Sex and the City — Classic or Dud

I'm surprised, Robyn -- I remember liking the first season or so when it was on, when it was still trying to be sharp and clever and HBO-y. It was the gradual descent into soap-com ridiculousness after that that made it really laughable.

We should compare this to the Girlfriends thread -- the first bit of that show is so wildly aping Sex+City that it's kind of uncomfortable. You spend the whole time imagining a pitch meeting where people are like "Black Sex and the City!" "Black Sex and the City?" "Sex and the City -- black!" "City black Sex and!"

at certain times i have a soft spot for soap-com ridiculousness, believe it

i liked the sharp & clever of the first couple of seasons but i don't know, maybe it wasn't my kinda sharp & clever, also somewhat alienating to me. or maybe that was b/c it was so very late-90s. i can see why i had no interest in it in the first place but also why it makes sense that i got into it now. anyway, it's all watched now! i can see how regular viewers would get choked up at the finale - i mean, most people watched this over many years; i watched it over a couple of months, and partly as distraction/procrastination. it worked! and now it is over

I like some soap-com ridiculousness, too -- I was gonna say that I prefer it to be more camp or knowing than this show tended to be, but then I realized that (a) this would have really blown if it had ever attempted camp or knowingness, plus (b) Bring It On is still on my favorite-movies list. (I prefer it like that, but I don't know what that is: "seeming like it's going to be knowingly campy but then it's actually scarily earnest and thus unintentionally campy?" Sex+City might actually age into that category, it'll be poignant and hilarious to the teenagers of the 2040s.)

I love Bring It On so much.

whatevs dudes, seasons 1 and 2 are good but seasons 3 and 4 are fucking amazing when it comes to entertainment value (plus carrie's fucking hair). not to mention season 5.

season 6 rocks but baryshnikov's character is a schmuck, charlotte's baby storyline and samantha's cancer storyline are pure schmaltz and the paris episodes are way too fucking cute.

but the thick of the 6th has Harry marrying Charlotte and Berger breaking up with Carrie, which is priceless ("this will no longer be known as the day i got broken up with on a post-it -- it will now be known as the day i got arrested for smokin a doobie!")

fuck

Yeah, except I saw that episode recently and I couldn't help thinking that if my friend kept shiting on about being broken up with on a post-it in that annoying way, I would just go home.

The thing, even though I don't love every tiny thing about it, I still really like the show.

Harry is my favourite, though.

so great

Especially his pride in walking about the apartment naked.

hahaha yes so funny

on that beautiful couch

Just the thought of the way she says "doobie" is grossing me out.

i think season 6 was when miranda finally got a normal, or at least not hideous, hairstyle.

steve seems like a bro

total classic

we really haven't had enough SJP here yet

can you imagine what the opening night of that movie in Chelsea will be like? The Rocky Horror Asshole Show.

i still love this show. carrie is still one of my favorite characters ever. but i really hope she's less whiny/codependent in the movie than she was toward the end of the show.

i know, i love her too. i'm excited! hoping my friend can sneak me into some opening night premiere bla bla bla cuz of her job. but it probs won't happen.

sometimes this show makes me incredibly angry because it is so unrealistic but then there will be little things that happen that are so spot-on re: being single in nyc. blahhh.

As if anyone anywhere has enough money to open a bar in Soho or wherever.

SJP is a horseface.

challops

calstars man you could take this topical humor on the road, maybe talk about how moses' beard is getting a little shaggy

you should take being butthurt on the road

was watching sex and the city the other night

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Emily Nussbaum on the fashionable running-down of the show:

Although the show’s first season is its slightest, it swiftly establishes a bold mixture of moods—fizzy and sour, blunt and arch—and shifts between satirical and sincere modes of storytelling. (It’s not even especially dated: though the show has gained a reputation for over-the-top absurdity, I can tell you that these night clubs and fashion shows do exist—maybe even more so now that Manhattan has become a gated island for the wealthy.)

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/07/29/130729crte_television_nussbaum

speechless

pretty much OTM this piece, i came here to post it! i like this;

The show’s basic value system aligns with Carrie: romantic, second-wave, libertine. But “Sex and the City” ’s real strength was its willingness not to stack the deck: it let every side make a case, so that complexity carried the day. When Carrie and Aidan break up, they are both right. When Miranda and Carrie argue about her move to Paris, they are both right. The show’s style could be brittle, but its substance was flexible, in a way that made the series feel peculiarly broad-ranging, covering so much ground, so fleetly, that it became easy to take it for granted.

surm, what left ya speechless?

Yeah good piece. She has a point about the genuine character growth

What I wouldnt give to hear richard nixon expounding on this show

"And these women... they just fuck like a buncha streetwalkers..."

rewatching this in dribs and drabs as I do every few years and God, season 4 is really the worst as a whole. Though there are some moments I really like (Carrie and Big dancing to Moon River until the record starts skipping, Trey doing the photo shoot with Charlotte, the Lucy Liu cameo!) but Carrie is INSUFFERABLE this season. There’s some great fashion but so, so, so much cringe. What the fuck was Samantha at giving Richard that hideous heart print? Has Carrie ever been more loathsome than when she’s browbeating Charlotte to lend her money for her deposit? Also, am I supposed to believe Carrie would start working at Vogue and not knock a column about accessories out of the park? She spent a deposit’s worth of cash on shoes alone!

oh no

HBO Max has officially revived #SexAndTheCity https://t.co/st3CaB9MQf pic.twitter.com/IfjgbSkRTI

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) January 10, 2021

Fellow original star Kim Cattrall (Samantha) is not involved in the HBO Max incarnation. The actress has openly feuded with Parker and, more in October 2017, was vocal about seeing her part being recast in a bid to improve the original comedy's inclusivity.

For his part, creator Star told The Hollywood Reporter in October that he had no interest in returning to the series today. "I May Destroy You is the Sex and the City for now," he said as part of a Creative Space interview pegged to his Netflix comedy Emily in Paris. "Girls was the Sex and the City for its moment. I wouldn't be doing Sex and the City today. Twenty years ago, I knew those people that I was writing about. I understood the time and I understood the characters and also what needed to be said."

Continuing my commitment to being the only person posting itt,

I find it fascinating that Sex and the City - a show about a bunch of white women making jokes and shagging - is considered embarrassingly retro and borderline offensive, but The Sopranos - a show about a bunch of white men killing each other -is considered an untouchable classic

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 12, 2021

One reason why Sopranos is an untouchable classic compared to SATC us that it's not coming back

there is no take so shitty it cannot be topped by a shittier one

i think my hell would be having to watch people like this discuss art pic.twitter.com/flUwzdyHYK

— Shaun (@shaun_vids) January 12, 2021

which SATC character blacked up ?

One reason why Sopranos is an untouchable classic compared to SATC us that it's not coming back

The Many Saints of Newark is an upcoming American crime drama film directed by Alan Taylor and written by David Chase and Lawrence Konner as a prequel to Chase's HBO crime drama series The Sopranos.

Baddiel's two fave bands is Morrissey and Al Jolson

Oh jfc, every time the series had black characters in it it was so bad

BG - that's not the same as coming back ;-)

New title for memoir: Men Explain Sex and the City to Me

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 12, 2021

Gulag middle-class women already

sexist. why not middle class men as well?

Glad to know only men have reductive takes on the show. Emily Nussbaum actually wrote a good piece about the show’s retrospective standing back in 2013, which answers the question of the inane original tweet and then some.

Nah just the women. Mao Zedong does not give a shit about SATC, it's in the red book xp

The most famous such conversation took place four episodes in, after Charlotte’s boyfriend asked her to have anal sex. The friends pile into a cab for a raucous debate about whether her choice is about power-exchange (Miranda) or about finding a fun new hole (Samantha). “I’m not a hole!” Charlotte protests, and they hit a pothole. “What was that?” Charlotte asks. “A preview,” Miranda and Samantha say in unison, and burst out laughing.

SATC is Entourage for women

Left...otm

I watched the first episode of Sex and the City thinking it would be about sort of erotic psychogeography

— Rob Palk (@robpalkwriter) January 12, 2021