The producer known as ACTRESS and his r&b concrète

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as is being detroit/chicago nerd, as anyone who witnessed moonship: the early years will certainly attest to

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:09 (eight years ago) link

:)

if i did, i would

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:12 (eight years ago) link

Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.

It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.

is this so? have heard this said of other producers, but not of cunningham. which may be to say, "i haven't done the research," but what's (not) done is done. and yeah, if true, that working process does make sense of the phrase/thread title. plus helps explain the pleasant fuzziness of the sound.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:13 (eight years ago) link

sounds pleasant but it's a little too clever isn't it, calling albums "hazyville" and stuff to bait the hauntology crew?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:17 (eight years ago) link

i just think he's best when he keeps it light, straightforward and beat oriented

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:19 (eight years ago) link

I need to dig the album out again and give it another listen, shifted so much stuff around in my room I've got no idea where it is.

This is one of the few albums this year I felt compelled to own on vinyl.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:30 (eight years ago) link

And yeah, Jamal does have that Sun Ra quality control thing going on. When he's on he's definitely on.

Whereas all the Actress stuff I've heard was at least worth listening to more than once.

Hazyville included, some great shit on there.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:32 (eight years ago) link

i read the Youtube thing as well and it definitely goes to explain the graininess and warmth of the album -- kinda like an extreme update of the vintage sampler aliasing you hear on classic NY boom bap stuff

the Hieroglyphic Being/Muzique comparisons I only make with reference to Splazsh. it's that slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming, wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks, crunchy bass drums and hi hats that sizzle, and insanely unfathomable synth lines. he def has a more refined sense of melody and song structure that is his own, overall the album strikes me as an IDM dude's take on the abstract US house sound that's been popular over the past couple of years or so, that just so happens to fit in with the current chillwave/hypnagogic zeitgeist. despite not being crazy on the album, it's at least an interesting direction

basically though, I wanna hear more things like "Hubble" or "Paint, Straw and Bubbles", and less like "Senorita" or "Purple Splazsh"

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 11:57 (eight years ago) link

his edit of this on Thriller is cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xceQvaDAl08

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 12:01 (eight years ago) link

the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least.

OTM ... if there was $$$ to be made from making techno tributes to Prince then everyone would have been doing it years ago.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 16:08 (eight years ago) link

re: hazyville, i like the hardcore references in "again the addiction"

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:16 (eight years ago) link

and on "crushed", too!

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:17 (eight years ago) link

this album is so good & not really r&b at all and i don't think people who don't really like r&b would ever mistake this with r&b. feel like the sounds on it are very tube-ey, i visualize a lot of the lines as orange neon lights, something really linear (yet obviously very contorted) about it. way better than james blake although i didn't get the bfd w/ that thread but i also don't know anything about dance music. i've listened to this album on drugs a lot

flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:40 (eight years ago) link

moonship what's your top 10

flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:44 (eight years ago) link

my top 10 favorite albums this year

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:53 (eight years ago) link

moonship what are your top 10 favourite albums this year

flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:57 (eight years ago) link

top 10 albums

demdike stare - liberation through hearing
martyn - fabric 50
ben klock - berghain 04
emeralds - does it look like I'm here?
dBridge & instra:mental - fabriclive 50
flying lotus - cosmogramma
shackleton - fabric 55
shed - the traveller
madlib - medicine show volume 3
anthony shakir - frictionalism

top 10 singles

martyn - is this insanity (remixes)
mmm - nous sommes mmm
wax - 30003
eqd - 04
locussolus - gunship

and other than that it was all from 2009: 2562, martyn, peverelist, zomby, the rest of that crew, wax and eqd sides by shed, scion versions, levon vincent, t++, dettmann and klock, function stuff on sandwell, milton bradley, frozen border, etc etc it all sounded as relevant or more this year as it did last year, and generally much more than what i read about in a lot of other dance music year-end lists :-(

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:08 (eight years ago) link

your top 10 is lookin more like a top 5

flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:11 (eight years ago) link

& thanks

flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:11 (eight years ago) link

actually i forgot some off of my top 10 list

2562 - demons
2562 - rear window
rustie - sunburst
joker - tron

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:12 (eight years ago) link

what's your top 10, flopson?

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:26 (eight years ago) link

no dance stuff or anything, and i have difficulty with albums so ten is kind of a stretch but i pretty much love all these

waka flocka flame - flockavelli
e-40 - revenue retrievin
earl sweatshirt - earl
gucci mane - mr zone 6/jewelry selection
nht boyz - power triangle

purling hiss - hissteria
pc worship - s/t lp and 7" on shdwply
pig - magnetic
sex church - 6 songs by sex church
drunkdriver - s/t

flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:48 (eight years ago) link

this demdike stare is awesome

flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:56 (eight years ago) link

this didn't leave any impression on me the first couple of times i listened to it. i've been assured that it's a grower, tho not sure i care enough to find this out for myself. it's assuredly better than james blake tho.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 December 2010 09:00 (eight years ago) link

missingNO: your mentioning of the "slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming [&] wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks" brings to mind how psyched I was to have learned about Terrence Dixon back in late '08 through Cunningham himself referring to him (along w/ a bunch of other better-known Detroiters, whose approaches I don't hear quite as strongly in Actress' work) as an influence on the 1-sheet blurb for "Hazyville".

Most of the T. Dixon/Population One stuff released on Metroplex and elsewhere that I've heard (from the mid-'90s to recent) has rhythmically really reminded me of Actress, in terms of the funky misalignments, etc.

(Anybody here into Downliners Sekt? A similar-enough aesthetic to warrant asking...)
http://boomkat.com/downloads/317164-downliners-sekt-hello-lonely-hold-the-nation
http://boomkat.com/downloads/367254-downliners-sekt-we-make-hits-not-the-public

Don't Make Me A Burrito (Craig D.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:50 (eight years ago) link

Good to see Moonship's list there.

puff pastry hangman (admrl), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:48 (eight years ago) link

what's better

this - FWIW also **BUBBLING** just just outside the top 10, possibly nudging out dbridge or shackleton, FWIW also r&b concréte

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPQqf4O9j8

or this - is this r&b concréte

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fDsDsJsQg

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:40 (eight years ago) link

downliners sekt have the right sound but the beats are chopped up a little OTT for my taste.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:56 (eight years ago) link

actress' 2010 top ten features steve poindexter @ #1
http://www.boomkat.com/charts.cfm?id=576&gID=11

sisilafami, Sunday, 2 January 2011 23:42 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Listening to this now. Not sure I get it - any of it. Tracks have been popping up on random for a while now and they've just sounded like awkward repeating patterns with little structure or development. So I've decided to listen to it as a whole. Don't hear any r'n'b whatsoever. I guess I will have to give it a couple of goes.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:41 (eight years ago) link

what's there to get? it's house music, man. we're hardly talking fucking xenakis here

missingNO, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:59 (eight years ago) link

I would call Actress neither house music nor easy to get to be honest.

EDB, Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:20 (eight years ago) link

yeah i dont really get it either, i thought it would be a grower...

just sayin, Thursday, 17 February 2011 09:52 (eight years ago) link

It doesn't really become house music until at least the fourth track, and even then it's pretty abstract. Some tracks, that Bubble Butts one in particular, is just plain annoying. Again, I'll def give it another shot, because I've a feeling it's the kind of thing that clicks once heard in context and from then on you can't do without.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 10:07 (eight years ago) link

i particularly enjoy the stretch from "maze" through "let's fly," songs that fans of this type of thing never seem to mention.

― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:42 (1 month ago)

THIS, massively. Had forgotten how good 'Maze' is until putting it on again at the weekend.

I see he's on a bill with Demdike Stare and others in Bristol soon, that's hella tempting if I had any money at all.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 17 February 2011 10:47 (eight years ago) link

I've been slowly getting into the Splazsh album. Works well on headphones.

sam500, Thursday, 17 February 2011 11:32 (eight years ago) link

Hazyville is good too, if a lot less evolved.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 11:33 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I heard and liked 'Hazyville' - relatively passively - when it came out, 'Splazsh' was a big evolution though. And it does keep rewarding. Both a grower and with some moments of great immediacy.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 17 February 2011 11:38 (eight years ago) link

I'm gonna go to that Bristol show on Saturday I think

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 12:01 (eight years ago) link

i like that he uses bits of cut up youtube vids or w/e, presumably just the audio but if u play mpeg videos in winamp 2.xx u get some chill ass noise so who knows

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 12:09 (eight years ago) link

this is awful.

gr8080, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:02 (eight years ago) link

people don't know how to troll anymore

☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:08 (eight years ago) link

whither phil paterson

☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:09 (eight years ago) link

this album is kind of infuriating but a few times listening to it it was the best, i don't know if i would recommend repeatedly trying it too many times -- try drugs maybe?

flopson, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:30 (eight years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say, were u hi?

☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:30 (eight years ago) link

i hadn't even heard the album when i made this thread, just the first two or three tracks

i don't like it as much as i did over xmas, but this and his recent singles are p good

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:34 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

I really like this

corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 12:33 (eight years ago) link

New 12" is excellent too

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 21 March 2011 12:35 (eight years ago) link

I dunno if the musique concrète comparisons are apt — it just seems like soulful house-influenced electronic with a fastidious approach to sounds. wonder what kind of soft/hardware he used

corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 12:35 (eight years ago) link

also thankful this doesn't have that annoying cod 90s R&B filtered-synth squiggle that you hear on like everything that gets called dubstep or post-ds

corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 12:56 (eight years ago) link

also he is an amazing DJ

the late great, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:22 (seven months ago) link

This could either be something special or a complete mess:

https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/131511-actress-x-stockhausen-sin-x-ii-2019

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Saturday, 13 April 2019 08:39 (seven months ago) link

ghettoville is my favorite, absolutely scraped out

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:54 (seven months ago) link

feel like i could put any track from it on a mix with early godflesh and no one would blink

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:56 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo0BniC5oco

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 April 2019 15:04 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

New LP, Karma and Desire, coming out in October.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:31 (five months ago) link

... combining titles of two of my favorite records by artists named "Pharoah(e)"!

The depressed somebody from the popular David Bowie song, (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:49 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

His new album was supposed to come out last month. I wonder what happened.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 November 2019 13:51 (two hours ago) link


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