaking Asian-Americans?

Anyways, that’s my rant of the month. By the way, I mean rule-breaking in a broad sense. Of course we still do our homework. Oh, and Jeremy Lin...here’s my number, so call me maybe?

http://tigersophia.blogspot.com/2012/03/claws-out-brace-yourself.html

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So it's settled, i'll be rapping in chinese class this friday. #baller

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always wanted song dandan as my momssssss

http://www.montgomerynews.com/articles/2012/05/29/ambler_gazette/news/doc4fc59f4dde4b6001668384.txt

dang

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did they get a gift basket?

buzza, interacialist

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/9375038/Australian-student-mocked-after-appealing-99.95-per-cent-exam-score.html

ugh, they're yankees fans. WS hall of shame.

https://twitter.com/SophiaCaribou/status/234743650410700801/photo/1/large

carry an axe around & shes got an easy nicholson in the shining halloween costume, stuff of nightmares

he didn't wear a tiger jacket or a skirt in that movie.

nah i just mean her face

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215667/Rescuers-sent-save-Eagle-Dad-ignored-warnings-took-long-suffering-son-trek-Mount-Fuji.html

The pushy parent had brought only a chocolate bar and a cup of water for rations, thinking there would be shops en route.

He soon realised that, 'unlike a lot of Chinese mountains', Fuji does not have steps, according to Chinese media sources.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/04/tiger-mom-some-groups-are-just-better-than-others/

Yeah, I was about to post that in the race thread but since the original post asked for only Important Race Discussions and that will only bring about "yeah, what the fuck, this is dumb" reactions, I decided not to.

"triple package" is one of the worst attempted thinkmemes I've ever heard

it's interesting though that the combination of "superiority" and "insecurity" is normally described more succinctly as "narcissism." Which I do indeed believe is a common trait of the "successful."

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/books/2014/02/amy_chua_and_jed_rubenfeld_s_the_triple_package_reviewed.html

The only thing you need to read about their new book, really

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/jed-rubenfeld-amy-chua-yale-law-school.html

idk if ilx has discussed this elsewhere. until recently i'd totally forgotten what the tiger mom's actual job was. seems like maybe elite law schools shouldn't exist.

Durrrrr, actually she’s been really busy:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/amy-chua-advice-brett-kavanaugh-clerks-report.html

Guess Amy Chua’s high praise of Kavanaugh finally paid off. Her daughter, Sophia Chua, is now his intern at the Supreme Court. You don’t need to be a Tiger Mom to have successful kids, you just need to sell your soul and shit on women. pic.twitter.com/bWaSN4qFLu

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