the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

now that would have made the movie better

For those who haven't seen the sequels: wanna volunteer your reactions for watching just a 10min portion and seeing if it provokes any laffs/u get it? Please don't do this trying to prove me wrong, it's not an opinion I'll carry w/ me 2 tha grave.

I watched the whole thing about TPM yesterday. I haven't seen 2 or 3, but just watched the first ten minutes of the 2 review. Even though I hadn't seen it, the examples he shows comparing it to -- what was that, the Last Starfighter or somthing? -- proves his point. Then again, I haven't seen the movies so I have to take his word for it.

Turned it off at the point where he was asking his hostage for coffee.

Commander Nefarious, Captain I'm-a-Bad-Guy & Admiral Bone-to-Pick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTI3lejhGg

(this is also why sebastian shaw isn't all gross and scarred and crusty in ghost-form in the un-fucked-with version.)

Sebastian Shaw looks alot older than Hayden. I mean why isnt Ewan McGregor in place of Sir Alec Guiness now?

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also:

http://i.imgur.com/2PRHF.jpg

Futurama did the name thing better, when the characters participated a Sithal War re-enactment. They fought against Darth Stroyer, Darth Trocious, Darth Sploder, Darth Urderer, and Darth Ithead.

http://pool.theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/3/3d/Darths.png/225px-Darths.png

btw sic dont let anyone talk you into seeing these movies, u made the right choice

Yeah, and the reviews have a lot of interesting things to say about story structure etc, but there's no real point sitting through them if you haven't watched the prequels.

In a similar vein I watched about half of the Star Trek one last night, and it was good but there were too many references to old Trek stuff I know very little about for me to bother continuing.

haha thats my fav thing about the trek reviews... he really 'gets' trek! i love when he spots props reused in completely different movies

"...it just goes to show the importance of... Hey, what's that doing there? No, really! How did that GET there?"

Like I said, I never saw the movie and know nothing about the attempted assassination of Queen Amaladyada, but I was able to be entertained by his observations of the lack of logic of Obi jumping out the window, letting Boba Fett get away, the SHAPESHIFTER wearing a MASK, etc.

the funniest thing in the whole review is the shot of Sam L. Jackson with the tip of his lightsaber at the Emperor's throat, and we cut to ANAKIN, who is RUNNING into the room, but halfway across the screen he inexplicably slows to a very fast walk and kind of quick-waddles towards them

My favourite part of the Ep. 3 review is the clip of Lucas looking at photos of sets being built and saying "my god, they're building sets? I'd better start writing the script!"

I love how he points out the limitations of the tiny green screen sets vs. a massive soundstage, that the actors basically have 25 feet or so to work with as they walk and stop and talk. Reminds me of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, where the running through the woods stuff was basically shot by reusing the same 30 feet of woods over and over again because they only had a limited amount of dolly tracks.

My fave bit in the Star Trek review is when he tracks on the map the progress of the elevators or whatever through the ship, revealing that a) the old Trek creators cared about such a nerdy detail (that is, that it takes x seconds to move from point a to point b in the ship) and that the nu Trek folks couldn't give a shit, since their movie is not about nerdy details, per se, but about supercharging everything. Also, he's very OTM when he details the re-quel's pervasive case of the Not Gays.

For those who haven't seen the sequels: wanna volunteer your reactions for watching just a 10min portion and seeing if it provokes any laffs/u get it? Please don't do this trying to prove me wrong, it's not an opinion I'll carry w/ me 2 tha grave.

I saw a little bit of the first prequel and that's it. Watched all of the first review and some of the second, and thought they were lolsome.

'A little bit of the first prequel' totalling about two viewings of ten minutes or so apiece, I guess I should clarify. Really couldn't bring myself to watch any more.

Also, he's very OTM when he details the re-quel's pervasive case of the Not Gays.

LOL, especially w/Scotty and Bones, since they don't have love interests in the movie.

Sebastian Shaw looks alot older than Hayden. I mean why isnt Ewan McGregor in place of Sir Alec Guiness now?

cuz obi-wan remained in the light until his death and anakin strayed from it when he was younger. and yeah shaw was a lot older than christensen but back then we didn't know how old anakin was when he became vader or what he looked like or anything and a cleaned-up and smiling middle-aged guy worked fine.

like, this isn't some hugely important part of the movie and obv it is extremely dorky to argue about and it's probable george lucas has no idea what we're talking about and just shoved christensen in there in his mania to "link up" the two halves of his "vision" but this explanation makes more sense to me than "they look as luke remembers them", which if it were true would presumably require anakin to appear in a big scary suit.

They should've done the same thing in Godfather III with Fredo, the Don and Sonny.

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Lucas shoulda done 'pocket prequels' and made em all like trailer length instead

http://www.movieline.com/2011/01/george-lucas-believes-in-2012-for-real-says-concerned-citizen-seth-rogen.php

In a new Toronto Sun article, Rogen explains that a meeting with Lucas and Spielberg soured once the subject turned to Mayan calendar drama.

“George Lucas sits down and seriously proceeds to talk for around 25 minutes about how he thinks the world is gonna end in the year 2012, like, for real. He thinks it.

“He’s going on about the tectonic plates and all the time Spielberg is, like, rolling his eyes, like, ‘My nerdy friend won’t shut up, I’m sorry…’

“I first thought he (Lucas) was joking… and then I totally realized he was serious and then I started thinking, ‘If you’re George Lucas and you actually think the world is gonna end in a year, there’s no way you haven’t built a spaceship for yourself… So I asked him… ‘Can I have a seat on it?’

“He claimed he didn’t have a spaceship, but there’s no doubt there’s a Millennium Falcon in a garage somewhere with a pilot just waiting to go… It’s gonna be him and Steven Spielberg and I’ll be blown up like the rest of us.”

So Star Wars came into being just so he could have inspired enough geeks to create spaceships so one of them could take him away somewhere? With Spielberg?

Spielberg is, like, rolling his eyes, like, ‘My nerdy friend won’t shut up, I’m sorry…’

Makes me wonder what it must be like for Spielberg to still be friends with GL, (particularly after the SW prequels). GL *must* have asked him what he thought and would he just lie? say "they're not for me"? I mean S/berg at least can still make a decent film, so to see one of his oldest and richest pals actively desecrating his own legacy in new and exciting ways every year must affect the dynamic of their friendship. Especially as this is the man whose input made sure that the last Indy film was dead in the water.

Hang on now--Spielberg is the force behind Michael Bay's Transformers shitfests, and the man responsible for foisting Shia Lebouef on the world, so don't be giving him too much credit

plus yeah, i'm just as inclined to blame spielberg as lucas for that last indy shitfest.

foisting Shia Lebouef on the world

balls, that shit almost cancels out AI for me...

as for Indy blame, from what I understand it was Lucas that actively vetoed Frank Darabont's script and went with his own Mayan temple fixated horseshit, and that turd remained resolutely unpolished. Guess Spielberg can be blamed for agreeing to make the fucking thing, but the underpinning garbage = all GL.

If it wasn't for the piles of money he sleeps on at night, I'd call Lucas a tragic figure

from what I understand it was Lucas that actively vetoed Frank Darabont's script and went with his own Mayan temple fixated horseshit, and that turd remained resolutely unpolished. Guess Spielberg can be blamed for agreeing to make the fucking thing, but the underpinning garbage = all GL.

The actual screenplay was written by the guy who wrote the screenplay for Jurassic Park and its sequel, though. And I thought the whole alien plot was right up Spielberg's alley, after all he has been directing and producing various alien movies and TV series since 1977.

Both are 100% establishment hacks now and no doubt both have complete respect for each other as such.

spielberg doesnt seem like the kind of guy who'd be tortured over not being able to tell his friend that his movies suck - is probably just happy to nod and smile and be nice about it

It's like if your mate's in a band that you think are shit you just pretend that you like their band and hope they don't ask too many questions about why you like them.

Spielberg has produced tons of films, including Harry and the Hendersons and the live-action Flintstones and Casper movies. The movies he has directed himself - the latest IJ aside - have been pretty great.

I was surprised to see his name in the credits for True Grit.

It's like if your mate's in a band that you think are shit you just pretend that you like their band and hope they don't ask too many questions about why you like them.

GL: Say, Steve, so what did you make of The Revenge of The Sith?
SS: George, I thought it was just super, rly great. Also, Admiral Bone-To-Pick, I *loved* that guy.

Spielberg's last seven films as director are pretty patchy and there's a couple of outright disasters

2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

2005 Munich

2005 War of the Worlds

2004 The Terminal

2002 Catch Me If You Can

2002 Minority Report

2001 A.I. Artificial Intelligence

At least four of those movies are among the best he's ever done!

BTW, Spielberg helped storyboard and pre-viz the Anakin/Obi-Wan lava fight at the end of Revenge Of The Sith, so there you go.

The Terminal and A.I. suck and I haven't seen the last Indy movie, but the other movies are fine

Well, I adored AI, really liked Munich, CMIFC and WoTW and could probably watch Minority and The Terminal again. Only real stinker there imo is poor ol' Indy.

Re Anakin/Obi-Wan fight, apart from the skipping about on the river of lava I dug that well enough. Certainly chopped up charred up Ani was more than I expected to see so vividly rendered.

Crystal Skull - Crystal Shit more like
Munich - Very good
War of the Worlds - nice action, otherwise meh
The Terminal - Horribly misjudged IMO. Should've been a flat-out quirky comedy
Catch Me if You Can - Great fun on first viewing, tiring on second. Also kind of sexist.
Minority Report - Fantastic until the final act
A.I. - I thought it was a mess with a few great ideas when I saw it in the cinema, maybe I should watch it again

The Terminal and AI (although i know it has it's defenders) were the disasters i was referring to. Catch Me If You Can and Minority Report really don't hold up on repeat viewings. War of the Worlds pretty much sucks.

Dude directed The Lost World, cannot be trusted.

“He claimed he didn’t have a spaceship, but there’s no doubt there’s a Millennium Falcon in a garage somewhere with a pilot just waiting to go… It’s gonna be him and Steven Spielberg and I’ll be blown up like the rest of us.”

this is a movie worth watching! though it sounds like a south park premise.

this was a Simpsons episode, and a live Kids in the Hall bit (and Mr. Show too, iirc?)

Spielberge is on record as saying ..Clones is his 'second favourite Star Wars film'. also he features a fair bit in the extras on the prequels dvds apparantly although i haven't seen em.

are Munich and Catch Me If You Can any good then? i thought Speilberg was a washout these days but maybe.. not?

Munich is great, Catch Me If You Can is charming.

I saw the Robot Chicken version of Munich the other night. Yikes

there's some weird backwards thing going on with spielberg where the movies are executed with more confidence the further back in time you go.
i have nothing but hate for michael bay but you get the sense that the man has a clear and willful sense of exactly what kind of shit he's going to make you endure.