"4th and long, and the viewers have chosen 'Strap the Ball to a Rabid Bear'" — NFL WEEK 16

well two things

one, there was always speculation about carroll bolting to the nfl -- secondly, while i think he anticipated sanctions, and that might've pushed him out, the seahawks job also appeared at the right time for him, i.e. it was a west coast job, they ceded pretty much all power to him etc

secondly, miami ppl were always too hard on saban and are still bizarrely resentful of him. he did what coaches have to do in that situation. there is no other recourse but to deny, deny, deny. also, say he wins a national title in the next year or two. i could see him being enticed by the nfl.

personally i don't think he's gonna leave alabama. not at least w/in the next decade.

there is no other recourse but to deny, deny, deny.

i struggled with this, a little, at the time. because it's true. but on the other hand, there are a lot of coaches who "deny, deny, deny" in ways that seemed far less unsavory than saban, which is what left (and continues to leave) the bad impression with me.

He's worshiped in the state of Alabama. He wields more power than the governor. AND he's compensated very well, has his pick of recruits (even an Auburn championship this year wouldn't dent his prowess very much in that area), and generally seems like a happy guy now.

I wouldn't hate him if he left. I'd just wonder why.

can't see him as "a happy guy," (he doesn't seem the happy type) but i also can't see him leaving alabama. not now, at least.

it might've seemed more unsavory cuz it happened to "you"? i don't really know tho -- it just seemed very jilted lover to me -- like no one in miami would be clutching their pearls in horror if someone pulled a saban to come TO them

no. butch davis did this to "me," too, when he was at miami and considering the cleveland job. and some hurricane fans were upset about the way he handled it. but that feeling dissipated, because despite denying his interest in the browns, davis handled the situation -- in tone and demeanor -- far differently than saban.

i think johnny is right about saban's situation

when you're dealing w/ a coach on saban's level, i think their decisions are just driven by how they want their legacy to play out -- if saban is okay with being maybe one of the 5 or so most successful college coaches ever, he can have that -- if he thinks that the nfl leaves a hole in his legacy, that's a different story

but again, it seemed like saban & the nfl were really not a good mix, so i'd be surprised if he bolted

secondly, miami ppl were always too hard on saban and are still bizarrely resentful of him. he did what coaches have to do in that situation. there is no other recourse but to deny, deny, deny. also, say he wins a national title in the next year or two. i could see him being enticed by the nfl.

my fav sabes @ miami story is the one where he fired a secretary for bringing him the wrong kind of little debbie snack cake

really don't understand why so many people think being a good college coach and being a good nfl coach have anything to do with one another

(not talking about people itt)

neither do i

i've heard tons of stories about how saban treated people w/in the miami organization, and while all of that is supremely shitty, it's sort of immaterial to how butthurt dolphins fans remain to this day

can we just talk about how great this commercial is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdBaLJ-kHuY

the funny thing is that he sucked & the franchise has been better since he left -- it's like being a jilted lover over rosie o donnell

(no sports guyo)

i guess the sports guy version would be "it would be like being a jilted lover over a girl that has mosquito bites for tits"

its like owen wilson merc'ing himself over kate hudson

the funny thing is that he sucked & the franchise has been better since he left

Well, except for the Cam Cameron year.

well yeah but w/e

Some guys just don't need to be head coaches. He seems to be cooking in Baltimore, like Gregg Williams is doing just fine in New Orleans, like Josh McDaniels is likely to do somewhere next season.

haha, ravens fans fucking HATE cameron

Not surprising.

really don't understand why so many people think being a good college coach and being a good nfl coach have anything to do with one another

jimmy johnson/dallas.

every fanbase seems to hate its team's coordinators, but 'our offensive playcalling is incredibly predictable' seems to have been one of the major themes for the ravens this year

haha, ravens fans fucking HATE cameron

everyone does, except maybe ted ginn jr.'s family.

http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/images/6/6f/Ginn.gif

well also the ravens playcalling was kinda outta wack w/ run/pass ratio

Is this primetime preview replacing SNFl.
WTF this thing goes forever

Cancelled? Ugh I'm a dumb ass :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRuwYF2Pc60

oh i guess they actually canned singletary for real -- interim coach and everything

Well deserved.

The monastery will be most displeased

i still don't think the pats are a lock btw -- as good as they've looked, i don't think you can 100% trust an defense that young in the playoffs

― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont think its the youth, its that theyre not that good, the offese is vv good and the pats play v well at home, these things are in their favor

here we go:

Which, sure, except that Favre is already gone, and has been for some time. There's plenty to mourn about his departure, because he used to be fun and because he'll be replaced by narcissists of a crueler and more corporate cast—think of Tom Brady's joyless tuff-model mug, or Tim Tebow's blissful, boring evangelical boilerplate. Favre did indeed hang on too long, but not in the sense of no longer being able to make the throws or take the hits anymore. His mistake was getting high on his own supply, and sticking around long enough to disappear into his own misty mythos. Celebrity hollowed him out, as it does, and what's left of his old roguish joy now feels false and overdetermined; his press conferences may well be honest, but they are also claustrophobic—weird, rambling tours of the ornate, echoing ego-Xanadu in which he lives. He can't go away any more than Lindsay Lohan can, because there is an industry that depends on him, from which he also draws a sizable paycheck. But the better Favre—the one who really was Like A Kid Out There, as opposed to the one who merely regressed to childishness by overindulgence and self-addiction—is a long time and a long way gone.

http://www.theawl.com/2010/12/the-kid-fades-from-the-picture

The Awl is definitely where I go for my sports opinions.

lol

wouldn't do too much bragging about getting sports opinions from deadspin

It's not even a no-spin zone. The spin is fucking DEAD.

i get awl of my sports opinions from deadspin

i get awl of my opinions from deadspin

re: Saban, I was bitter for a year or so, but yea the moment the Sparano era started, it's like why dwell on it?

Fins fans also forget that Saban's first year as a Fins head coach, he churned out a 9-7 season with castoffs (granted with a really really really weak schedule). I used to post on a big Fins message board and the lionizing of Saban was at comical levels -- people did the annoying 'Chuck Norris'-isms stuff with Saban, talked about him as if he were a X-Men-esque superhero, and were talking about how we'd be hoisting the Super Bowl trophy in a few years.

On the evening he announced he was leaving, the message board's tone changed to "he was always an awful coach". Even the sportswriters were guilty of it too though -- Pete Prisco never thought Saban was a God, but was quoted as saying he could "flat out coach" after one of Miami's wins in the 2005 campaign. Then writes an article saying he doesn't know why Miami fans are sad because he was a lousy coach.

In truth, the 9-7 was more an aberration and a lucky circumstance, Saban showed his true tentative colors as an NFL coach in 2006, but some Fins fans have never let go of it, even though we at most have a handful of players even left from that era.

Frustrating as this season's been, 2006 with Culpepper/Harrington was much worse.

well, i still hate him.

I do still love it when he loses due to the dour look on his face when it happens.

me, too

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/files/2009/11/NickSabanWizardofOdds2.jpg

hahaha rofl

harry and the hendersons 2

Rowwwwl Tahhhhde