i don't have anything against it, myself. but the poignant beauty of ordinary humanity - the bathetic infatuation with clumsy frailty and endearing failure, as communicated by amateurish blankness and infantile affectation - has been exploited to death for decades by indie and post-indie and would-be-indie everything. in movies like juno and thumbsucker, on indie prints and greeting cards featuring awkward line drawings of birds (currently on sale in a bunch tiny shops on 5h in park slope), in back issues of mcsweeney's, in album after pitchfork-approved album of wounded & comforting soft sweater teatime glockenspiel music listened to, most likely, by someone you know and love. it's by no means an ineffective artistic stance: it works, communicates, gets a feeling across. but it's also so far beyond played that it's become a sickening zombie sham, a horrible cloud of kitsch that sucks the life out of everything it touches.this hyundai ad is just the they live moment - the point at which the whole world gets to try on the glasses and see what's really been going down.
this hyundai ad is just the they live moment - the point at which the whole world gets to try on the glasses and see what's really been going down.
just in case this goes into the fold
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I really want to repost that somewhere -- is there some kind of an "all time classic posts" thread?
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
truth bombs
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Summing-up-things-I-have-been-trying-to-put-my-finger-on-for-five-years bombs
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i should know better than to get sucked into a pomplamoose convo (they are wretched obv), but hes wrong - "so far beyond played" is meaningless except to say "i'm bored of this thing that a lot of other people like", which all of you of course agree with because only insanely jaded music blogger dorks post here
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
rong
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
ya im right sorry :-/
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway im out cuz this is 2 much ilm posting for me for one month but everyone just marinate on my rightness
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Calling out a music board post for having an element of subjectivity is so far beyond played.
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
hipster is such a cop out term, let it be people...
*swags out of post smoking an Earl Grey cigarette, rocking skinny overalls and a divining rod*
― natlawdp, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
"Hey, some people like this." Oh. Sorry. Lock thread.
this commercial's success has inspired me to form a group called Aubergine featuring a girl with Marfan syndrome and a retarded guy
― akm, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
marfan's is pretty played, dude
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
hey man just because u are sick of marfan syndrome doesn't mean....
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Ausberginers syndrome
― buzza, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I think I'll use this opportunity to post superior Bird & Bee covers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ed-LaBgQOk&feature=related
― Darin, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
just did a quick fb search and the first things that came up were "pomplamoose suck (person)", "i hate pomplamoose (community)", and "pomplamoose sucks (community)"
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
The Bird & The Bee >>> The Turd & The Grapefruit
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OBL-Bo2i-iIJ:www.myspace.com/aubergineband+aubergine+band&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
(because the profile was "under maintenance, here's the cached page)
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
"I really want to repost that somewhere -- is there some kind of an "all time classic posts" thread?"
i started this one for the tenth anniversary of anti-hipster vitriol:
In Honor Of ILX Being Ten, How About Some Quotable Posts Of Yore.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
this is how you do it, baby people!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m595h3_ner4
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
the thing that *really* bothers me about this stuff:
i grew up in the 80s and early 90s, in a bumfuck town. all the music i knew grewing up was 80s metal/pop metal, nothing but until rap came up...but everything was macho and hard basically....not that there weren't pathos in pop metal balladry, but there was something different about it more like "BABE WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME I'm GONNA GET WASTED AND SHOOT BBGUNS AT POP BOTTLES", or at least that's how it was to us, it was sort of a romantic idea of being sad, the way that you can only feel when you are young enough to not understand that things have consequences
when i first got a hint of "indie"sadness-- like just little glimpses like the song "they'll need a crane" by they might be giants, or the song "romeo had juliette" by lou reed (these were just the little bits i would see on MTV), it was this sense of experiencing something new, like real life sadness, the idea that you would have to grow up and leave your little town and face real stuff that wasn't always gonna work out the way you wanted it to...like it really affected me pretty strong,
now like contenderizer said, it's sort of this horror show zombie emotion, like fucking poignant commercials for insurance companies, the whole thing isn't bad cuz it cheapens indie rock, it's bad cuz it ad agencies are so hip and cool and good production values now, it almost cheapens the *idea* of emotions and feeling to me....
― the medina green preservation society (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVf7LUF-X-M
― old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
All I know is that we don't have these issues in Roots Rock land.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Let's hope the ad execs don't figure out neck beards might like Hyundais.
― Darin, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
all the music i knew grewing up was 80s metal/pop metal, nothing but until rap came up...but everything was macho and hard basically....not that there weren't pathos in pop metal balladry, but there was something different about it more like "BABE WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME I'm GONNA GET WASTED AND SHOOT BBGUNS AT POP BOTTLES
i grew up in the 80s. most of the dominant pop music -- in tone and lyrics -- had this uniquely 80s triumphalism. i guess we were collectively shaking off the feelings of US decline or defeatism in the 70s. in retrospect, it feels like the 80s had a lot of supposedly underground twee (or maybe "proto-twee") acts, but i don't really see bands like, say, the smiths as the grandfathers of the twee movement.
twee can be beautiful and moving. but there's a thin line between beautiful/moving twee and using the twee genre as cover for poor amaturism and poor songwriting and performance. i feel like this pomplamoose act is on the latter side of that divide, but what you see depends on where you sit, i suppose.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
well, i can't say "we" were shaking anything off. that's just how it felt to me at the time.
"it's bad cuz it ad agencies are so hip and cool and good production values now, it almost cheapens the *idea* of emotions and feeling to me...."
i think ad agencies have done a pretty good job at cheapening stuff for a while now.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
you know, the arrangement on that pimplemoose beat it cover isn't horrible. the tinkertoy shit and her voice are bad, but it does show some level of, um, craft or whatever.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
who was that indie band from the 80's that played all toy instruments? from boston?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Pianosaurus.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn4UmJgp24I&feature=related
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Bands that enrage you
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
there's a similar dude (I don't think it's a band) called Self — I'll post his "What a Fool Believes" cover if I can find it
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
('similar' in the sense of 'all toy instruments')
this thread needs more rita pavone singing and dancing with a hammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGIXrziSLCQ
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUjg8Nb2Qc
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV64MTaw7aE
honestly I don't hate this — dude sounds breathy but I think that's just because his voice isn't that strong and it's a really fuckin' hard song to sing!
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
that Self cover is kind of great, actually
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
love her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4voeDBx96c
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
sorta like this, might have to start using it:
Did Michael McDonald invent the word "nostalgite" (combination of naivete and nostalgia) in this song?I like it but I think it's a bit too close the original especially in the vocals.roesmoker 2 months ago@roesmoker ha ha, I am an idiot, according to random lyrics on the internet that is actually "nostalgic tale" - I always thought it was nostalgite. A Kiss That Guy moment for me!roesmoker 2 months ago
@roesmoker ha ha, I am an idiot, according to random lyrics on the internet that is actually "nostalgic tale" - I always thought it was nostalgite. A Kiss That Guy moment for me!roesmoker 2 months ago
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
they just don't make pixie spark plugs like they used to
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bravo/388-1.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
beat this outfit you twee fuckers!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZpzCC9EQGvI/SZB1RxAAJhI/AAAAAAAAARo/P0a287Qnks4/s400/portada_redimensionar.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
As an advertising professional, I ask you...do hipsters care about deck protection? Do Pamplamoose fans understand the damage water can do to an unprotected deck?
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
only like a 1/5 of the way through the thread but i have to giggle at
i think the ads are totally stupid btw, mostly because as mentioned they were airing this shit during the height of football season when normally the ads are all about how you're a homosexual with euro tendencies and mommy issues if you don't drink bud lite, or howie long calling you a pussy for not having the right kind of truck./― omar little, Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― omar little, Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
real men drink 'lite' beer.
― "jobs" (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post to bernard - yeah, self was a single dude in the studio, but I knew a bunch of the guys that toured with him as his back up band
― Darin, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHt2CveSXqE
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i bet Pamplamoose own a deck
― gr8080, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Is it wrong that I am basically like "oh, an Italian Shirley Bassey" with Rita Pavone?
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes imo
― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link