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Oh, and that review of the new biography on Sergei Diaghilev was A+++++++ and really wish it was available to all humans: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2010/09/20/100920crbo_books_acocella

nomar little (Leee), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

you can c+p articles from an library institutional subscription, but the evan osnos china thing is from the jan 10 issue which is not on the library wires yet. if you can't get it nakh, bump this thread in a week or two and i'm sure someone from what the fuck am i getting myself into with this grad school stuff will help you out.

caek, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Lamp, thanks for the Gawande link.

Kip Squashbeef (pixel farmer), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

ive been using a friends login for the subscriber stuff for a while and the interface is just so poor i dont usually bother to fuck w/it - seems theyd much rather you read the actual magazine - lol

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

^agreed. kind of why i started this thread so i knew which actual magazine to pick up and start reading.

gr8080, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

p interesting follow-up of sorts on the recent duchenne muscular dystrophy activism article -- they just had a spot f/ clay matthews sponsored by cadillac during the orange bowl

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

OK a TA I had in college had a poem published a few issues ago, woah.

nomar little (Leee), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link

the whole Jan. 11 issue is worth picking up, the aforementioned freud in china article is amazing and hilarious, and it also has decent articles about belgium and why stieg larsson is so fucking popular

symsymsym, Monday, 10 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i know the concept of 'worth picking up' is still valid, even for subscribers, in translating to 'worth retrieving from the well-intentioned pile of unread NYers', BUT in general it's still worth remembering how insanely valuable subscribing to the magazine is when compared to buying a newsstand copy. like forty bucks, for a year, for it to be mailed to your house, which is the cost of like seven newsstand issues.

schlump, Monday, 10 January 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link

what is the point of an article like this? - http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/01/17/110117ta_talk_surowiecki

surowiecki doesn't have a single interesting thing to say here

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

He's just summarizing the various memes on this now that are being mentioned in newspapers and blogs without asking anyone where things could go from here--what is the future for unionized government employees, will there ever be more unionized private sector employees, how would this help in regards to the inequality differences that have grown since union membership has declined...)

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 January 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

His column is like a monthly crib-sheet of conventional wisdom so you can sound like you know what you're talking about when you get invited to a garden party in Stonington

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

what is the point of an article like this?

to summarize and provide some context to a current event or idea its not really about 'saying interesting things' its just a primer? like i know being 1000x smarter than anyone else ever is your thing but i mean the section is called 'talk of the town' so yeah, it exists so the mag's readers can get a vague grip on an issue - the column (which john cassidy also writes some weeks) is supposed to be a gloss? & thats not really all that terrible???

⊚ ⓪ ㉧ ☉ ๏ ʘ ◉ ◎ ⓞ Ⓞ (Lamp), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

honestly tracer maybe u wld get more out of the articles u read if u didnt spend all ur energy snarkily coming up w/ reasons why u wld have done it better

⊚ ⓪ ㉧ ☉ ๏ ʘ ◉ ◎ ⓞ Ⓞ (Lamp), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

dude there are a zillion interesting things happening with unions at the moment (the biggest of which imo is the belated but hugely important efforts to hook up with undocumented immigrants). i'm not sorry for wanting more out of a column called "the financial page"! this article could have been written at any time in the last 15 years - there is zero content to it!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll also admit that i am rankled by his terminology - "cadillac health plans" etc - and his conclusion that ultimately the reason that lots of people "resent" unions now is because unions have been successful at negotiating good contracts

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

like, if i want economist-lite i'll read newsweek

snark on that one for size

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

there is a cover story public sector unions in the economist this week. dunno why i'm bringing it up though because i haven't read it.

caek, Monday, 10 January 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll be interested in reading that, in an "oppo research" kind of way.

i should probably just recuse myself from talking about surowiecki - everything about his steez rankles me and i'm finding it hard to put into words - the "primer" aspect is part of it, but there are people who write primer-type stuff who i love. i dunno!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

yah i can see finding the article glib and too-neat "The Great Depression invigorated the modern American labor movement. The Great Recession has crippled it" both oversimplifies and maybe misses the point - i was just sort of baffled that you didnt seem to understand why an article like this gets written

⊚ ⓪ ㉧ ☉ ๏ ʘ ◉ ◎ ⓞ Ⓞ (Lamp), Monday, 10 January 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess i still don't! the avg new yorker reader could have dictated this article in their sleep 15 years ago

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 January 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

so did anyone else read the all of the "20 under 40" pieces? thought it was pretty disappointing. vaguely remember liking one about a guy working on a boat in florida that catches on fire, but not much else.

Moreno, Monday, 10 January 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

t-pain?

gr8080, Monday, 10 January 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The psychoanalysis in China article is kind of disappointing imo, mostly because it seems to say that it'll explain why a) psychoanalysis fell out of a favor in the US and most other Western nations, and b) why China then picked it up. The article gets at b) at a certain superficial level, but really doesn't go into a) (which I'm sure has been the subject of a lot of other articles, just would've liked discussion here). Anyway, one of my prof is mentioned in the article, easily the best part of it.

nomar little (Leee), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

really tapping into the slang here

The teens were from a variety of backgrounds—public and private schools, Manhattan and the outer boroughs—and they wore jeans, collared shirts, and leather jackets. They seemed like normal teen-agers, although they all had the faintly glamorous, knowing aura of city kids. They were discussing slang expressions. “ ‘Calm your tits,’ ” Yasha, an eighteen-year-old from Crown Heights, said, citing an expression that means “Calm down.”

“ ‘Good looks,’ ” said Kyjah, a sixteen-year-old fencer from the Upper West Side, who was wearing lime-green nail polish.

“It means ‘Thanks for looking out,’ ” Alexandria, from Yonkers, said. “Somebody’s like, ‘Oh, you dropped money.’ ‘Oh, good looks.’ ”

“ ‘Gucci’ is the same as ‘Good money,’ ” Yasha said.

“You can say, ‘What’s Gucci?’ ” Kyjah said. “ ‘What’s up?’ ”

Matteo, a sixteen-year-old from Park Slope, said, “ ‘What’s poppin’?’ ”

The teens hesitated. “That’s, like, a retro saying.”

Yasha added, “It’s gang-related.”

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2011/01/10/110110ta_talk_widdicombe#ixzz1AgfxnnHS

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 01:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Does a print subscription also give access to the full digital edition + archives? Their website is suspiciously vague about that.

earnest goes to camp, ironic goes to ilm (pixel farmer), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes it does - my international one does anyway.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, you can look at literally every single page of every single issue going back to 1921 or something.

the applet viewer thing is kinda stupid, but functional

gr8080, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the david brooks article is so terrible i cant remember the last time i read something that managed to be so offensive w/o actually saying or meaning anything

Lamp, Friday, 14 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, that was ugh.

Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Friday, 14 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i am considering writing a disappointed email, is how disappointed i am, right now

Lamp, Friday, 14 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I know right! I couldn't even get through it.

I did enjoy the unintentional irony of describing what would commonly be thought of as "people skills" or "intuition" or "emotional intelligence" in ridiculously labored and aspergerian terms.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The psychoanalysis in China article is kind of disappointing imo, mostly because it seems to say that it'll explain why a) psychoanalysis fell out of a favor in the US and most other Western nations, and b) why China then picked it up. The article gets at b) at a certain superficial level, but really doesn't go into a) (which I'm sure has been the subject of a lot of other articles, just would've liked discussion here). Anyway, one of my prof is mentioned in the article, easily the best part of it.

― nomar little (Leee), Monday, January 10, 2011 7:21 PM Bookmark

Agree with this. Started to raise some interesting implications about what psychoanalysis could mean for China as well, but then wastes way too much ink on here-and-now descriptions of various conferences and meetings, which new yorker writers love to bore us with.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 January 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

freud/china piece nakh http://pastie.org/1460821

caek, Friday, 14 January 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

The David Brooks article was so poor that I kept double checking to see if it was in fact fiction and supposed to be ironic. Or, failing that, if it was nonfiction and supposed to be a parody.

Virginia Plain, Friday, 14 January 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I knew the Brooks article would settle the argument.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 January 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I had trouble just imagining people named Harold and Erica being the same age.

Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Friday, 14 January 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

that article was not about people it was abt the Composure Class (or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Empty Factoids)

Lamp, Friday, 14 January 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

omg that brooks article guys

horseshoe, Friday, 14 January 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

unacceptable

horseshoe, Friday, 14 January 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i saw the name and sort of hoped it was a different david brooks and after about two sentences i was like DX

max, Friday, 14 January 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Page 1 of 6?

forget it

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 January 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Reading Jon Lee Anderson's recent article about Sri Lanka. I'm so curious what his personality is like, as far as how he behaves in a room with dictators and drug lords and everyone else he commiserates with as a reporter. (His article on Rio gangs from last year is terrific, too.)

like launch the globs and strands (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure he tries really hard not to say anything offensive.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

JL Anderson is great.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

That's the thing -- I'm just really curious about what his manners and body language are like when he's sitting with legitimately paranoid, genuine killers.

like launch the globs and strands (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

(His article on Rio gangs from last year is terrific, too.)

loved this^^. favorite thing I read last year aside from maybe the Sibera travelogue (or was that 09?)

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

International subscriber so always about a week behind. That Brooks piece was such a bore, and added up to nothing as far as I could tell. Seemed like the editors took the day off when that made it onto the page.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I would like to add my ire about the piece of shit that was that Brooks thing.

quincie, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

All the action's over on the Brooks thread, it seems. Cloudberry!

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I've always thought Brody's reviews were maybe interesting but kind of beside the point

But his repeated insistence that Barbie was a masterpiece put me off him completely and forever

I love Justin Chang, maybe there are some cliches in his writing, but he has great taste and is a good voice. It is a shame that the LA Times lost him to the New Yorker

Dan S, Thursday, 11 April 2024 23:58 (five days ago) link

honestly as a subscriber of 15+ years I’m still unclear on who the median subscriber to the magazine really is. if it’s roughly the ilx demographic then I don’t really see the issue with brody being the face of film criticism is. if they’re really so concerned about selling issues at newsstands then I suppose he’s not the most accessible choice

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 12 April 2024 00:05 (four days ago) link

Next thing we'll do is miss Denby.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 April 2024 00:51 (four days ago) link

I assume their demo is pretty MOR, all said and done, with subjects sometimes falling in either margin (I'd say ILX typically feels more like the inverse; we're the margins looking in). Though when they're writing about "the arts" they can kind of go all over the place, because there is no specific beat, as such - that is, I doubt anyone reads the NYorker specifically for its arts coverage. I could equally imagine pieces on, say, either Taylor Swift or Merzbow, and there probably have been. But if someone brought up Merzbow in a piece on Taylor Swift, I'd also call bullshit. Stuff like that, just like name-checking "Barbie" and Bruno Dumont in the same graf, feels performative to me, stunty, even if I believe a weirdo like Brody isn't necessarily doing it on purpose. It's not that his tastes are or are not mainstream, it's that I get the sense he is so willfully blind to the very notion of the mainstream that he tends to get lost in the weeds when writing for a general audience. He sometimes comes off contrarian, but I suppose from my vantage it more often just ends up seeming confused: it's hard for me to parse his pans and praise because his baseline of what is good or not is pretty blurry to me.

Honestly, I was harsh, because I don't dislike him as a writer, I just don't think he's a good fit for the pole position.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2024 01:04 (four days ago) link

Now Denby, that guy was a dork. Wasn't he brought down by ... porn addiction?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2024 01:05 (four days ago) link

I often read Brody because his POV and mine rarely intersect but he's good at articulating that POV.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 April 2024 01:06 (four days ago) link

reviews by known movie critics are one of the things that make basic media literacy an easier concept to explain, imo. you know the source, you get a handle on their biases, and you have your lens to decipher whether something they liked or panned will appeal to you based on your differing stances

I guess some of them are unreadable or corny, though

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 April 2024 12:49 (four days ago) link

I used to read the New Yorker to learn something new which was my main draw to Brody for all the wild references. Now I’m older and need stuff to get to the point quicker so I read the internet. I’m definitely stupider but that’s ok

Heez, Friday, 12 April 2024 13:02 (four days ago) link


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