The more exterior shots they show of Philly, the more I wish the game was being played tonight. SNOW BOWL FOR THE AGES!
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
The last guy I'd want to hire is a guy like Bill Cowher who's been on vacation for the last four years.
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
meh. i mean, there's a low success rate for super-bowl winning coaches with their second team, but cowher is a really good, well-respected coach.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I honestly don't think the Dolphins' problems are (wholly) coaching related, fwiw. Sporano is quality. It's Henne + a few other broken parts.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think cowher is another shanahan
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 December 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i think most rookie qbs show it off in their first year
Most, but not all of them. Give the kid some weapons and some veteran competition.
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
I honestly don't think the Dolphins' problems are (wholly) coaching related, fwiw.
Totally agree. I like Sparano.
i think sparano is a good head coach too, if maybe a tad conservative at times -- they need a new offensive coordinator first and foremost, and need to improve some position groups
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, he needs an upgrade at offensive coordinator.
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
tommy's suit looking choice once again at the post-game presser
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, the dolphins have been disappointing this year yes, but the guy also won the division the year after inheriting a 1-16 team. cycling thru coaches is not a sustainable or desirable model
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link
tru
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Texans are really the best option for a Bill Cowher. They have a good roster, good stadium, good owners...they just need that little extra oomph.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i could see that -- and he could prob just enough out of that defense
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link
GET just enough
nyg just as good, if not better, situation for cowher.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
but texas a good spot, too.
Big difference is who wants him. Texans clearly will. Giants appear to be looking elsewhere.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link
"Quarterback Joe Webb was walking around with Vikings bedroom slippers"
― Maltodextrin, Monday, 27 December 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
cowher's good but i think it has to be said that in tha 'sburgh he really benefited from some of the best football operations in the league - he also phoned in his last year w/the steelers due to not giving a fuck. if you get him you better make sure he wants to be there and isnt just looking for a payday (and i think he understands this too, to be fair, which is why he hasn't been in a hurry to leave broadcasting - an easy check that lets him spend tons of time with his family)
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Uh oh, now that the Saban-to-Cowboys rumors have officially been declared "unfounded," I find myself worrying.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah that definitely needs to be said
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 December 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link
worrying about waht?!? EXCELLENT RUMOR: saban to cowboys!
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
As a lifelong Tide fan, DO NOT WANT
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, listen, saban is a tough disciplinarian, a good coach, a star, someone who will inevitably be the next great nfl coach. take that from a team who knows. dallas cowboys, opportunity is knocking.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Singletary will not return next year as 49ers head coach, according to "sources within the team"interesting. do these super-insider "sources" include the homeless guy that bill parcells used to consult before choosing draft picks for the dolphins?― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, December 26, 2010 4:37 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
interesting. do these super-insider "sources" include the homeless guy that bill parcells used to consult before choosing draft picks for the dolphins?― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, December 26, 2010 4:37 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
the team president/CEO Jed York basically came out and said as much after the game.
― Maltodextrin, Monday, 27 December 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
nick saban's available, for the right price.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, even if Saban leaves, I think Alabama has learned from the post-Stallings era that you can't just make do with some schlub (or some former qb with the last name Shula) and keep winning just because you're Alabama. They'll go after another big fish.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
are there looming sanctions against the tide? that seems like a scenario saban would try to escape. otherwise, he seems like a prototype college -- not pro -- coach.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Nothing that I know of. After the sanctions from the DuBose years that crippled UA for years (and undoubtedly led Dennis Franchione to bolt for Texas A&M after two seasons...sucka!), they're keeping a really short leash on the boosters.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
saban runs a clean program -- he would bolt for one reason & one reason only: his ego. bama will pay him about as much as any college can possibly pay a coach, and he's got a seemingly unstoppable program there. the only thing you can't account for is if it gnaws at him that he was a failure in the nfl or if the competitor in him feels like college isn't satisfying him anymore -- see: pete carroll
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
the timing of carroll's departure was kind of obvious but i think he was going to return to the nfl at some point
yes, it is completely obvious that carroll left to avoid the sting of sanctions. and i have no insider information, obviously, but saban's departure from miami was utterly his own choice, the product of weeks of cynical deception on his part, and left no trace of the notion that it was "gnaw(ing) at him that he was a failure in the nfl."
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe in the ensuing years he began to feel that way, but such a feeling runs directly counter to the impression left in the wake of his departure from the dolphins.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
This all stems from the fact Jerry Jones flew into Tuscaloosa a few weeks ago and had a meeting with Saban. People in the Alabama sports press have indicated that it was more of tactical meeting of the minds related to Dallas football than it was Jones sniffing out Saban for potential. I mean, if I were Jerry Jones and my team had gotten off to the start it had this season, I'd want to go talk to a coach who could win and find out what he was doing right.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link
of the few nfl coaches who are children of former nfl coaches, i much prefer wade phillips to rex ryan
so i feel badly for phillips' failure in dallas. if the cowboys psychosis could engulf nick saban, tho, i'd be happy.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
well two things
one, there was always speculation about carroll bolting to the nfl -- secondly, while i think he anticipated sanctions, and that might've pushed him out, the seahawks job also appeared at the right time for him, i.e. it was a west coast job, they ceded pretty much all power to him etc
secondly, miami ppl were always too hard on saban and are still bizarrely resentful of him. he did what coaches have to do in that situation. there is no other recourse but to deny, deny, deny. also, say he wins a national title in the next year or two. i could see him being enticed by the nfl.
personally i don't think he's gonna leave alabama. not at least w/in the next decade.
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
there is no other recourse but to deny, deny, deny.
i struggled with this, a little, at the time. because it's true. but on the other hand, there are a lot of coaches who "deny, deny, deny" in ways that seemed far less unsavory than saban, which is what left (and continues to leave) the bad impression with me.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link
He's worshiped in the state of Alabama. He wields more power than the governor. AND he's compensated very well, has his pick of recruits (even an Auburn championship this year wouldn't dent his prowess very much in that area), and generally seems like a happy guy now.
I wouldn't hate him if he left. I'd just wonder why.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link
can't see him as "a happy guy," (he doesn't seem the happy type) but i also can't see him leaving alabama. not now, at least.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
it might've seemed more unsavory cuz it happened to "you"? i don't really know tho -- it just seemed very jilted lover to me -- like no one in miami would be clutching their pearls in horror if someone pulled a saban to come TO them
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
no. butch davis did this to "me," too, when he was at miami and considering the cleveland job. and some hurricane fans were upset about the way he handled it. but that feeling dissipated, because despite denying his interest in the browns, davis handled the situation -- in tone and demeanor -- far differently than saban.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 27 December 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i think johnny is right about saban's situation
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
when you're dealing w/ a coach on saban's level, i think their decisions are just driven by how they want their legacy to play out -- if saban is okay with being maybe one of the 5 or so most successful college coaches ever, he can have that -- if he thinks that the nfl leaves a hole in his legacy, that's a different story
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
but again, it seemed like saban & the nfl were really not a good mix, so i'd be surprised if he bolted
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link
my fav sabes @ miami story is the one where he fired a secretary for bringing him the wrong kind of little debbie snack cake
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link
really don't understand why so many people think being a good college coach and being a good nfl coach have anything to do with one another
― iatee, Monday, 27 December 2010 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link
(not talking about people itt)
― iatee, Monday, 27 December 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
neither do i
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i've heard tons of stories about how saban treated people w/in the miami organization, and while all of that is supremely shitty, it's sort of immaterial to how butthurt dolphins fans remain to this day
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link