infantilism appeals to all sorts: black & white, rich & poor, attractive & not so much so. nataly dawn may have seen some shit for all i know. the intense hatred of comfortable twee seems predicated as much on contempt of the comfortable as distaste for their cutie-pie boo-boo noises. me, i don't hate the comfortable even when they're white christians with nordic surnames and straight hair. i hate sappy, smarmy tweedle-tweedle nothing music no matter who's making it. (this is not "taste," mind you. it's merely an expression of my cynicism and perverse pride in social maladapation.)though her kooky askance-looking grates, she's a million times less annoying than prancing dude.― carles marx (contenderizer), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 1:21 AM (10 hours ago)
though her kooky askance-looking grates, she's a million times less annoying than prancing dude.
― carles marx (contenderizer), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 1:21 AM (10 hours ago)
see, i kinda give kimya a pass (and i don't like her music) for being an actual outsider. hyundai would not make a cheerful christmas commercial starring this person:
http://www.losanjealous.com/img/sxsw08/Kimya_Dawson_05.jpg
― PWN: The Paul Winfield Network (get bent), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
(I suppose my reaction to this particular branch of the hipster conversation is being colored by living with an Irish fiddler for 2 years and almost living with an old-timey musician who wanted to have jam sessions in our apartment in the late 90s)
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
right, she only got her music into an incredibly popular movie that was nominated for a ton of awardsxpost
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
it wasn't incredibly popular when she got her music into it!
― PWN: The Paul Winfield Network (get bent), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
but it was in 2010 when hyundai was making this fucking commercial!
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
jbryanhopkins John B Hopkinsso pomplamoose is the name of that insufferable hipster duo on those nauseating hyundai commercials...more like pomplaDOUCHE. BOOM, roasted!7 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
― buzza, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
(xpost) Matt, yeah, Trampled By Turtles too. Are they known nationally? Sorta? I think so, I have no idea. Yonder Mountain has/had some association with Phish (sorry to be cluttering up this Pomplamoose thread with my very limited jamband knowledge!) But it is interesting to me how that roots music went from being the provenance of old hippies, to young hippies, to more urban scene kids.
― Glorified Lolcat (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 2:07 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think they are pretty popular, like in that way that jam bands are like 10X more popular than local indie bands that get 10X the press...i think they might have a bit of that st. thomas/st.john's college dude "gear daddies" type crowd as well crossover (or dave matthews type crowd)
however, they are down with Low and Sparhawk but I think that's more a Duluth pride type thing
― the medina green preservation society (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
...with adorable white people with clear skin and no tattoos or piercings or 'fros!
― PWN: The Paul Winfield Network (get bent), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like people have forgotten jamiroquoi as a reference for insufferability.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
there is definite mix here of hill town dudes who grew up on farms and had hippie farmer parents and western mass noise/psych people who came from elsewhere to go to school here or just live here. everyone hangs with everyone. they can be hard to tell apart.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
that was in response to something way up there. i don't even remember what it was.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
that was so long ago now! i dunno, it's been a very strange decade.
― PWN: The Paul Winfield Network (get bent), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
get bent otm, do you think those songs from Juno would have been so lauded if people thought it was kimya singing them instead of cute lil ellen page?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
"But it is interesting to me how that roots music went from being the provenance of old hippies, to young hippies, to more urban scene kids."
there are still tons of young non-ironic or whatever non-hipster rootsy people though. they just don't get the press, i guess. a gazillion dudes who want to be the old crow medicine show.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but... most of those dudes are urban scene kids!
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
like it's not about whether it's "ironic" or not, it's about them playing the same shows as a somebody's 8-piece indie band that kinda sounds like a bad arcade fire
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm beginning to think the only people who aren't hipsters are super-rabid sports fan d-bags, unless they root for an indie hipster team like the l.a. clippers or something.
― omar little, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
xp i.e. being part of the same 'scene'
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
just read this thread and the fact that anyone in the world sees their harmonies as "elaborate" makes me want to commit suicide
― nakh get on my lvl (roxymuzak), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 7:08 PM (28 minutes ago)
http://i51.tinypic.com/2q0j85z.jpg
fwiw I meant "elaborate" in the sense that her vocals are overdubbed like 8 times, not in the sense that there's anything weighty going on there musically. my point was that the technique is a little unusual for the type of DIY indie pop where a live-in-the-studio sound is such a key part of the aesthetic.
but thinking about it more, it's not really accurate to include Pomplamoose in the twee/indiepop/C86 lineage just because they're ramshackle and exaggeratedly peppy. if anything, their gimmick comes right from hordes of solitary youtubers who post split-screen videos of their one-man-band covers of pop songs. and if the songs they cover are any measure of their taste in music, then I doubt they've ever heard the Beat Happening, and the resemblance is most likely accidental.
― i probably busted a nut when i was tossing her cookie salad (unregistered), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
omar — it's more like a continuum; there is no pure 'bro' or 'hipster', only various intermediate positions
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd believe that they picked it up from feist, she's pretty popular + has highly bloggable video memes
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
(i mean the particular breathy affected vocal style here)
my posts look like the rantings of a madman
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i think being poor completely absolves you of hipsterdom. i don't think it's a good tradeoff. just suck it up and enjoy your money.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
hipsters aren't the real class enemy tho
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
burn down a hyundai dealership or something, idk
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
im fbook friends w/ this tanning bed iowa state grad blonde event planner who loves hanging out in wrigleyville but has photos on her fbook that say things like 'look at this fucking hipster!!' underneath it lol
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think she even knows how to stare dead-eyed
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
tanning bed iowa state grad blonde event planner
because, really, who are we to judge?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i wish i was an event planner. baller dough
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm sure the "tanning bed" descriptor is far more important in her life than "event planner"
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I missed the Iowa State part and was trying to figure out which Jerseylicious cast member deej was friends with
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
iowa state lol
― goole, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 2:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
snooki obv
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
ws of ... shame?
I wish I was little bit tanner,I wish I was a planner
― old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
should i have whiney send her an autographed copy of *the book* y/n
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
"yeah but... most of those dudes are urban scene kids!"
nah, not really. not everyone lives in a city. there are still actual, like, young people out there who don't listen to indie rock at all and who play olde-tyme stuff. you might be surprised. third generation hippie family kids. ex-jam band kids. and lots of kids who just grew up on bluegrass/southern/country stuff. kids who grew up in the woods.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i wish yall could have seen the ppl who came to the north coast fest in chicago. everybody really isnt a hipster. unless hemp necklaces & affliction (different people) are trending
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
your world of young ppl eh?
― old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
deejspatchs from the coast
― they fund ph.d studies, don't they? (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN2n67xUMj8
― omar little, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
as a kid who grew up in the woods, can I just say that the location of said woods is likely super critical to the likelihood of you being a bluegrass head or not
Like, I have 0 problems believing that MA woods is a breeding ground for this type of young pesron (particularly in central MA around Northampton) but it seems practically inconceivable to find a lot of these kids in the woods around where I grew up, where if you weren't a top-40 type you were likely either into metal or Christian contemporary (and gbx and I are from the same area so there might be a slight generation gap thing going on there although we aren't THAT far apart in age, or maybe I just wasn't talking to the right kids).
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
― old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 2:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
basically otm
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
kids still love their ~electronica~ jam bands & nas/damien marley albums
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't seen the Hyundai ad (guess I haven't watched much TV lately) and wasn't aware of it until I started hearing about the backlash, but I'm glad to hear about it because now hopefully a couple of my friends who have been posting Pomplamoose videos for months on their Facebook pages will be embarrassed and stop.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like this thread has gotten away from its core of needless ranting
/alienated
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe they actually hate hipsters, like maybe they actually hate hipsters, like i've heard that people who dress like intolerable obnoxious hipsters and have hipster affectations are often the sorts who spend 24/7 railing against hipsters.
― omar little, Monday, 3 January 2011 03:00 (Yesterday)
I've heard that people who deny the existence of hipsters (v.2011) are the ones dress like intolerable obnoxious hipsters and have hipster affectations.
― thirdalternative, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
(and gbx and I are from the same area so there might be a slight generation gap thing going on there although we aren't THAT far apart in age, or maybe I just wasn't talking to the right kids).― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 3:01 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 3:01 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark
nah dan it was the same when i was there, too. i mostly thinking of these ppl in college in New England, where we had entire off campus houses of ppl that were the outdoorsy version of LARPers, all decked out in wool knickers and flannel shirts and, for real, quoting this one "how to talk like you're from new hampshire" cassette tape the way that other nerds memorized monty python and w/e. my buddy morgan had this v earnest whole mountain man thing going on, huge beard, woolen pants, flannel shirts, etc., that was not at all hipster at the time, but that would now be bloggable to some ppl.
also fwiw m@tt otm re: trampled by turtles. i'd never heard of them but went with a friend to a show at the cabooze and it was packed to the fucking gills. i'm guessing they do just fine on the crunchy college circuit, and that more ppl have their mp3s and jam them w/bros than, like, dark dark dark or tapes n tapes or w/e
― ullr saves (gbx), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 3:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
i thought it said "i wish i were an event planner, balling dough" as if he was confused and thought event planners baked cookies for events
― nakh get on my lvl (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link