2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

even the youtube comparison is kind of impressive for arcade fire. u wouldn't expect ppl to "consume" arcade fire thru youtube like u wld yo gotti, right?

why not?

uh, all the reasons stated by you and others upthread about how social media and streaming sites represent a bigger piece of the pie for mixtape rappers than for AOR indie bands?

i dont recall saying that about youtube but about illegal downloads / bootlegging & what audiences are likely to pay for CDs. just because someone pays for a CD doesnt mean they dont stream youtube when they're at work / dont feel like getting the cd

like, the question isnt 'who is likely to stream' its 'who is likely to pay money for a musical product'

those are related but not inverted questions

i guess? i mean the much-referenced datpiff streams music too, it's not all downloads.

i think of a lot of modern rap as being more song-oriented where someone might just play the track(s) they like 10 times on youtube or whatever vs. a rock artist where you're only considered a 'fan' of the artist if you have the album and can name every song off it

like it doesn't seem like a fluke that there aren't a lot of "check out this cool song i found on youtube" posts on ilx rock threads like the ones you fill the rap threads with

you guys should check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXHuf5Oo3PY

so amazing.

hahaha well played scott

Arcade Fire's biggest viral video wasn't on YouTube; it had it's own website because it utilised html5 code. Just saying. Also 3million AT ONCE vs 3million over the lifetime of a video on YouTube (ie several months) is a BIG difference.

dont worry, deej is still otm -- he just hasn't figured out his next move yet

http://www.chessguru.net/end_game/two_rooks_checkmate/checkmate.png

this is so dumb

theres also gonna be like 5 times as many yo gotti tracks as arcade fire tracks in a given year. most of which are all competing for views on youtube.

and ilxor should really stop posting until hes doing something other than scorekeeping & otm-ing more times than a 2008 hoos with meth in his dr pepper

Last.fm

Arcade Fire
76,887,119 plays (1,459,726 listeners)

Yo Gotti
1,181,879 plays (262,194 listeners)

^^ not scorekeeping, just another glimpse of reality

i know you dont care

yeah sorry dude i dont consider last.fm anything like a scientific sample, no

'reality'

and i dont even know how to being to process the apples / oranges comparison that is a live streaming show being compared to streaming youtubes of album & mixtape tracks

so basically there is no "accurate" sample that you'll accept, because the available samples all disprove your claims

right

glad that is settled then

wtf why would last.fm ever be an accurate sample

^^

why would any inaccurate internet site be a perfect (i.e. "accurate") sample?? last.fm, youtube, whatever, it's all just snapshots of people listening to stuff. but it's all we have to go by, unless deej is to be believed saying "i got no evidence, perfect or otherwise, but trust me, i am right, k?"

stfu markers ;_;

just b/c you clocked 200k arcade fire plays in 2010 doesnt mean it's not a decent talking point

right--we shouldn't go by terrible statistics just because they're the only ones we have

stfu markers ;_;

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:12 AM

still got <3 4 u dude, but i have to agree w/ what cad said upthread

i'd agree that last.fm isn't perfect (same w/ youtube) but they are by no means "terrible" -- unless you'd like to qualify that for us

last.fm is just a bunch of ppl who like to broadcast their music tastes to other ppl!

using a service that most people aren't on to get a sense of what's popular makes no sense

last.fm is for college student for chrissakes

You cannot accurately judge this in either direction. The winner is Take That because they sold 1.8million albums in 8 weeks or something.

no fucking clue where dude is getting these stats, but

http://perezhilton.com/2010-12-28-top-ten-most-illegally-downloaded-albums-songs-and-music-videos-of-2010

Kylie is gangsta rap, right?

comment #45

whiney that seems to be the stats of a shitty tumblr

who illegally downloads music videos?

uhm i was a member of an invite-only rap vids room on slsk tbh :/ but eh yeah i doubt it's common. in this case they're talking about streams tho and it's just some shitty tumblr, honestly

Terrorizer top 40 - mag is out today I think - p good list imo (NB I voted in it and daresay I moved eg the Christian Mistress record up a few places)

1 TRIPTYKON EPARISTERA DAIMONES CENTURY MEDIA
2 ENSLAVED AXIOMA... INDIE
3 WATAIN LAWLESS DARKNESS SEASON OF MIST
4 GHOST OPUS EPONYMOUS RISE ABOVE
5 ELECTRIC WIZARD BLACK MASSES RISE ABOVE
6 BURZUM BELUS CANDLELIGHT
7 SWANS MY FATHER... YOUNG GODS
8 KVELERTAK KVELERTAK INDIE
9 DARKTHRONE CIRCLE THE WAGON PEACEVILLE
10 KILLING JOKE ABSOLUTE DISSENT SPINEFARM
11 CHRISTIAN MISTRESS AGONY AND OPIUM YOUNG GODS
12 BLACK BREATH HEAVY BREATHING SOUTHERN LORD
13 ANATHEMA WE'RE HERE BECAUSE... KSCOPE
14 IRON MAIDEN THE FINAL FRONTIER EMI
15 IHSAHN AFTER CANDLELIGHT
16 DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN OPTION PARALYSIS SEASON OF MIST
17 NEGURA BUNGET VIRSTELE... CODE 666
18 ALCEST ECAILLES DE LA LUNE PROPHECY
19 GNAW THEIR TONGUES L'ARIVEE... CANDLELIGHT
20 WINTERFYLLETH THE MERCIAN SPHERE CANDLELIGHT
21 TWILIGHT MONUMENT TO TIME PROFOUND LORE
22 CATHEDRAL GUESSING GAME NUCLEAR BLAST
23 NACHTMYSTIUM ADDICTS PART II CANDLELIGHT
24 ROTTING CHRIST AEOLO SEASON OF MIST
25 KYLESA SPIRAL SHADOW SEASON OF MIST
26 ENFORCER DIAMONDS EARACHE
27 BASTARD PRIEST UNDER THE HAMMER PULVERISED
28 HAIL OF BULLETS ON DIVINE WINDS METAL BLADE
29 HIGH ON FIRE SNAKES FOR THE DEVINE E1/CENTURY MEDIA
30 SHINING (NO) BLACK JAZZ INDIE
31 ION DISSONANCE CURSED BASICK
32 VOMITOR DEVILS POISON HELLS HEADBANGERS
33 AGALLOCH MARROWS OF THE SPIRIT VIVA HATE
34 OCEAN HELIOCENTRIC METAL BLADE
35 ATHEIST JUPITER SEASON OF MIST
36 SABBATH ASSEMBLY RESTORED TO ONE AJNA OFFENSIVE
37 ABSCESS DAWN OF INHUMANITY PEACEVILLE
38 INTEGRITY THE BLACKEST CURSE DEATHWISH
39 SLOUGH FEG THE ANIMAL SPIRITS CRUZ DEL SUR
40 LUDICRA THE TENANT PROFOUND LORE

I just got back from the town centre with my copy and saw your email haha. At least it saves me from typing it up lol

Good list but some bands way too low (or high)

Darkthrone will find it difficult to circle that single wagon ;_;

i was disappointed with that sabbath assembly album

I was too, didn't hear what others seemed to be hearing. Agalloch way too fucking low. I realize that album on the verge of being the metal world's 2010 Arcade Fire album (in that it shows up on every damn list), but it really really is that amazing. Had to drive in to work last night for the first time in months, cranked it up really really loud for the commute home, and fell in love with it again.

yeah sorry dude i dont consider last.fm anything like a scientific sample, no

― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:05 (9 hours ago)

yeah but deej you said pretty much the same thing about Youtube views & yet you are still using those stats to declare Gucci victorious over Arcade Fire

I love deej's passion on this, but its pretty much not worth the time to argue with him. He's going to dismiss anything that doesn't back up his assertations that "gangster rap" is some criminally underrepresented genre that billions of teenagers are listening to.

last.fm's user base is a lot more self-selecting than youtube's, which pretty much is composed of everybody with internet access.

fwiw youtube views seem equally unscientific to me

― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Monday, December 27, 2010 4:19 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark