2010 GOON POLL results: The Top 30 Hip-Hop/Rap Albums of 2010

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13. Gucci Mane - Mr. Zone 6

if you're not paying attention you'd just think it was any hip-hop mixtape w/above-average rapping but no real energy or sense of fun

lol i didn't say exactly this & i totally disagree w/ the last part

no real energy or sense of fun

?? the sense of fun is like the most obvious thing about it!

loooool someone just sent me this

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leo7bofdE01qzoj6fo1_500.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyMdOiZvE6Y&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fx9uZ2yOWc

if u dont like the horrorcore realness that tyler and earl bring u might still like the mellowhype album - it has the same unburdened, anarchic joy but its not as dark

lol lex

?? the sense of fun is like the most obvious thing about it!

oh ok i guess teenage boys do find things like sub-jackass body grossness and rape jokes "fun"

i can't imagine not liking horrorcore shit

Yes, fun is the whole point. These are just kids goofing off, being deliberately provocative and having a great time doing it.

yup

god lex you're so grown up

like if you can't sit down and watch Evil Dead with me, fuiud for real

yeah mellowhype is odd future's take on southern rap, that might be more agreeable

Yes, fun is the whole point. These are just kids goofing off, being deliberately provocative and having a great time doing it.

yeah i get this, i hated that kind of fun when i had to be around teenage boys and still hate it now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwkhXeF6U70&feature=related

What a beat.

not grown man shit

I really think this is the most succinct capture of their appeal anybody's said about them.

it's not like i hate the horrorcore steez by default, though comparing odd future to prime three 6 really isn't a good look for them

Yeah but most grown man shit is fucking boring.

horrcore isn't exactly right tho

curious @ what kind of teenage boy was lex? Be and my best friend would watch Troma shit, John Waters shit, Sam Raimi ish all day long. Blast Ministy and Anthrax records and play Mortal Kombat and fuck yeah dude

I don't see how odd future's horrorcore silliness is any less enjoyable/more offensive than standard coke-dealer gangster shit. if anything the latter's more offensive cuz it takes itself so much more seriously

it really is just teenage boy skater/class clown shit filtered thru 'slim shady lp'

seriously

there's two diff things at play

1. do you think skater pranking shit like this is fun personally? this is debateable
2. is there a sense of fun in odd future's music? i think this is not v debateable

Be and my best friend would watch Troma shit, John Waters shit, Sam Raimi ish all day long. Blast Ministy and Anthrax records and play Mortal Kombat and fuck yeah dude

^^^yeah I did this too

And southern-by-way-of-El-P beats.

Plus like with the "Earl" video... it's so obvious they DON'T drink that drug concoction (it would probably literally kill everyone who did) and half of their "bleeding" is obviously just for shits and giggles. The seizure, too, obvs fake.

1. do you think skater pranking shit like this is fun personally?

yeah i basically think this is the worst shit

this conversation has actually made me dislike odd future way more than i did based on the music!

it's so obvious they DON'T drink that drug concoction (it would probably literally kill everyone who did) and half of their "bleeding" is obviously just for shits and giggles.

well yeah duh but it's not funny

horrcore isn't exactly right tho

yah its not like that video deej posted of dudes gangraping some girl during a home invasion or w/e - its a more muted/straightfaced take on like louis logic-style shock lolz, maybe?

as a teenage boy i read a lot of books and listened to erykah badu and tori amos?

amazed at the amazement that lex does not like o.f.

it's so obvious they DON'T drink that drug concoction (it would probably literally kill everyone who did) and half of their "bleeding" is obviously just for shits and giggles.

well yeah duh but it's not funny

― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, January 7, 2011 2:25 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark

Well, I'm not saying it's necessarily funny, but there's a difference between "funny" and "fun."

BTW... Louis Logic. He put out two great records then fell off the face of the planet.

yah its not like that video deej posted of dudes gangraping some girl during a home invasion or w/e

link plz

alright post #12 whiney

im cool w/ people being defensive about odd future, its weird to me though when you guys try to make the case that its somehow 'superior' to 'other rap' -- like this weird strawman gangster rap that takes itself soooo seriously ... the biggest gangster rap hero on this board for the last few years has been gucci who doesnt take himself seriously whatsoever. and odd future dudes repeatedly claim inspiration from the gangster stuff that shakey would *r m d e* at i.e. waka.

i think the punk ethos by way of rapping makes sense as a defense but itt lex is being pretty reasonable about explaining why he doesnt like it. i feel similarly altho more 'i would have loved this when i was 16 ... but im not' than 'i never would have loved this'

its also weird to me that like ... "it's so obvious they DON'T drink that drug concoction (it would probably literally kill everyone who did) and half of their "bleeding" is obviously just for shits and giggles."

so whats so great about insincerity & irony exactly? they're tools used just as sincerity is used by lil boosie, it doesnt make one inherently better than the other like i feel that post is arguing

yah its not like that video deej posted of dudes gangraping some girl during a home invasion or w/e - its a more muted/straightfaced take on like louis logic-style shock lolz, maybe?

― ⊚ ⓪ ㉧ ☉ ๏ ʘ ◉ ◎ ⓞ Ⓞ (Lamp), Friday, January 7, 2011 3:25 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to be clear i posted this w a tsk tsk not as an endorsement

pretty xxtreme stuff ... look up yukmouth / bogus boys on youtube

its weird to me though when you guys try to make the case that its somehow 'superior' to 'other rap'

has anyone here done this?

I don't see how odd future's horrorcore silliness is any less enjoyable/more offensive than standard coke-dealer gangster shit. if anything the latter's more offensive cuz it takes itself so much more seriously

― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, January 7, 2011 3:22 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its weird to me though when you guys try to make the case that its somehow 'superior' to 'other rap'

this is a weird statement to make considering this thread is gonna bear out that most of us actually like 'gangster rap' more than odd future this year

so you mean shakey

yeah let's have THAT argument again...
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also the beats i've heard from odd future aren't the sort that automatically push my pleasure buttons and override all of this (like jerk or three 6 mafia or WAKA) - they're the kind i actually need to be into the lyrics and aesthetic to appreciate

I'm pretty hard to offend tbh - I was referring to lex being offended by odd future in case that wasn't clear

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this has been a disaster

i'm not really offended, i'm just grossed out (and think being grossed out is a bad thing not a fun thing you bunch of 13-yr-old boys)

this is a weird statement to make considering this thread is gonna bear out that most of us actually like 'gangster rap' more than odd future this year

― J0rdan S., Friday, January 7, 2011 3:32 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark

? i dont think gangster is 'better' than odd future either, and i wasnt saying 'everyone in this thread thinks oddfuture>gangster rap.' although i do have an ideological/political bias arguing that theres a good reason the drama around drug crime / drug prohibition is so central to rap

most of us actually like 'gangster rap' more than odd future this year

^^^also this. I find Odd Future entertaining but I haven't bothered beyond youtubes whereas rap albums I paid money for this year = E-40, Ghostface, DJ Quik

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its also weird to me that like ... "it's so obvious they DON'T drink that drug concoction (it would probably literally kill everyone who did) and half of their "bleeding" is obviously just for shits and giggles."

so whats so great about insincerity & irony exactly? they're tools used just as sincerity is used by lil boosie, it doesnt make one inherently better than the other like i feel that post is arguing

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Friday, January 7, 2011 2:29 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, I wasn't trying to say that at all. I wasn't making a value judgment, nor saying that there's anything insincere or ironic about the video.

hey whiney post #12

but keep fightin them strawmen deej! it's clearly yr calling

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