Mondeo Pop

turin brakes 'pain killer' is calling - will MP accept the charges?

Well, no Travis started as a post Britpop rock act, like Silversun or The Supernaturals.

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Someone's gonna mention Starsailor in a minute and then we're gonna be all "oh shi"

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i have no idea how travis got compared to radiohead, but that's what happened. based on 'high and dry' and um, er...

when Starsailor released 'Alcoholic' i fucking called it re Darkside Danny Wilson

Quitney: Godrich production, Healy aproximating that vocal styling, Radiohead being a bit closer to Mondeo Pop than anyone would care to admit.

We need Singstar: Mondeo Pop ASAP

Songsmithery in the modern world?

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Poor quitney Dr Morbius on one side Mondeo Mafia on the other. Stay strong buddy.

there are always going to be continuities, but that album represents a decisive shift from true-school mondeo.

the fray -- who?
coldplay -- no
razorlight -- rockist
the feeling -- no fucking way
the view -- uh?
the killers -- lol the killers
james morrison -- no, too 'heart on sleeve'
the kooks - lol the kooks
keane -- no, too sincere

i mean none of that lot have anything to do with the beautiful south.

and most of them are for traditional instrumentation and straightforward production, which T4F and prefab sprout were not.

i can almost hear 'Fill My Little World' as a Wet Wet Wet song tho - almost. maybe it's just the "riight up, riight up" bit.

Keane definitely like to stray into the blurry territory - Everything's Changing and Is It Any Wonder' esp. - the former could easily pass for late Tears For Fears altho I guess the latter is too U2/stadium. Beautiful South are an anomaly really, incomparable to anything else as pop 'force'.

re: the feeling. it's an attitude thing. it's about where they're from. it's about class.

i need to go back and listen to more, read up, research, perhaps.

Beautiful South are an anomaly really, incomparable to anything else as pop 'force'.

-- blueski, Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, this is true also. they're not really very much like the others...

it's also an image thing re The Feeling. they really look American to me somehow.

kind of disagree about Razorlight as well if you actually listen to 'America' and 'Before I Fall To Pieces' from sonic pov.

remind me: 'Dakota' is too rawky right?

i think new order's 'republic' is mondeo, to follow up on the electronic reference.

Beautiful South are an anomaly really, incomparable to anything else as pop 'force'.

-- blueski, Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, this is true also. they're not really very much like the others...

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:49 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

There's no one like The Beautiful South? For a band so despised in certain quarters that seems kind of notable. Surely yr Prefabs are kinda similar, pleasant music with cutting lyrics? But sonically you may be onto something.

TBS = not aspirational? some sort of book-smart sophistication but very self-aware, earnest and NEVER pretentious

Is that perhaps a Northern thing? Anti-pretention, pro-folkishness, irrespective of intellectual output?

I am actually confused what Quitney and Stevey are getting at. Are TBS sonically different or different in tone? Listening to You Keep It All in, it's more retro, less folky perhaps? I'd like to hear some Grime MC's rap over that "Murder in '73" bit.

I do think Catatonia bear some comparison with the Beautiful South. Not just thematically, there's also the way they both draw on similar pseudo-sophisticated retro stuff to try and glam-up their otherwise pumice-stone-grey and dirty-bath-brown sounds and ends up as this ghastly Pernod and Horlicks concoction.

Pernod and Horlicks

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'You Keep It All In' is bordering on 'Come Up And See Me' musically.

Which is / was also a local radio staple. This is the current playlist of a local radio station (Southern FM, the station that played the Mondeo Pop of my formative years)

Playlist

14.09.07

Amy Winehouse - Tears Dry On Their Own

Avril Lavinge - When You're Gone

Enrique Iglesias - Do You Know?

Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry

James Blunt - 1973

Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around

Kate Nash - Foundations

KT Tunstall - Hold On

Nelly Furtado - Say It Right

Plain White T's - Hey There Delilah

Rihanna - Shut Up & Drive

Robyn - With Every Heartbeat

Scouting For Girls - She's So Lovely

Sean Kingston - Beautiful Girls

Sugababes - About You Now

The Fray - How To Save A Life

The Hoosiers - Worried About Ray

I bet they sneak in "The King of Rock 'n Roll" most days though. I hope they do.

Last ten songs Virgin Radio (where I learned Mondeo Pop as a youth) has played:

James Blunt
1973

Bryan Adams
Run to you

Amy Winehouse
Rehab

The Clash
Should I stay or should I go

Alanis Morissette
You oughta know

Philip Oakey and Georgio Moroder
Together In Electric Dreams

The Twang
Two lovers

The Dandy Warhols
Bohemian like you

The Fratellis
Chelsea dagger

Semisonic
Secret smile

We're not in Kansas anymore.

Semisonic and Bryan Adams! That's not Mondeo Pop but it's in the zone.

Semisonic more than BA, definitely. Maybe if CAKE had come from Hull or Oldham they could have been a great British Mondeo Pop act.

Is Heart 106.2 Mondeo Pop? I don't think so; it's something softer, something worse.

I don't think a radio station in of itself can be Mondeo Pop. I think Lynx Java may have been pretty Mondeo Pop at one point, not now though.

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i just nominated Joe Jackson (post 1980?) as Mondeo Pop. evidence: steppin out on GTA soundtrack, playing piano for Suzanne Vega. also Different for Girls is on the Cold Feet soundtrack album.

yes?

Too new wave. I see where you're coming from, but he falls down around the same point that Squeeze do.

But... ah boy, let's just say this: The Cure had a Mondeo Pop period. "Fridays I'm In Love" especially.

I can't see the Blue Nile as MP, too angular, stark and downbeat, maybe if he's going through a divorce or his team have lost badly.

Prefab Sprout? The greatest hits album,yes. Any regular album, no.

Grand Theft Auto is Mondeo Pop??? I think my next invented genre will be either Nuts pop or Zoo pop.

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The Cure had a Mondeo Pop period. "Fridays I'm In Love" especially.

-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:36 (2 days ago) Link

for a very, very long time this was the only cure song i knew. i had no idea why they and their fans dressed so badly, and was like 'waht is gothic?' i have no idea what their deal was, but that song is a local radio banger.

"Love Cats" as well.

What a shit idea for a thread this was.

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^ ban

Perhaps it is you that is shook

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at 10:13am on September 18th, 2007
can scritti politti c. 'cupid & psyche' be recuperated from the dead hand of bawrin' post-punk/new-pop orthodoxy?
'the "word" girl' was a local radio banger, and 'small talk' is uber-mondeo. i could care less if ya boy gartside read some barthes.

at 1:40pm on September 18th, 2007
I never heard any Scritti till ILX. Actually that's not true, there was a song on a free Q CD from 1999. I was thinking about this. Wet Wet Wet was the band Green never had the guts to be. That's what I thought today as I listened to Sweet Little Mystery for about the 1000th time. I did buy a Stereolab album rather than Popped In Souled Out in Cash Converters at the weekend though.
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at 2:22pm on September 18th, 2007
wiki says wet wet wet -- "the wets", perhaps -- take their name from the scritti politti song 'gettin, havin' and holdin'. ver scritz were the soulboy band (simon reynolds says) it's okay to like.
similarly i think tim finney is denying blue nile's mondeo credentials coz they too are sort of hooked up to the quasi-avant talk talk tradition.
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at 10:54am
I don't think I've heard the Blue Nile. Tim is right. I think Mondeo Pop needs to be linked into some kind of erk world experience or something. I think if Scritti is Mondeo Pop then Madness could be considered. Well it Must Be Love, anyway. I think Mondeo Pop is not to be thought of in terms of bands. Like you were saying on ilx The Cure have one Mondeo Pop monster but are in no way a Mondeo Pop band.
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I think Mondeo Pop is not to be thought of in terms of bands.

that's what i said when i was born, about all phoney genres.

a cursory reading of the later wittgenstein would have told you that

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Mondeo Pop hits the mainstream.

I was just coming to mention that, did someone from here write that? (Wasn't Carrie Bradshaw one of Shampoo?)

Carrie Bradshaw: Sex In The City main character
John Bradshaw Layfield: pro-wrestling commentator

nice review! i've only heard 'she's so lovely' but that was enough.

I should note that it's not that I think The Blue Nile are too good to be mondeo-pop, just that there's something specific about the vibe i don't think they share, if i'm understanding it correctly. It starts to become diffuse otherwise, another name for MOR british pop-rock.

In the same way that I wouldn't describe post-"Sledgehammer" Peter Gabriel as mondeo-pop even if there are certain points of overlap.

jokes, bruv I worked for about 16 hours yesterday

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