anticipate TRUE GRIT by the Coen brothers

Yeah I know. Which plays fine, as it stand. I kinda think that outburst seems extreme without the context.

i'm kinda amazed at all the ppl outraged she dissed frank james here - you fuckers all bobby brady or something?

lol

i mean morbs using 'she got a little grouchier when she was older' as some sorta 'gaze into the abyss' parable w/o irony is a bit much imo.

I dunno that I said that. She's seems essentially unchanged at the core, as most of us are after we're five years old.

Can't believe I called this "aggressively OK-ish." it's definitely grown in memory.

i might be conflating yr thoughts w/ some other - my bad morbs! i enjoyed this a great deal, would love more matt damon comedies (i even enjoyed that farrelly bros one enough), the girl was pretty great. wish this was more the baseline intelligence and skill we could expect from a hollywood entertainment than the exception but i'll take what i can get. somewhat suprised the coens didn't go wilder w/ their western pic, somewhat relieved at the same time. would like to see more coen westerns. would like to see a rooster cogburn remake w/ jennifer jason leigh in full hudsucker mode.

Can't believe I called this "aggressively OK-ish."

Especially since they filmed it all in NM and TX!

would like to see a rooster cogburn remake w/ jennifer jason leigh in full hudsucker mode.

this is sort of an amazing idea

Cosign

So this is officially the highest grossing Coen Bros film to date.

Thought that was weird until I checked and saw that the previous title-holder was No Country. Americans love them some Coen westerns.

Ha it's the 6th highest grossing Western of all time, about to pass Back to the Future 3... lol, earthlings, i do not understand you.

and the Coens are closer to becoming household names: True Grit is the only movie non cineastes watched and wanted to talk about over the holiday, I noticed, and every relative/friend I talked to alluded to the Coen filmography.

lol @ WWW @ #2 on that list

Open Range!

Yeah, Coens are definitely approaching Hitchcock/Spielberg territory where people who don't even particularly know what directors do know them/their work.

these are not inflation adjusted grosses so w/e

Totally entertaining movie, which makes it my favorite Coen thing since Lebowski (the last time they were willing to be totally entertaining, or maybe able to). First 5 minutes I thought Mattie was going to annoy me, but then she turned out to be cool. All three leads are really good. I like the classicism, and I think it makes sense for the Coens. They can do a lot worse than punchy genre exercises.

Not that I could even tell it was Barry Pepper when watching the film, but he's kind of like a mini-4th lead in my opinion. Even if Brolin got higher billing.

btw No Country is not a western. Set in West /= western.

(need horses)

I found Intolerable Cruelty totally entertaining, if minor.

Pickup trucks are the horses of our time, especially when driving across cattle lands.

Plus, Tommy Lee Jones borrowed his wife's horse.

plus he used that cattle killing thing to off the cop

bardem^

it's a noir in the desert, mostly

j0e that is an OLD MOVIE term, so get the garlic out

Mexico = Indian Territory, the suitcase = the gold under the grave next to Arch Stanton's, etc. Totally a western.

villain vanishes into ether at the end? not in any western I recall.

j0e that is an OLD MOVIE term, so get the garlic out

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not sure what youre referring to here, but fwiw i do agree that ncfom wasnt a western

noir

I'm glad we agree

oh lol yeah what does than mean even is it like 3D

almost, w/out glasses

ncfom is not a western. it's pretty straight noir w/ a touch of southern gothic (which may just be a subset of noir anyway). though to be fair the villain vanishes into ether at the end of shane.

heh i thought real cineastes hated the term 'noir'

this was tremendous, the sequence of running the horse to dxxth (spoiler) is some of the best stuff they've ever done, put me in mind of both buscemi burying the money in the snow and the dude's hallucinations, but w/o any fucking around, if that makes sense. everybody was great, esp. damon.

ever thtalwart

Lol at 19 movies on that westerns list doing worse than Heavens Gate

villain vanishes into ether at the end? not in any western I recall.

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High Plains Drifter? (agree on ncfom absolutely not being a western)

No really, let's discuss how NCFOM is a western. For starters, it has the words "country" and "old men" in the title.

and "for"

the sequence of running the horse to dxxth (spoiler) is some of the best stuff they've ever done

yeah it was haunting and horrible. and the close-in shots of them riding had this borderline sexual passion to it.. amazing and uncomfortable and sublime all at the same time somehow

thought this was great, if not exactly stunning in any particular way. i went in having read much of this thread, and gotta say that the "disney" thing seems totally otm, but for reasons i can't quite pin down yet. also had no difficulty squaring old mattie with young mattie, and didn't find her to be "unsympathetic" at all, i dunno

not exactly "unsympathetic"; I think it was Glenn Kenny who described the character as "a real pill."

The one thing I'm trying to which I'm trying to reconcile is my forgiveness of some of the deus ex machina (that was in the book, too.)

Like oh no, Mattie is about to be kilt by Tom Chaney and oh look, there's La Bouef from out of nowhere there to save the day. Yay! Why is it that I would rmde any other time this happens, but I let it go with True Grit?

Also, the whole climax between Rooster and Ned's gang. Goes by pretty quick. It works, but the whole thing could've been shaky in the hands of any other actor/director/writer.

heh i thought real cineastes hated the term 'noir'

how'd you get that idea

i think there's a lot of things i'm willing to forgive ~in this film~ just because it's an adaptation (which may not be fair at all). i've never seen the original or read the book, but i'd probably roll my damn eyes a lot harder at a john wayne movie. here i'm like 'well this is what they're working with, and they managed it well.'

also i kinda liked how perfunctory the final showdowns were (both mattie/chaney and rooster/ned). just kinda 'welp.'

Kinda like the spoiler in No Country.