Getting to Know You : A Survey ......... (please contribute if you are as eager to talk about yourselves as I am to know about you all!)

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Yes, indeed.

Alex, you were supposed to be "representing" the ILX-faction of Clint Conley Worshippers at Clint's Solo show at North Six in Brooklyn.

What's wrong with you? Why are you on the computah?

― BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Saturday, 8 March 2003 05:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I work on Friday nights.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 March 2003 06:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm here at the office all night, sister, 8pm to 8am....the newswatch never stops.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 March 2003 06:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh, then we can cry together here in the virtual world...

whaaaaaa!!!!! Clint is playing and I'm not there.

boo hoo

― BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Saturday, 8 March 2003 06:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Nathan Patrin
Age: 25
Height: 5'9"

Fav Band: Beck is not a band, so Clinic.
Fav Movie: Repo Man, probably. Sentimental reasons.
Fav TV Show: MST3K.
Fav Book: Tie: Ben Hamper's Rivethead and the Ego Trip Big Book of Racism.
Fav Actor: Shit, I dunno. David Cross. He acts, right?
Fav Actress: Uma Thurman?
Fav Food: Angel hair pasta with pesto
Fav Sport: Real or fake? If real, basketball. If fake, professional wrestling (especially lucha libre)
Fav Athlete: Kurt Angle.
Drink of Choice: Vanilla Coke. I'm so sXe, dude.
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): My own self-delusion.
Smoker? : Christ, why did I think of Waterworld just now? Argh.
Occupation : Mailroom clerk
Do you work out? : Well, I walk a lot and occasionally lift/lug around heavy stuff (see above)
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 7
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 4

Add anything you want people to know: If this is for a marketing survey I will not be especially pleased.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 8 March 2003 06:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm more upset about missing Liquid Liquid at the Knitting Factory, honestly.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 March 2003 06:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

You are not honouring Mission of Burma's fire.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 March 2003 06:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, it's more likely I'd have the opportunity to see the revived Mission of Burma again than Liquid Liquid again.

Incidentally, there is only *ONE* fire to be honored, and it burns exclusively for the Joke.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 March 2003 07:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Donna, what is a naturopath? Is it like a psychopath, and if so how do you get qualified?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 March 2003 12:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Forget naturopaths. No one explained Yaphet's hair to me.

(I'm still bored. And I need a break from my past lives.)

― ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Saturday, 8 March 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha yes martin you must be pshychotic to even consider becoming a naturopath.
it is the term for someone trained in healing, treating the 'entire person' rather than just the symptoms. we use herbal medicines, bach remedies, nutrition, and iridology ( as a diagnostic tool ).
the idea is quite simple - treat the person, not the disease.
i trained at one of australias many colleges for this but am a little disillusioned with it all now, as i found that even though natural medicines are very effective, most people still want a 'quick fix' and are not prepared to make any effort themselves to feel better.

― donna (donna), Saturday, 8 March 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just realised how horrible that sounded. Sorry. For once, I wasn't being intentionally dismissive.

I am, however, being obsessive about that hair...

It's a rather lonely obsession, it seems. *sigh*

― ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Saturday, 8 March 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Domenico Francesco Passantino

Age: 20

Height: 5'7"

Fav Band: Belle and Sebastian, Eels, Violent Femmes

Fav Movie: The Breakfast Club, 12 Angry Men, Heavenly Creatures

Fav TV Show: The Sopranos, Jackass, The Office

Fav Book: "Jack Frusciante Has Left The Band" Enrico Brizzi, "Microserfs" Douglas Coupland

Fav Actor: Err... Jackie Chan. I dunno.

Fav Actress: Kate Winslet and her breasts.

Fav Food: Blue steak

Fav Sport: Football

Fav Athlete: Hristo Stoichkov

Drink of Choice: Jack Daniels and Coke/Blackthorn's Dry

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Alcohol, the drug of choice for non-twats.

Smoker? : No. No. No. No.

Occupation : Creative writing student/potential future stalker

Do you work out? : No. No. No. No.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 2

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 5

Add anything you want people to know: I'm desperate.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 8 March 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Kirsten
Age: 21
Height: 5'9"

Fav Band: Chopin...? I don't know.

Fav Movie: I Love You, Alice B. Toklas! Songs From the Second Floor. Dirty Dancing.

Fav TV Show: Antiques Roadshow.

Fav Book: The Little Prince. Lolita. Metamorphoses. Birds of America.

Fav Actor: Fred Savage.

Fav Actress: Judith Light.

Fav Food: Olives.

Fav Sport: Water aerobics.

Fav Athlete: Richard John Gillanders.

Drink of Choice: Currently, scotch & soda.

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Not really.

Smoker? : I guess so.

Occupation : Creative writing student. Bakery employee.

Do you work out? : Sometimes I do leg-lifts while I watch Ricki Lake.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : At this moment, I'd say 2.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : At this moment, I'd say 2.

― kirsten (kirsten), Sunday, 9 March 2003 04:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Mark P
Age: 25
Height: 6'0"
Fav Band: Radiohead, Boards Of Canada.
Fav Movie: Rushmore is the only film I know by heart.
Fav TV Show: Old Simpsons.
Fav Book: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.
Fav Actor: Philip Seymour Hoffman? Edward Norton?
Fav Actress: Katherine Keener? Toni Colette?
Fav Food: Angel hair pasta, fresh basil, lemon juice, olive oil + real parmesan cheese.
Fav Sport: I am Canadian, therefore -> baseball.
Fav Athlete: Today, Owen Nolan.
Drink of Choice: Vodka + Coke.
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Sometimes I smoke the odd doot.
Smoker? : When I'm drinking or at a show or bored. So, yeah.
Occupation : Music writer.
Do you work out? : Used to, not anymore.
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 7
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 8

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 9 March 2003 04:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Too bad you didn't make it to the Feb. 16th FAP, Mark.

― Bryan (Bryan), Sunday, 9 March 2003 04:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 9 March 2003 05:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Erik

Age: http://www.vsiserve.org/images/35-yearsCOlor.jpg
Height: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mtt.sport/img01-b.jpg

Fav Band: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~shink/baxendale.jpg

Fav Movie: http://www.xenixfilm.ch/img/aktuell/fils_vs.jpg

Fav TV Show: http://members.aol.com/CDPviola/areyou30.jpg

Fav Book: http://members.rott.chello.nl/e.visser25/Kladder4.jpg

Fav Actor: http://c.golbey.free.fr/CONTES/ct991_5.jpg

Fav Actress: http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/cinedestin/films/l/la/laj/lajeunefilleetlamort2.jpg

Fav Food: http://www.netzwissenschaft.de/gdg/magritte.jpg

Fav Sport: http://uchronia.free.fr/images/Dime%20Penny/Incendie%20watson%20fils.jpg

Fav Athlete: http://medias.lemonde.fr/medias/image_article/chambrefilsbis250.jpg

Drink of Choice: http://www.absinth.com/images/louche_close_150_new.jpg

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): http://notrefamille.tiscali.fr/images/siteressources/210.jpg

Occupation : http://www.toros2000.com/images/Biographie/ROrdonez/bio_ordonez1.jpg

Do you work out? : http://www.imagidanse.com/graphismes/presse/casse_noisette/photo9.jpg

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? :
http://www.etab.ac-caen.fr/lescourtils/images/lat41.jpg

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : http://www.jeannot.org/photos/400x300/DSCF0961.jpg

Add anything you want people to know:

― erik, Sunday, 9 March 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

The title of this thread is so goddam creepy

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 9 March 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Name: The Jews are alright (my name is Hebrew so don't call me an anti-semite!)
Age: yeah
Height: ole

Fav Band: it ain't no fucking bunch of worthless 2 bit hacks

Fav Movie: Skyggen af Emma

Fav TV Show: Wonderama

Fav Book: The Idiot

Fav Actor: O.J. Simpson (he was great in the Naked Gun)

Fav Actress: Christy Canyon

Fav Food: Almonds

Fav Sport: Unprotected Sex

Fav Athlete: Christy Canyon

Drink of Choice: Propel

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Caffeine

Smoker? : No fucking way

Occupation : CA/CLS

Do you work out? : Yes but not much

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : A+

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : B-

Add anything you want people to know: I can't respect a skank.

― The Jews are alright. (The Jews are alright), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 01:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Fred Nerk
Age: 45
Height: 5'9"
Fav Band: Beatles, U2, Elton J, Bob Seger, Who, Redgum, Cold Chisel, also love jazz, classical, folk
Fav Movie: The Ice Storm, Billy Jack, Life of Brian
Fav TV Show: West Wing, The Games
Fav Book: The Things We Did Last Summer (Bob Ellis)
Fav Actor: Chris Heywood, John Clarke, Meryl Streep
Fav Food: Curry, spaghetti bolognese, parmigiana
Fav Sport: AFL Aus Rules (Carlton), cricket, EPL soccer (West Ham), tennis, golf
Fav Athlete: Cathy Freeman, Steve Waugh
Drink of Choice: Bundy & coke or dry gigner, beer, red wine (alc); iced coffee, Schweppes bitter lemon (non-alc)
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): It ain't.
Smoker? : Not for 15 years
Occupation : Market researcher, permanent student, smart-arse, all-purpose waste of time and space
Do you work out? : Will eventually
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 6
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 7

― Fred Nerk, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 01:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hooray for Fred! He's older than me! What is this EPL Soccer thing that West Ham are involved in? I live walking distance from their ground, by the way.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

revised version

Name: Horace Mann
Age: 25
Height: 5'9 1/2"

Fav Band: Today, I'm going to say...Morphine. I get more consistent pleasure out them than anyone else, except maybe the Kinks
Fav Movie: A Day At The Races
Fav TV Show: Homicide: Life On The Streets, then Andy Richter Controls the Universe
Fav Book: The Night (Alone) by Richard Meltzer
Fav Actor: Walter Matthau
Fav Actress: Sophia Loren, yowza

Fav Food: i like a good tortellini
Fav Sport: dog-sledding
Fav Athlete: dogs
Drink of Choice: scotch, bourbon
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): caffeine mostly

Smoker? : y
Occupation : writer
Do you work out? : n

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 9
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 2

Add anything you want people to know: i'm a great dancer

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Karen Elizabeth McDonald
Age: 42
Height: Just above average, about 5-7, don't bother asking about metrics
Fav Band: Grew up with Beatles etc but now Yvonne Kenny, Dame Kiri, Eva Cassidy, Aretha
Fav Movie: When Harry Met Sally
Fav TV Show: At the mo, Grass Roots
Fav Book: Modern Interiors, by local Melbourne writer Andrea Goldsmith
Fav Actor: Tom Hanks
Fav Actress: Helena Bonham Carter
Fav Food: Apricot chicken, mango, CHOCOLATE!
Fav Sport: Casually follow Essendon in local football, play a bit of tennis, pretend to follow basketball to keep kids happy
Fav Athlete: Evonne Cawley, Pat Rafter, Lleyton Hewitt
Drink of Choice: Black Tower, Lemon Ruski, Bacardi and coke, but a hot cup of Milo on a cold night beats the lot.
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Life, my children's energy and enthusiasm
Smoker? : Alas, yes, but will quit soon (Yeah, really, fair dinkum!)
Occupation : Full-time single parent to son 12 & daughter 10, home tutor in VCE (last year secondary school in Aus) art & music, library assistant. That's in order of importance and fulfilment.
Do you work out? : Play bad tennis and worse golf, walk a lot
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 7
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 6 which is a good mark in the circumstances. I regard coming out of my 'marriage' only mildly neurotic (and raising my children, so far, to be the same), instead of raving psychopathic, as my greatest triumph.

Add anything you want people to know: Sorry fellas, I'm off limits.

― Karen, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 04:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

But are you off limits for the ladies as well, Karen? *wink*

Anyway - hello and greetings and all of that, from Florida.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

'I'm sure I haven't the slightest idea what you mean!' (wink)
I suspect I am, Laura (if thats your name). I've had about 28 years to suddenly discover otherwise. (Greetings from Melbourne, Australia anyway!)
I doubt if I'd be any less of a danger to myself when I start fooling about with Relationships whether they're hom or het, if there was a loser to be had I'd find him/her and get tangled. I'm much, much better at ordinary friendships where I don't get any big ideas.

― Karen, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name:Chris V.
Age:28
Height:5'11

Fav Band: Kings of Convenience, Love, Simon and Garfunkel, Beach Boys, Red House Painters, Do Make Say Think, Matt Pond PA, Archer Prewitt, Iron and Wine, Nick Drake, Van Morrison, Pinback, Yume Bitsu...

Fav Movie:Kicking and Screaming, Dirty Dozen....

Fav TV Show:CSI, Seinfeld, Simpsons, Curb Your Enthusiasm

Fav Book: Stay Here With Me - Robert Olmstead

Fav Actor: Tom Hanks, DeNiro, Pacino, Walken
Fav Actress: Kate Hudson, Jennifer Garner

Fav Food: Pizza, Sushi, BBQ

Fav Sport: Baseball, Hockey

Fav Athlete: Cam Neely, Nomar

Drink of Choice: Beer

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Not my bag.

Smoker? : Used to be

Occupation : QA/ Software Testing Manager

Do you work out? : I've been playing hockey again and will start playing baseball soon, so that qualifies.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : oh a 10.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 10

Add anything you want people to know: I'm a sexy bitch with mad dance moves.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes Martin, I follow the (very occasionally) (very slightly) Mighty Hammers from the safe distance of 20 000 km. They seem to have come good (well, improved towards mediocre) over the last month or so, but even if they do stay up it won't do them the blindest bit of good. Roeder couldn't inspire a fish to wet its backside.

― Fred Nerk, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Tuomas Tapani Alho
Age: 23
Height: 180 cm

Fav Band: Don't like bands.

Fav Movie: Dr. Strangelove or Ressources humaines

Fav TV Show: The Maxx

Fav Book: A Story of Blindness

Fav Actor: Katherine Hepburn

Fav Food: Vegan lasagna

Fav Sport: Football

Fav Athlete: None

Drink of Choice: Beer

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Ganja

Smoker?: Occasionally.

Occupation: Student

Do you work out?: No.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks?: 6

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality: 8

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

9, Horace? Let's see some pix!

― Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Doing this thing once simply wasn't enough:

Name: The Nza/El Nenius aka Reverend William Nicholas Coleman

Age: 24 human years

Height: about 6'4" above sea level

Fav Bands/musicians: Fishbone, The Roots, Ween, Buckethead, Talking Heads, Kool Keith, Ani DiFranco, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Beck, They Might Be Giants, System of a Down, Wu Tang, Bjork, Miles Davis, Amon Tobin, Talvin Singh, Dan the Automator, Beastie Boys, Primus, Cornelius, Mike Patton, Skerik, Funkadelic, Medeski Martin and Wood

Fav Movie: anything done by the Coen brothers or Terry Gilliam

Fav TV Show: all-too-predictably, The Simpsons

Fav Book: Hrm. Maybe Bucky Fuller's Critical Path, maybe Tom Robbins' Jitterbug Perfume, possibly Robert Anton Wilson's Shroedinger's Cat, definitely not anything by Robert Jordan (but why oh why can't I stop reading those books!?!)

Fav Actor: Steve Buscemi, John Goodman

Fav Actress: Maggie mufuggin Gyllenhaal

Fav Food: mediterranean

Fav Sport: anything that involves frisbees

Fav Athlete: I like how Kobi's always fuckin' shit up!

Drink of Choice: eightch two oh

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): certain things that grow in nature

Occupation : musician, dad, insurance man, priest, take yr pick!

Do you work out? : Why, yes! Are you looking at my ass?

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : yes

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : definitely

Add anything you want people to know: I'm left-handed.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Not my bag.

Yeah, it's not mine either, officer...I've never seen it before in my life *points surreptitiously to nickalicious*

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sheriff: Book 'im, boys.
Officer1: Hold on chief, it might be medicinal.
Me: Uh, yeah, uh, medicinal. Without it I could go...even...blinder?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Name: Becky
Age: 27
Height: 5'4"
Fav Band: Don't really have a favorite but I'm going to see Black Dice tonight and they make me happy
Fav Movie: Just bought Anne of Green Gables. And so it's my favorite for a while.
Fav TV Show: No TV, except for Buffy.
Favorite authors: David Foster Wallace, Tom Bissell
Fav Actor: Ok, Owen Wilson.
Fav Actress: Frances McDormand, I like Sandra Bullock too, I love fluff
Fav Food: Avocados
Fav Sport: I like to swim
Fav Athlete: None
Drink of Choice: I'm a lightweight, beer, wine
Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): not lately
Smoker? : Screw Bloomberg, I smoke more now 'cause I'm annoyed
Occupation : Paralegal, about to start grad school
Do you work out? : No
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : This varies daily. But my hair was a 10 this morning. Good day.
On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : Also, varies depending on my morning commute, my boss, my shoes, my credit limit, the evening before etc.

Add anything you want people to know: Hi.

― Becky (Rebecca), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Name: Jacinta Walker
Age: 13
Height: 160cm

Fav Band: Moving Pictures

Fav Movie: The Fight temptations

Fav TV Show: Rove Live

Fav Book: Anything y matt reilly or dan brown

Fav Actor: johnny depp

Fav Actress: Kiera Knightly

Fav Food: Gelato

Fav Sport: Aths, swimming, dance

Fav Athlete: Cathy Freeman

Drink of Choice: Nudie Crushie

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Adrenalin

Smoker? : Nup NEVER EVER

Occupation : Student - Dream - fashion designer

Do you work out? : yes

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : depends on my mood.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : ohhh a 10 for evilness

― Snannabelle, Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:24 (twenty years ago) link

you're australian annabelle, i can telle

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:42 (twenty years ago) link

Ahhhh, to be 13 again.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

i would rather eat an entire motor vehicle

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

I was at the height of my irish trad. music phase.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link

I was even more of a wanker than I am now.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

me too!

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:50 (twenty years ago) link

i definitely wank far more often these days than i did at 13

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

now that surprises me.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:52 (twenty years ago) link

rarely more than once a day back then. i didn't have the house to myself that often!

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:53 (twenty years ago) link

you still don't.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:53 (twenty years ago) link

more often than then!

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:55 (twenty years ago) link

okay okay, i'll back off.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:56 (twenty years ago) link

HE SAID BACK OFF, SICKOS.

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

wibble

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

Name: Chris

Age: 24

Height: 5'8"

Fav Band: Jazz. Favorite musician changes frequently.

Fav Movie:-

Fav TV Show: I don't even have a TV.

Fav Book: Wealth of Nations

Fav Actor/Fav Actress: Philip Seymour Hoffman is pretty good.

Fav Food: Pizza.

Fav Sport: I used to skateboard.

Fav Athlete: -

Drink of Choice: Never drink.

Drug of Choice (if that's your thing): Not for me.

Smoker? : Never.

Occupation : Economist at the Chicago Board of Trade.

Do you work out? : Never.

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your looks? : 7

On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate your personality? : 3

Add anything you want people to know: I have never posted under the same nic more than once on this board. You will never catch me!

― isee, Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:36 (twenty years ago) link

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