So who ARE that insufferable indie couple in the new Hyundai TV ads?

I have pants a lot like that, Scott, except they are green...

my best friend bought 'em at Goodwill for me for his bachelor party.

Yeah, I guess Tommy is "Yo dude I'm a prep," Polo is "I'm a prep" and Brooks Brothers is "What's a 'prep' these are just normal clothes what are you talking about?"

― hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, January 6, 2011 5:17 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

Too lazy to upload the right "this was a great zing" gif but I lol'd

First half of this thread really depressed me b/c like, man who cares? They're just having fun and making tunes and getting paid and maybe you don't dig their aesthetic, but really? Like maybe reserve your hate for something that's actually sinister (hey-oooooo Belle and Sebastian reference).

I appreciated that JBR went into some actual detail about what bugged her, but I guess I just have a hard time mustering up hate for people just because they are comfortable and privileged. I dunno, I thought ILM was generally opposed to the rockist notion that good art is made by "outsiders." Not that I necessarily think that Pomplamoose make "good art" -- I've only seen their TV-commercial Christmas songs, so I honestly don't know -- but I tend not to really give a shit what people represent or where they come from if their tunes work for me.

I liked the later posts by contenderizer and Helges0n more b/c they seemed to sum up why this particular twee style has become kind of bankrupt. I especially liked their concessions that it's an effective aesthetic choice that's not necessarily terrible in itself but that there's something annoying or soul-crushing about the way it's been coopted and sold. I'm still not sure I share those feelings (maybe I'm just not all that invested either way), but I thought the insights were good.

Congrats on the Mazda commercial jaymc - we know about it already and we won't hold it against you.

http://www.robertchristgau.com/icon/s2.gif

jaymc you should start a thread where you write PRR style reviews of ILX threads

Need jaymc awards to posters ITT

too cool for school

I appreciated that JBR went into some actual detail about what bugged her, but I guess I just have a hard time mustering up hate for people just because they are comfortable and privileged.

eh, it's envy more than hate. also, i'm kinda impressed that ppl like nataly exist -- she hit the fucking genetic/circumstantial jackpot and it's sobering when i take inventory of just how much that's true. and i really envy that she and her man had the luxury of quitting their (cushy) jobs because their youtube amateur-hour shit got into a commercial. she's already rich, can't someone else have some money now?

^ it's like, I remember a few years back the postman in this little depressed town won the lottery. He was one of those "well, I don't know what I'd do with myself if I didn't work" so he kept his job - his precious, covetable, stable, pensionable job in the shittiest economy in the country. Talk about the most hated guy in town... No reflection on the Pomp-lameos, just riffin'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveW9Tw2JKE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-iNQezfaBI

it's sobering when i take inventory of just how much that's true. and i really envy that she and her man had the luxury of quitting their (cushy) jobs because their youtube amateur-hour shit got into a commercial. she's already rich, can't someone else have some money now?

ooh ouch, yes, perhaps.

i really envy that she and her man had the luxury of quitting their (cushy) jobs because their youtube amateur-hour shit got into a commercial. she's already rich, can't someone else have some money now?

it's like sofia coppola, though. moose-girl's successful in part because she's so wholly, obviously and effortlessly the product of what she represents to people: a covetable life.

not to diminish the legitimate talent of either, to whatever extent it exists. i mean, no comment on pomplamoose in that regard, but i've got a lot of respect for SC as a filmmaker.

i have no idea what directions this thread took under the cut as i couldn't keep up, but it's not really the privilege that's so grating about these people. it doesn't help but they'd be as reprehensible without it.

Is this along similar lines to..

Auction News Story
Reporter: .. and t sold for 3 million pounds
Owner: Yes, I bought it in 1991 for £27,000
Reporter: That's a great result.

Even knowing that something was going to accrue that kind of value wouldn't have helped me or anyone I know in 1991.

the first time I knowingly heard "Telephone" by Lady Gaga it was actually the Pamplemousse version.. and I thought "What a great song! But hmm, it's like there's something missing." There was! Lady Gaga!

eh, it's envy more than hate. also, i'm kinda impressed that ppl like nataly exist -- she hit the fucking genetic/circumstantial jackpot and it's sobering when i take inventory of just how much that's true. and i really envy that she and her man had the luxury of quitting their (cushy) jobs because their youtube amateur-hour shit got into a commercial. she's already rich, can't someone else have some money now?

― PWN: The Paul Winfield Network (get bent), Friday, January 7, 2011 1:51 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ it's like, I remember a few years back the postman in this little depressed town won the lottery. He was one of those "well, I don't know what I'd do with myself if I didn't work" so he kept his job - his precious, covetable, stable, pensionable job in the shittiest economy in the country. Talk about the most hated guy in town... No reflection on the Pomp-lameos, just riffin'.

― we can only flee in abject horror from yesterday's mistakes (staggerlee), Friday, January 7, 2011 2:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yall set a low bar for privilege and envy - i mean u know there are people who own islands and jets right - show some ambition

Yea, but folk see them and think hey those people are not like me.

i don't have a problem with the people in the ad

Me neither, as these people actually exist. As opposed to those that host the fake "Halifax Radio Station"...

eh, it's envy more than hate. also, i'm kinda impressed that ppl like nataly exist -- she hit the fucking genetic/circumstantial jackpot and it's sobering when i take inventory of just how much that's true. and i really envy that she and her man had the luxury of quitting their (cushy) jobs because their youtube amateur-hour shit got into a commercial. she's already rich, can't someone else have some money now?

― PWN: The Paul Winfield Network (get bent), Friday, January 7, 2011 1:51 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ it's like, I remember a few years back the postman in this little depressed town won the lottery. He was one of those "well, I don't know what I'd do with myself if I didn't work" so he kept his job - his precious, covetable, stable, pensionable job in the shittiest economy in the country. Talk about the most hated guy in town... No reflection on the Pomp-lameos, just riffin'.

― we can only flee in abject horror from yesterday's mistakes (staggerlee), Friday, January 7, 2011 2:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these two posts are depressing!

the disintegrating middle class eats its own

The Pomplamoose folks obviously have talent; my issue is that the aesthetic in which they choose to express their talent really really really really REALLY really gets on my nerves. Really.

theyre maybe quasi competent - not feeling any sort of particular talent

There is talent involved in arranging songs; it just so happens that they use theirs in a manner I wholeheartedly despise.

It's like, all of the smugness of Ben Folds and none of the relatability.

lol @ anyone who relates to Ben Folds too

well yeah, ppl generally lol at losers, which was the entry point into Ben Folds' relatability (that first album played pretty heavily on the amiable sad sack card)

their level of arranging 'talent' is ime at the level of millions or tens of millions of people worldwide - at what point does talent become workmanlike average

tens of millions out of 6 billion is not actually average...?

I mean, if you're going to go to THAT scale, you have to go all the way and not just pick out the bits that make you look good

how many people attempt to arrange music ask yrself that smart guy

i kind of like the car they drive

another way to look at it: how many people do you know personally who could 'arrange some shit' as good as this

"A lot of people can do this" is not and never has been equivalent to "Anyone can do this"

another way to look at it: how many people do you know personally who could 'arrange some shit' as good as this

lol

I know a ton of people who could have done what they did, which does not actually have any bearing on whether it takes talent or skill to do it.

You basically are being an idiot.

ill give you skill but yr definition of talent is either v generous or you know idiotic

man there's no such thing as talent

see how you have devalued the concept djperry

I WIN

you are very talented

I do cop to using "talent" and "skill" kind of interchangeably; "talent" in and of itself is semi-meaningless because all it really is is an indication of how quickly you can pick something up

i feel like their 'talent' level is not noteworthy even if it may be statistically better than average, this is especially true in the context of ilx where they are notably below average in terms of the generally more pro music we usually talk abt

to me talent is something that jumps out and engages, some level of brilliance, never just o hey p good you mustve worked at that for a while - although obvs that definition has a lot to do w/putting in hard work too

Talent is abundant and dispensable - other factors count for I'd say at least precisely 95.8% of everything good in any artistic endeavour.

buncha gladwells the lot of u

just what i needed

her real talent is planting churches in godless europe, this music thing is the devil's work