― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't think this is true at all. There are plenty of great music critics writing about what's actually going on now as opposed to obsessively shoring up a tiny little corner of the past. Sasha Frere-Jones. Kelefa Sanneh. Jody Rosen. Frank Kogan. Just to pick really obvious names.
No idea what the schaffel beat vs. the house beat means. (Speaking of obscurantism, who the fuck cares about the schaffel beat?) Also not really sure what Jacob's point is supposed to be (although surely it muse rise above "you're stupid.") Christ there are some lame comebacks in this thread.
― boy child, Friday, 26 May 2006 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― boy child, Friday, 26 May 2006 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link
My point is basically that revivalism or even a hermetic obsession with a certain sound and scene does not reliably preclude an interesting musical development. House was purely the product of a scene which was in many ways "stuck in the past" and trying to revive a semi-mythical disco golden age, but ended up being very different and creative in its own right.
It's one thing to say that the Burial record is musically uninteresting, but it's an entirely different (and incorrect) thing to say that because it is heavily influenced by a particular, and nostalgic, view of dance music it therefore must be uninteresting...
― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 26 May 2006 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link
It's not.
"I don't think this is true at all. There are plenty of great music critics writing about what's actually going on now as opposed to obsessively shoring up a tiny little corner of the past. Sasha Frere-Jones. Kelefa Sanneh. Jody Rosen. Frank Kogan. Just to pick really obvious names."
Since when does Sasha or Frank = "most music crit"?!?! Of course they are great writers. My point is that the wealth of mediocre and derivative writers with their recycled catchphrases ("incendiary live performance" etc.) are much less memorable than "hardcore continuum", and consequently are much easier to ignore.
And yr right, hardly anyone cares about the schaffel beat now - that was precisely my point! if you didn't just assume you needed to contradict and belittle every point made by anyone else in this thread you might understand what people are saying a bit better...
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 May 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Skream: Midnight Request LinePinch: Qawwali (others swear by War Dub but i don't see it...)Kode9: 9 Samurai (video is great, kode9.blogspot.com)Technical Itch: ImplantVex'd: Bombardment Of Saturn (or all of Degenerate)
try garagepressure.com's podcasts.
― koogy wonderland (koogs), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link
Tricky, if you haven't heard the Radio 1 - Breezeblock - Dubstep Warz session listen to that too.
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― boy child, Friday, 26 May 2006 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link
cool, cos that's not what i said! my comments were entirely limited to the particulars of burial, despite the apparently widely-shared desire to make them into a general argument
― boy child, Friday, 26 May 2006 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link
no, never.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Radio Vennhttp://www.vennfestival.com/radio/index.htm
copy / paste this link into your audio software such as winamp
http://live1.radiovague.com:8000/venn.ogg
today:12.10pm Skulldisco SoundsystemFeel it in your bones as Appleblim opens a portal to the world of Dubstep
until 2.pm
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 3 June 2006 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link
to quote Reynolds exactly:"* well Burial i guess is unexpected... but in a way that's kinda context-dependent."
I look forward to a Finney post not mean spiritedly tinted through 2step spectacles.
― Brian Best (ukb), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Have I really upset you so much Brian? I can't seem to please anyone on this thread.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 10 June 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 11 June 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link
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― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link
ironic that people who spent the last several years moaning about techstep (dissensus folks) are now lining up to heap accolades on half-speed techstep.
if dubstep is the most exciting music of the moment (which it's not, it just can't be), does that make "ni ten ichi ryu" the greatest record of the 90s?
in the new issue of wax poetics, four tet says "everyone goes on about autechre and aphex, but i think photek ... [was] more ambitious than anything else going on; they were on a whole other level. [ni ten ichi ryu] is off the scale. what i love about it is not only was it trying to be the most innovative thing ever, it also tried to rock a club at the same time"
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link
it seems to cement reynolds' now 10-year-old prediction that "hardcore continuum" was destined to become a nostalgia industry, like dub reggae and garage psych.
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link
the new Sacred Symbols Of Mu compilation has new(?) tracks by vex'd, pinch, boxcutter and someone new to me but possibly my favourite track, distance. (along with 20 other tracks spanning the planet mu label's output. cheap enough that it doesn't matter that you don't like 50% of it!)
― koogy wonderland (koogs), Friday, 23 June 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
EXCLUSIVE: The Roots of Dubstep tracklist Ammunition + Blackdown present... The Roots of Dubstep [Tempa?@CD]
1. Steve Gurley "Hotboys (dub)" [Allstars]2. El-B "Express" [Ghost]3. El-B ft. Juiceman "Buck + Bury [original mix]" [unreleased]4. Roxy "Breakbeat Science" [Bison]5. Phuturistix "551 Blues" [Locked On]6. Horsepower "Gorgon Sound" [Tempa]7. Horsepower "Classic Deluxe" [Tempa]8. Benny Ill v DJ Hatcha "Highland Spring" [Tempa]9. High Planes Drifter (aka Benny Ill) v Goldspot "Sholay" [Tempa]10. Menta "Snake Charmer" [Road]11. Artwork "Red" [Big Apple]12. Benga v Skream "The Judgement" [Big Apple]13. DJ Abstract "Touch" [Tempa]14. Digital Mystikz "Pathwayz" [Big Apple]
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_blackdownsoundboy_archive.html#115081203524840322
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link
it's the tune that comes in around 23:39, overlaid w/ a female vocal saying "oh, I get a rush..."
sounds a big like benga to me (what do i know), but judging from the setlist published at the link above, it must be geenneus, terror danjah, spyro, imperial, jammer...? no idea.
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 29 June 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link
for release on 17/07/06:dubstep allstars vol 4
― koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 6 July 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 17 July 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm not amazed by the Burial album so far either, though it's o-kaaay, Nothing smacking me in the face with brilliance like Dizzee's singles or "wtf, is this it?"-ed me like M.I.A.
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link
"hauntology" = sounds like ENIGMA
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link
I guess I like Mezzanine though.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link
If you just mean the hype is a ridiculism taken to new levels, then yeah I understand.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link
In truth, both Shadow and Burial are mood muzak, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, and I like the most overblown pop moments of the Burial album for largely the same reasons that I like the most overblown pop moments of The Private Press.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link
the 17th according to amazon, yes. according to boomkat it's out in two days (but that's got to be a mistake, right, nothing's ever released on a thursday). ordered mine yesterday but it says '4 to 6 weeks' for delivery, so maybe not. it's a double cd btw, hatcha and youngsta mix a disk each.
― koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 07:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link
More thoughts to follow.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 August 2006 08:15 (seventeen years ago) link
The Lex's review of same in The Guardian
― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Science Faction: Dubstep
01 - Scuba - Brown02 - Pinch - Qawwali03 - Gravious - Wormsign04 - DJ Distance - Cyclops05 - Hatcha & Benga - Progression06 - Luke Envoy - Gamma07 - Pinch - Punisher08 - Scuba - Twista09 - Vex'd - Killing Floor10 - Scuba - Harpoon11 - Search and Destroy - Candyfloss (Loefah Rmx)12 - DJ Distance - Traffic13 - DJ Distance - Nomad (Scuba Rmx)14 - Mark One - Devil Boy15 - Sileni - Twitchy Droid Leg (Vex'd Rmx)
(haven't heard this yet fwiw)
― eh (fandango), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link