2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

just that you like shitty music

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Ha. Badu and the Fall are on my list too.

The Gorillaz are showing up more on Brit EOY lists, but some elsewhere as well. IMHO the album reads better on paper(special guests Bobby Womack, Mick Jones, Paul Simenon)than it sounds.

yeah plus Lou Reed & MES-->perfect for the rock critic who never listens to the music s/he loves...

I mean, Stylo still sounds good, but there's quite a bit of dead space on that album. A lot of the blurbs I've read tend to fixate on Snoop Dogg who only makes an appearance on the 2nd track; not a good sign.

*a lot = maybe 2...

I do think I should add to what we were discussing above, that I think there's an element of self-fulfilling prophecy to the 'gangster rap is no longer big' thing anyway ... that its sales that drew so much attention to that phenomenon for so long anyway -- like do you think mainstream media would over 50 Cent if he hadnt been breaking sales records? so when media doesnt cover because they dont think there's a story there, as a mainstream phenomenon it ceases to exist anyway

i mean, just as an example, the youtube for yo gotti's biggest single this year has more than 3 million views & the one for the arcade fire from this year has 1.2 million.

(and im not even counting the 5 star bitch rmx cuz im guessing the nicki appearance distorted that but btw it has FIFTEEN MILLION views)

jesus christ can we stop "add[ing] to what we were discussing above" pleaaaaseee for the love of sanity (a foreign concept to deej/whiney i know)

how about you stop contributing bullshit

i'll keep it pertinent to this thread

ilxor lecturing other people on quality control is like rolling stone lecturing other magazines on overrating rock albums made by 50 year olds

take your own advice

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― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

low millions isn't really that big a number for youtube views at this point, tbh. and lol @ "bigger than the arcade fire" once again being the easy hurdle to fly every example over.

do you think mainstream media would *cover* 50 Cent

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low millions isn't really that big a number for youtube views at this point, tbh. and lol @ "bigger than the arcade fire" once again being the easy hurdle to fly every example over.

― hann am0n tana (some dude), Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:55 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well i figured that the 'nabisco otm!' article about indie takeover here was a reasonable thing to be comparing it to.

compare gangster rap youtubes to whatever you want, al

i mean, was there any other reason you can think of that made this stuff a mainstream phenomena other than a bunch of suits in the media realizing that NWA was suddenly outselling tons of legacy artists?

i mean, just as an example, the youtube for yo gotti's biggest single this year has more than 3 million views & the one for the arcade fire from this year has 1.2 million.

okay, contributing to the thread, then... arcade fire live streamed a NY concert from MSG earlier this year, 3.7 M in one night --

"After the album dropped on August 3, the band teamed up with Vevo, YouTube and American Express to put on a live-streamed show at New York City’s Madison Square Garden. The stream attracted 3.7 million viewers, according to Google, and boasted a ton of interactive features [...]"

how can you compare a live concert promoted by credit card companies to youtube searches.

b/c 3.7 mil in one evening for a live stream is a really big number

and both are on youtube

like, how many viewers do you think a yo gotti live concert stream would pull in?

i dont know? i wonder how many the waka live streams have pulled in without credit card promotions

i wonder how many the waka live streams have pulled in without credit card promotions as many fans as arcade fire

credit card companies are the only thing that draw more eyeballs than gangsta rap, everyone knows that

corporate promotions do tend to increase something's visibility yes
but be smarmy for no reason if u want

even the youtube comparison is kind of impressive for arcade fire. u wouldn't expect ppl to "consume" arcade fire thru youtube like u wld yo gotti, right?

why not?

uh, all the reasons stated by you and others upthread about how social media and streaming sites represent a bigger piece of the pie for mixtape rappers than for AOR indie bands?

i dont recall saying that about youtube but about illegal downloads / bootlegging & what audiences are likely to pay for CDs. just because someone pays for a CD doesnt mean they dont stream youtube when they're at work / dont feel like getting the cd

like, the question isnt 'who is likely to stream' its 'who is likely to pay money for a musical product'

those are related but not inverted questions

i guess? i mean the much-referenced datpiff streams music too, it's not all downloads.

i think of a lot of modern rap as being more song-oriented where someone might just play the track(s) they like 10 times on youtube or whatever vs. a rock artist where you're only considered a 'fan' of the artist if you have the album and can name every song off it

like it doesn't seem like a fluke that there aren't a lot of "check out this cool song i found on youtube" posts on ilx rock threads like the ones you fill the rap threads with

you guys should check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXHuf5Oo3PY

so amazing.

hahaha well played scott

Arcade Fire's biggest viral video wasn't on YouTube; it had it's own website because it utilised html5 code. Just saying. Also 3million AT ONCE vs 3million over the lifetime of a video on YouTube (ie several months) is a BIG difference.

dont worry, deej is still otm -- he just hasn't figured out his next move yet

http://www.chessguru.net/end_game/two_rooks_checkmate/checkmate.png

this is so dumb

theres also gonna be like 5 times as many yo gotti tracks as arcade fire tracks in a given year. most of which are all competing for views on youtube.

and ilxor should really stop posting until hes doing something other than scorekeeping & otm-ing more times than a 2008 hoos with meth in his dr pepper

Last.fm

Arcade Fire
76,887,119 plays (1,459,726 listeners)

Yo Gotti
1,181,879 plays (262,194 listeners)

^^ not scorekeeping, just another glimpse of reality

i know you dont care

yeah sorry dude i dont consider last.fm anything like a scientific sample, no

'reality'

and i dont even know how to being to process the apples / oranges comparison that is a live streaming show being compared to streaming youtubes of album & mixtape tracks

so basically there is no "accurate" sample that you'll accept, because the available samples all disprove your claims

right

glad that is settled then

wtf why would last.fm ever be an accurate sample

^^

why would any inaccurate internet site be a perfect (i.e. "accurate") sample?? last.fm, youtube, whatever, it's all just snapshots of people listening to stuff. but it's all we have to go by, unless deej is to be believed saying "i got no evidence, perfect or otherwise, but trust me, i am right, k?"