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Jel, Sarah told me to tell you to tell yourself that you are being a dumbass.

Oops (Oops), Monday, 10 February 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

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jel -- (jel), Monday, 10 February 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Touche

Oops (Oops), Monday, 10 February 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

but really, I'm gonna retire from this thread

jel -- (jel), Monday, 10 February 2003 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Senator BRUCE. Begot by, the abuses of the old saloon, and hastened to maturity by the economic necessities and uncalculating enthusiasm of the World War, and by the lavish use of money and political threats by the Anti-Saloon League, national prohibition went into
legal effect upward of six years ago, but it can be truly said that, except to a highly qualified extent, it has never gone into practical effect at all. The appetite for drink, which has been one of the primal impulses of the great mass of human beings ever since Jesus at Cana manifested forth His glory, to use the words of St. John, by converting the water in six water pots into wine, has, In its struggle with the vast repressive agencies set in motion by the eighteenth amendment and the Volstead Act, furnished another illustration of the truth, which neither moralist nor statesman should ever forget, even in his most fervid moments of disinterested or generous feeling, that man is a creature who can be regulated and bettered, but can not be made over. Once, during the agitation for the abolition of human slavery, Henry Brougham decried what he termed "the wild and guilty fantasy that man can hold property in man." As wild and guilty is the fantasy that even the power of the Federal Government can totally divest man of his warm garment of animal sensations, desires, and appetites. Ever since the eighteenth amendment and the Volstead Act became parts of the legislation of our land the human instinct of personal liberty, guided by a correct sense of the limits within which natural law can be controlled by municipal ordinances, has maintained an unbroken resistance to them; and nothing can be more unwarranted than the statement often heard that this resistance is limited to a single self-indulgent social class.

It is not kept up more stoutly by what the prohibitionists, vainly seek to excite social disaffection and jealousy, call the smart social set, than it is by the members of the American Federation of Labor. It is not limited to any social class or sect. It has brought about close working relations between the bootlegger and thousands of the most intelligent and virtuous members of American society who feel no more compunction about violating the Volstead Act than the Free Soiler did about violating the fugitive slave law, or the southern white did about nullifying ignorant negro, suffrage, the Federal Constitution in each instance to the contrary notwithstanding And the ever mounting record of arrests for drunkenness in all of our American cities since the enactment of the Volstead Act indicates only too significantly that the humbler and less fortunate members of society have their illicit purveyors of drink too. The recent utterances of Jewish rabbis, Protestant bishops and ministers, and of Catholic prelates like Cardinals O'Connell and Hayes, demonstrate the existence of a growing feeling, even among the American clergy, that absolute prohibition is not the ally but the enemy of human morality.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 10 February 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

oy.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 10 February 2003 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Senator BRUSHES. Begot surrounds, abuses of old hall, and accelerated to maturity by necessities economic and enthusiasm uncalculating of world war, and by use prodigal of money and of threats political by league of Against-Hall, prohibition national entered effect legal upwards does of six years, but truth can to be this which, unless a highly qualified degree, never _ has entered practical effect all appetite for drink, that to have to be one main great impulse human mass to be since then Jesus in Grey hair to show ahead its glory, to use word st. Juan, to turn water six water pote in wine, to have, in its extensive fight with repressive agency to fix to movement by eighteenth amendment and Volstead act, to equip another illustration truth, that neither moralistic nor statesman to always have to forget, uniforms in his the more fervid moment disinterested or abundant sensation, that man to be one creature who power to be to regulate and to improve, but to be able not to be to do above. Once, during the agitation for the abolition of the human slavery, the Brougham henry denigrated what it called "the wild and guilty fantasy that the man can carry out the characteristic in man." Wild and then guilty it is the fantasy that the energy of the federal government even can prevail totally to man of its hot clothes of the sensations, desires, and the appetites animals. Since then the tenth eighth amendment and Volstead the act became parts of the legislation of our earth the human instinct of the personal freedom, directed by a correct sense of the limits within which the natural right can be controlled by municipal ordinances, it has maintained an intact resistance to them; and nothing can be more unjustifiable than the declaration often heard that this resistance is limited a single social class one sameone. It is not continued reason why they call prohibitionists, vainly search to excite disaffection and social jealousy, the elegant social system, that it is in favor more bravely of the members of the American federation of the work. Any social class or sect is not limited. It has brought near relations of work around between bootlegger and the thousands of the most intelligent and more virtuous members of American society that does not feel not more of remorse on the violation of the act of Volstead that the free Soiler did on the violation of the law of the slave of the fugitive one, or the southern target did on annulling to ignorante black, suffrage, the federal constitution in each case on the contrary in spite of and the file whenever it mounted of the haltings for the embriaguez in all our American cities since the promulgation of the act of Volstead indicates only too much perceivably that the humblest members and less lucky people of the society they also have illicit his purveyors of the drink. Jewish the recent elocutions of rabbis, protestant bishops and ministers, and of you bark catholics has taste of cardinals Ă“Connell and Hayes, demonstrates to the existence of a sensation every greater time, uniform between the American clergy, who the absolute prohibition is not the ally but the enemy of the human morality.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 10 February 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dang I was just thinking the other day that I should revive this and indeed get the last word.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 10 February 2003 21:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aaron, you're obviously missing the axiom here.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 10 February 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

ALL POSTS BELOW THIS ONE SHOULD BE ONLY BE MADE BY CHILD MOLESTERS AND MOMMY KILLERS

Oops (Oops), Monday, 10 February 2003 21:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

With the exception of this one...
And I am not a dumbass!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 10 February 2003 21:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

(you mommy killer!)

Oops (Oops), Monday, 10 February 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

oops thats not fair.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 10 February 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

me?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 04:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

B-b-but I'm Tha Threadkilla! ILX threads are the only things I ever kill! (Well, those and vodka bottles.)

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 05:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

shut UP!!!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Naughty Sterling.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks, Graham. Back to business as usual!

Sarah McL (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yo yo, MC L is in the muthafuckin' hizzouse!

oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is a really short thread, all things considered. 250-odd posts in over a month. If people really cared it'd be much longer.

So we might as well finish it now.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes, might as well.

Sarah???

oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, oops?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hm.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hm.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wow, the lights were too bright there.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Let's try again.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Much better. Soft lighting.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Never mind

oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Amateurist you've turned "Contribute an answer" yellow. Fix it, right now!

smee (smee), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Arrrghgh! THis yellow is not very soothing!

ARrrghhgh! I am a pirate!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

You prefer?

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lovely.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Amatuerist I'm gonna count to three.....

smee (smee), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

One

Two

Three

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK, sorry

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

What an amateur

oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:56 (twenty-one years ago) link















Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Now look what you've done!

smee (smee), Thursday, 13 February 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

What is that exactly?¶
Eh?

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 13 February 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

No masMas?

oops (Oops), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who will have the last word on this thread ?

jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dont' click on this...seriously, don't

oops (Oops), Friday, 14 February 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago) link