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Yeah the 53 bucks with shipping and handling is fucking killing me already

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

I wanna try this! tom, please keep us appraised!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

I got iLife yesterday, too.

FUCKING IDVD4 PROMPTLY FUCKING CRASHED WHEN ENCODING A DVD.

I had major problems with iDVD3. It took me hours and dozens of restarts in order to be able to burn a DVD and once I burned it I had artifacts all over the place. It was fucking unusable. And I'm on a dual 2hz G5!

Panther has been a horrible upgrade for me, and I tend to blame it on G5 technology being so new. I get kernel panics at least once a week, etc. Very annoying. I never had one kernel panic ever with my old G4 and Panther.

iPhoto is seriously faster though. Final Cut Express 2 is faster as well and is optimized for my dual G5 which is awesome. Garageband is better than Soundtrack, methinks.

― don weiner, Saturday, 17 January 2004 12:03 (twenty years ago) link

ME is not pronounced as the word "Me", it is pronounced as an acronym, M-E

This makes no sense. The definition of an acronym is an abbreviation made from intital letters that is pronounced as a word. So AIDS is an acronym, IRS is not.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

don, there should be a update in a week or so with new bits, possibly even kernel compiled with IBM's new compiler rather than gcc. Things should get better

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 17 January 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

hey don, why do you prefer garageband?

(can you tell I'm trying to convince myself to buy ilife?)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

FUCKING IDVD4 PROMPTLY FUCKING CRASHED WHEN ENCODING A DVD.

DVDSP!!!!!

― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

I just ordered mine today. Oh, sweet sweet liddle baby 12" mactop. What shall I call it? I want to call it Percy because it will fit in my purse, and I will punnish it with my palms. Heh.

Oh, UPS, speed my baby to me!

― the river fleet, Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

I have played with recording vocals through the built-in microphone and with the software instrument editing functions as well as the built-in software effects. Conclusion: This region editor will take a little getting used to but it's not bad at all. Also I need more effects. And it crashed when I tried to edit some dynamics processor settings and play back the audio at the same time but big surprise, I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to be doing those things at the same time anyway.

Recording and chopping up the vocals was frighteningly easy. If I were inclined to make funhater indie artowank shit with crap drumbeats I'd have an album out by midnight. That brings up another point, the drum kits are kind of crap (predictable coming from me) and no fussing with the compression and overdrive settings thus far has resolved the issue.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

My understanding is that you must add effects to entire tracks, not just to parts of tracks. Is this true?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

That's not quite the most comprehensible thing I've ever said I don't think.
Summarized:

1. built-in effects surprisingly good
2. vocals through laptop microphone scarily decent-sounding
3. built-in synth editor also suprisingly effective and rather simple
4. Sequencer needs work and lots of it (WHERE IS MY SHUFFLE KNOB FAGTOGS)
5. Drumkits and included breakbeats all shit
6. Have yet to import any of my own samples but watch this space (see 5 above)

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

Chris: Yes, but you can grab a chunk of audio from a track, chop it in the editor and drag it to another 'real instrument' track and it can be effected separately. It's not difficult at all, the hardest part like with most Apple things lately is that there's no manual and it's so simple that at first it's hard to grasp. See: Ally and I trying to figure out how to turn up the volume on my iPod for like half an hour.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

thanks for the update tom! I am getting closer and closer to buying this thing every day!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

(xpost: I had the exact same ipod problem!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

It sounds like it isn't really what I am looking for. But it might be around 2.0 or 3.0.

I spent the first few days with my iPod hoping that there were all kinda of feautres I couldn't find. I still want some programmable function keys, dammit.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

ive fiddled Gband a little with it and my main problems are the low max limit of FX per track and no VST plugin support. a graphical EQ display would be nice too and a way to create your own sampled instruments/drumkits would be lovely. that's a lot to ask for i guess but really it's not bad at all.

― scissors (Honda), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

I want this too.

― the Eskibox (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

me too. thx fr the update tom.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

Dastoor: I hate you.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

If you want to make super-goofy Harthouse 1996-era trance this thing will get you sorted out in about 10 minutes (just like every other software studio ever written. hooray.)

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

FOOKING IDVD4 WON'T BURN DVDS (at least on my computer, which is the best damn model Apple makes and is loaded to the hilt with toys.) I'm ready to kill Apple over this, BTW.

The rest of iLife 4 is great. GarageBand is very, very serviceable. I mean really, for $49 you can't expect killer drums...is it just me or are drums THE hardest thing to put into a computer application and get a killer result?

― don weiner, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

Do audio units work in Garage Band, Tom?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

Where is my precious? I wants it, I wants it, I wants it! Nasty UPS to keep my precious from me!

― the river fleet, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

Ed: Yes.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

Do you have jack. Plug anything into anything, musician mates are raving about it.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

In the next two weeks I will be buying:

airport extreme base station
airport extreme card
512 megs ram for my ibook
new ibook battery
lacie external hard drive

are there deals/combos/anything like that anywhere???

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link

Why waste money of the airport extreme base station you can get any number much cheaper 802.11g base stations. Less elegant, less easy to configure but still cheaper.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

The Airport still has the built-in modem for dialup connections.

Y4nc3y, my advice to you is to find a job working for the government or educational institution of some sort. Failing that, enroll in a school. Also if you order online have it delivered to an address in a state that has no Apple Store, to save on sales tax.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

i'm going airport cuz my roommates are gonna use it too and they want the whole shebang. also: i need airport for a work trip to miami in a month or so.

tom! u r OTM. my moms works for a college, so maybe i'll see if she can order for me. dunno why i didn't think of that.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

There's a state with no Apple Store?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

how much do those new ibook batteries cost? and are they worth buying (ie why buy one?). plus: how much are those lacie external hard-drives?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

ibook battery = $130 US (i need one cuz mine died in four months)
200 gig lacie hard drive = $250ish US

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

ouch.

if i buy a new battery will it extend my life?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

yes

how long have you had your battery?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

yes, you will live at least until yr aged 128

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

um. well i've had it as long as i've had the comp. which is a reconditioned ibook g3 600mhz, 540mb ram running panther. and i reckon i get abt 1hr 15 out of the battery unplugged. : /

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

i've had the comp since last june but as i say it's reconditioned - so the comp is older obv.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

if only it was that easy yanc3y ('and if i buy a new hard drive i can have more memories!!!' etc)

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

generally yoou should be at 2/3rds charge by end of year two and almost dead by end of year three (since battery manufaacture)

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

200 gig lacie hard drive = $250ish US

I bought this on Amazon for $230 I believe. Works great.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

SJDHFGJI*()#I()I#()RIW#@()EIF(S)JKCV()SJD()SI()I

on the train home from work a few minutes ago, my ipod froze. on restart i got the folder with the exclamation point screen. my computer won't recognize it. i'm on hold with apple now. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuc kfkjdfkdsjgkfsjdpvsdk

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

! :-( Yeesh, horrid. Hm, how long have you had the iPod?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

That happened while you were using it? Eep!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

i've had it since may of 2002. it's gone. all gone. $250 to repair.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

FYI the educational discount on this shit aint that hot these days.

― Allyzay, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

Class action suit, here you come!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

the really bizarre thing? minutes before mine died i had gotten a call from my girlfriend saying that hers had just died. and one of my roommates' ipod died last week! it's like andromeda strain w/ more plastic!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:59 (twenty years ago) link

Y... yes, that's what I meant by "class action suit".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 05:00 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting the cheap-o Lacie drive for ~100. I wanted to buy it today at the Apple store but they only sell the firewire card for Windows. One person at the store told me that it would work on my computer, another told me that it wouldn't.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 22 January 2004 06:52 (twenty years ago) link

if it's cardbus then the Mac will just recognise it and it will work.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 January 2004 07:01 (twenty years ago) link

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