crazy chinese mother

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

waiting for the big 'gotcha!' where the author reveals she was trolling us all along

I'm sure if you went to whatever institution her kids are in in 20 years, they'll say their mom did right

all asian parents are like this

laughed out loud at

What Chinese parents understand is that nothing is fun until you're good at it.

i'm gonna raise my kids like this. i'll tell u what happens

this is like a daily mail article

guess old rupe knows about the subject at hand tho

dr whiney phd cultural study #5, right?

a friend of mine when i was growing up kind of had this upbringing, and was half-chinese, but it was all her german mother (the only parent in the history of parents to think i was a "dangerous influence", which was of course awesome) and not her really laid-back chinese father.

This is actually why I never call my mother now.

fb friend commenting on this article my mom was the original Tiger Mother.

http://grab.by/8hox
das right

hot half-asian daughters http://i.imgur.com/O6lPk.gif

As an adult, I once did the same thing to Sophia, calling her garbage in English when she acted extremely disrespectfully toward me. When I mentioned that I had done this at a dinner party, I was immediately ostracized. One guest named Marcy got so upset she broke down in tears and had to leave early. My friend Susan, the host, tried to rehabilitate me with the remaining guests.

A+ irl trolling

i haven't read the article yet and don't expect much from it, but

What Chinese parents understand is that nothing is fun until you're good at it.

i definitely lean towards thinking that nothing is fun unless you're good at it

just as well i'm not gonna have kids eh

i remember years ago in nyc, this chinese girl at columbia self-immolated in her dorm room during parent week

her parents were probably screaming at the smoke - LOOK AT YOU FATSMOKE

irl guilty lolz

this is basically, as nakhchivan says, a really reductive portrayal of chinese people. it refers at best to a tiny class (not race) stratum and shouldn't be taken the slightest bit seriously. chinese people do better at maths because the way they're taught maths is better (and the language is probably neurologically more suited to it) (idk)

What is with the "can only play the piano or violin" fascism?

yea wtf is wrong with the oboe

piano & violin are classy and difficult - no glory in scrub instruments

instrumentist

seems like the common thread through all this sort of high achievement theory and the world of zuckerbergs is a lack of introspection - some sort of feeling that taking a moment to question yr own motivation is the ultimate betrayal - that the only things of value are those that can be captured and held

The main idea I took away from the article is "asians have a narrow definition of success."

fb friend commenting on this article my mom was the original Tiger Mother.

― ice cr?m, Sunday, January 9, 2011 11:39 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

btw this girl is v successful and completely batshit

The main idea I took away from the article is "asians have a narrow definition of success."

funny how asians have devoted most study and devotion to the very beliefs jho (and I) would promote regarding fulfilment thru inner peace and one-ness with the cosmos

as I say, this article is narrow, not asians

ur narrow

ur mom's anything but narrow

My idea of succcess is actually not to be anything like my crazy chinese mother.

'Nothing is fun until you're good at it' is such grade A nonsense. Being good at things is fun, but so is a whole load of other stuff.

I found basketball to be an enjoyable game. I am not good at it.

it's just funny because imagine how frantic that ethos is going to make you about anything competitive, which, under this ethos, is everything

I mean my entire life I've struggled with self-criticism and frantically telling myself that I had to be good at it to participate, or I shouldn't bother, but see I always thought this made me wrong....thanks chinese mom!

ur mom's anything but narrow

― http://i26.tinypic.com/2ajucf4.jpg (acoleuthic), Sunday, January 9, 2011 12:04 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

whoa! WHOA! OVER THE LINE.

yes, her belly certainly is

I mean my entire life I've struggled with self-criticism and frantically telling myself that I had to be good at it to participate, or I shouldn't bother, but see I always thought this made me wrong....thanks chinese mom!

― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, January 9, 2011 5:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

^^^
Decadent Western mind set right there.

Actually what this reminds me of most is Tracey Flick and her mother.

being hilariously bad at things imo

lol tamtam itt

newspaper articles by parents about their children are almost always terrible, and often deliberate trolling on the part of comissioning editors

http://images.inmagine.com/img/inmagineasia/ins011/ins011042.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/djyrl.jpg

u will never ever play soccer aboobooboo

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/553141/553141,1266999345,1/stock-photo-an-asian-kid-crying-and-looking-sad-47408095.jpg

newspaper articles by parents about their children are almost always terrible, and often deliberate trolling on the part of comissioning editors

― max bro'd (nakhchivan), Sunday, January 9, 2011 12:17 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Agreed. Haven't these kind of articles become pretty standard attention-grabbing-by-trolling fare as part of the fight against the declining journalism industry?

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/553141/553141,1266999345,1/stock-photo-an-asian-kid-crying-and-looking-sad-47408095.jpg

hush little whiner, u could be at Getty, Corbis, Associated Press by now, but oho u choose to have weak jaw, stubby fingers, colic, no sense of decorum.

there's nothing better for building confidence than learning you can do something you thought you couldn't.

Well, yeah. The real problem in the West is the confusion between self-esteem and self-efficacy, between "you're smart, you're talented" and "look what you accomplished with hard work." The confrontation with her daughter strikes me as insane: Of course there are ways to teach kids out of giving up that don't also involve teaching passivity to authority.

:) xp

I love the daughter saying, "I thought you were going to the Salvation Army, why are you still here?"

chinese people do better at maths because the way they're taught maths is better

Couldn't agree with this less - the single biggest controllable factor in how well kids do at maths is whether they live in a household where maths is prioritized and seen as important - nothing else matters a fraction as much.

gp otm. additionally, chinese classrooms are far, far more socially/cognitively/linguistically/culturally homogeneous than western classrooms, which makes teaching a far sight more efficient.

Jesus christ there's a lot of my crazy non-chinese mother in that article including but not limited to parents feeling their kids owe them something and the instrument stuff. I played both violin and piano and the practice time thing otm. This is a really great way to make your kids great at something but suck all enjoyment out of it for them.

"Say hi to your mother for me."

typically shitty coverage of ccm on newsnight

fucking wite ppl

ccm is fairly serene and selfreflexive for a cuckold and pr bankrupt

they have her next to some flinty lumpenbourgie english nothing person who has written some other book about childrearing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27xDyihzilU

semper_phi Sophia ChuaRubenfeld

Am I allowed to take this art history class? I don't have a scarf on, I have no artistic ability, and I'm wearing cowboy boots.

she seems to satisfy 2 out of the 3 requirements?

her blog is cute

4. The Crying of Lot 49, by Thomas Pynchon
Weird little book. You're carefully marching along, and then you realize things are happening right and left, and you frantically try to snatch at the pieces. It's like being in the middle of a giant conspiracy theory...more of an experience than a novel.

tangentially related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMfihId30ME

via one of the noise dude threads

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UM2bu23Uq2U/TZaOWw_cQOI/AAAAAAAAAAU/VuJLqfyVgUw/s660/tiger.jpg

dayo what does the calligraphy say

I fuck goats

wait no "Benevolence to all"

uhuh

Someone brought up "the tiger mother controversy" in class tonight and it took me minutes....minutes...before I realized what he was talking about. During those minutes I imagined a rascally lactating tiger.

it says 秋鸿春...

assuming it's from the ci poem: 一番雨过，江头绿涨，催唤扁舟解去。重来言语是相宽，怎得似、而今且住。 阳关声断，同心未绾，簌簌泪珠无数。秋鸿春燕往还时，莫忘了、锦笺分付。

http://tigersophia.blogspot.com/2011/10/no-one-gets-my-doors-quotes-i-give-up.html

@semper_phi Sophia ChuaRubenfeld
Might bitchslap this lady on the T who is trashing new haven #SoSorry #DidntKnowYouOrderedAMaximumSecurityPrincessPalace #MyBad

that seems like a pretty accurate description of new haven?

Note: Lulu and I had Uglydolls before they became kitschy. Like, before they turned Trey into a girl.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OzvonJfIDtM/TrQHZBQP0JI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/sWhSBd4RXWs/s600/college2+0202.jpg

uh oh

semper_phi Sophia ChuaRubenfeld
Thank you, occupy Boston, for keeping me out of my room and library tonight. I'm sure the policemen you're keeping awake appreciate it too
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ws of shame-o-meter just went haywire

semper_phi Sophia ChuaRubenfeld
harvard yard a ghost town; only those w IDs are allowed in for safety of #occupyharvard campers. the 99% is now physically locked out #irony
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http://shanghaiist.com/2011/11/17/tiger-mom-wolf-father.php

When I was little, my mom told me never to complain about anti-Asian discrimination. “It’s the easiest stereotype to overcome,” she pointed out. “If you don’t like the model minority stereotype, all you have to do is get a nose ring.” And indeed, today, Asians in America are successfully outgrowing the model minority fable. But the stereotype is changing much faster than the population; the stereotype has become amorphous, all-encompassing, and practically impossible to overcome. And even when exceptions are identified, I’m not sure they should be. Why does Jeremy Lin have to be the exception to the rule? Why can’t he just be a posterchild for everything awesome and empowering about this (our) generation of rule-breaking Asian-Americans?

Anyways, that’s my rant of the month. By the way, I mean rule-breaking in a broad sense. Of course we still do our homework. Oh, and Jeremy Lin...here’s my number, so call me maybe?

http://tigersophia.blogspot.com/2012/03/claws-out-brace-yourself.html

26 Mar Sophia ChuaRubenfeld ‏ @SophiaCaribou

So it's settled, i'll be rapping in chinese class this friday. #baller

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always wanted song dandan as my momssssss

http://www.montgomerynews.com/articles/2012/05/29/ambler_gazette/news/doc4fc59f4dde4b6001668384.txt

dang

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x-3_MCcr1E0/T-vEKrZXBzI/AAAAAAAAARA/278X608c-Kg/s640/465249_456508041026850_55264270_o.jpg

did they get a gift basket?

buzza, interacialist

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/9375038/Australian-student-mocked-after-appealing-99.95-per-cent-exam-score.html

ugh, they're yankees fans. WS hall of shame.

https://twitter.com/SophiaCaribou/status/234743650410700801/photo/1/large

carry an axe around & shes got an easy nicholson in the shining halloween costume, stuff of nightmares

he didn't wear a tiger jacket or a skirt in that movie.

nah i just mean her face

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215667/Rescuers-sent-save-Eagle-Dad-ignored-warnings-took-long-suffering-son-trek-Mount-Fuji.html

The pushy parent had brought only a chocolate bar and a cup of water for rations, thinking there would be shops en route.

He soon realised that, 'unlike a lot of Chinese mountains', Fuji does not have steps, according to Chinese media sources.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/04/tiger-mom-some-groups-are-just-better-than-others/

Yeah, I was about to post that in the race thread but since the original post asked for only Important Race Discussions and that will only bring about "yeah, what the fuck, this is dumb" reactions, I decided not to.

"triple package" is one of the worst attempted thinkmemes I've ever heard

it's interesting though that the combination of "superiority" and "insecurity" is normally described more succinctly as "narcissism." Which I do indeed believe is a common trait of the "successful."

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/books/2014/02/amy_chua_and_jed_rubenfeld_s_the_triple_package_reviewed.html

The only thing you need to read about their new book, really

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/jed-rubenfeld-amy-chua-yale-law-school.html

idk if ilx has discussed this elsewhere. until recently i'd totally forgotten what the tiger mom's actual job was. seems like maybe elite law schools shouldn't exist.

Durrrrr, actually she’s been really busy:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/amy-chua-advice-brett-kavanaugh-clerks-report.html

Guess Amy Chua’s high praise of Kavanaugh finally paid off. Her daughter, Sophia Chua, is now his intern at the Supreme Court. You don’t need to be a Tiger Mom to have successful kids, you just need to sell your soul and shit on women. pic.twitter.com/bWaSN4qFLu

— Talent (@Talentiest) June 10, 2019