The ROGUE-LIKE Thread

does anybody have anything cool to say about Eschalon? I know it is not totally a roguelike in the strict sense

I've been playing this over Christmas: http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php?title=Brogue it is well worth a download, and it works/looks great on OSX which is a nice change.
Also the game that dan i. was asking about several years ago was either Super ZZT or The Caverns Of Thor.

Here's the real link, sorry
http://sites.google.com/site/broguegame/

I'm really keen to try Brogue - I've heard good things! Has anyone done a tileset for it?

I can't stand a tileset.
The thing about roguelikes is that you're fighting letters and punctuation, not actual creatures. A little bitmap of a red dragon is missing the point: you are actually fighting a red D.
That said, Brogue really makes the ASCII graphics beautiful, like, gorgeous.

I can't even beat DCSS with severe savescumming, like I cheated my way down to the last level and it was just insane to me how anyone could beat that even while cheating, never mind for real

i haven't played a full game of DCSS in a while so maybe this has been addressed in the newer versions, but overall the game is not as difficult as it seems at first. there's a huge survival hump to get over at the beginning, but if you can stay alive long enough to get down to the Lair of Beasts and clear that out, the difficulty starts to plateau and you can cruise through a lot of the game unchecked.

Brogue looks promising, i'll have to give it a try. i remember playing this Incursion one a while back because of how nice it made the ascii look, but was disappointed that it didn't play well (way too much focus on D&D style character building for a game with permadeath)

My younger brother, home from school, showed me about FTL last night
I showed him about ADOM, which I hadn't played in three years. Instant addiction for him, re-addiction for me. My "quick tour around the facility" blossomed into a L20 wizard and a shameful 4am bedtime

FTL is really good. I hope it gets a lot of DLC.

Oh nooooo we played for ~five hours~ yesterday and we're saving the wizard and going for an ultra
Worst christmas ever

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/11/11/five-reasons-get-new-ftl-expansion/

Another Christmas, another rogue-like k-hole.

After a hugely successful Kickstarter, ADOM is back in development, has been all year, and the current build (1.2.0 p20) is free-to-download, stable and balanced and beautiful. Lots of new artifacts and corruptions, a few new creatures, tilesets and music for those who like that sort of thing. I was sick-in-bed last week and played a Gnomish beast-fighter through to a standard victory, still my favourite game of all time.

i had never heard of this ^ but i played it a lot and now i hate games and myself

i haven't quite had the patience to get into it enough to get hooked, always hate stumbling around learning all the key functions

played a lot of Nethack back in the day tho

I am ashamed/not-ashamed to admit that I've logged more time playing ADOM than I have reading Russians or doing chin-ups or w/e. I've won it three times :( Once with a gnomish monk (a surprisingly easy character, try it), an ultra win with a grey elven wizard (hospital stay), and then once this past Chrimmas with a wee beastfighter.

Brogue is getting a lot of play these days, too, the new version is crueler than ever and I keep dying and dying and dying.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/10/wot-i-think-tales-of-majeyal/

OK, I gave up on Brogue for good. After a month of good gaming I'm replacing play with swimming. I feel, with these games, that sometimes it's just like the sun comes out from behind a cloud, and the pointlessness of the activity becomes visible. Roguelikes are so unforgiving in that there's no reward in investing your time, it's like playing seven hour games of Tetris.

I tried Stone Soup but I can't get into roguelikes where the map is centred on the @ and is larger than the screen, it loses the visual appeal of the play and feels more conspicuously like inventory management

Just started Brogue, looks extremely pretty.

In Brogues

Just got FTL iPad. Addicted. Tips?

I won FTL, twice iirc. I think the first time was with a stealth + precise laser + missile combo. The second time was with a boarding party. I liberally checked FAQs for tips, didn't feel like it spoiled the game at all to do so.

Though I was all "this is not a rogue-like" about it (and stand by it), what a game. A very unproductive week when that game came to my house.

the ipad version is quite different. i haven't played it, but a friend was walking me through all the additions.

ok this game has sucked me in to the point where i'm getting mad at people for attempting to interact with me at all while i'm playing

yeah, totally. for those who haven't played it yet, it is very much worth your time.

thing i like about games like this is that they always feel so fresh. love random worlds.

got so frustrated when I would finally make it to the last boss through what I thought was savvy play only to be hilariously outgunned

i wish they'd release it for iphone :(

everything would be horribly tiny though
this game made me so mad after a while ftr

ya that would be impossible iphone, ipad is almost too msall

*on iphone

reached min maxing point with ftl in a couple too few play cycles mb

did they release the update for the PC version ever?

Aye and it's a free update. You have to make sure and check the 'advanced edition' tickbox when you're starting though, for some reason they assume you want to play the default version.

there's an "advanced content" checkbox on the ipad version i haven't clicked yet. should i? what kind of stuff is there?

got to the last level last night but was WOEFULLY underpowered. how the eff do i get there w/o sacrificing some crucial ship system? its like how can i afford enough weapon slots AND shield slots AND blast doors AND evasive power?!! i guess going for a balanced ship is not a good strategy huh

really the only way to do everything is boarding parties since that accumulates more scrap

nb, i haven't been able to beat the new hard mode so it could be there are more effective strategies now

intriguing

shattered planet is a great little small-doses roguelike for ios.

anyone else playing Card Dungeon (iOS)?

not since they updated. it felt kinda pointless as it was?

i just downloaded it and im not feeling it really

i don't think it's pointless, it's just needlessly difficult. the farthest i can get is the third dungeon (out of like 10 or whatever). although you can unlock different character traits, none of them are really much of an improvement on the default set, so you aren't able to gather experience and gradually progress farther like games like Rogue Legacy. i like my roguelikes to at least 80% skill, but card dungeon feels like 80% luck.

rogue legacy is maybe too easy tho

card dungeon seems to be 'did you randomly find a better attack card in the first two minutes? no? then you're dead', though

i did get slightly better at it once i realized that the red health fountain thing not only fills up your health but also repairs your cards. but still, i think i'm done with it.

recommendations for a fairly light roguelike i can sink some but not too many hours into to occupy my higher brain functions for a little while?

--has to be turn-based, not a procedural platformer or shooter (bleh)
--i unlocked everything in the desktop dungeons alpha and didn't like the released version

Did you play hoplite?

yes. which is a shame, because it would be exactly what i would be looking for.

i am enjoying this:

http://gamejolt.com/games/malleus-goblinficarium/54134

Not familiair with it but perhaps I should get acquainted.

What did you name the wimpy monster?

haha Moggy, after my mates wimpy cat

Anyone played The Swindle (stealthy roguelike-like for all PS platforms)? It's on sale in the PS store this week and I'm considering it but reviews suggest that its difficulty level is brutal.

They had a convention!!! nobody tells me anything

https://roguelike.club/schedule.html

Coverage:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/281688/Rogue_cocreator_permadeath_was_never_supposed_to_be_about_pain.php

http://kotaku.com/rogue-creator-says-we-need-a-better-word-for-permadeath-1786822855

it won't be a conventional roguelike but i am stoked for aria end

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-extremely-strange-world-of-infinite-dungeon-video-games

peter burr rules
porpentine charity heartscape appears to rule too but i'm just learning about her stuff

I enjoyed this article about blind people playing roguelikes via screen readers:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/04/05/playing-roguelikes-when-you-cant-see/

That's p. hardcore.

was reading that this morning, it is a good piece. used to work with a visually impaired guy who was into interactive fiction

that's a great piece, thanks!

we have to comply pretty strictly with WCAG and 508 for all our stuff and in my limited experience it's impressive how much accessibility requirements actually improve the UX for everyone.

good read

for those that love to roguelike and enjoyed rogue legacy 1:

The release of the Drifting Worlds marks our third content release patch, and the halfway point on our road to completing Rogue Legacy 2. It’s hard to believe it has already been 9 months since the game entered Early Access, and we’ve added an immense amount of content and features. Since launching we’ve released 4 new biomes, 7 new classes, numerous major systems, and a consistent stream of new enemies, spells, traits, skills, relics, and runes. RL2 is absolutely brimming with content, and we believe it is time to raise the price from $19.99 USD to $24.99 USD. A price-rise was always on our roadmap, and our development trajectory has not changed since we launched in Early Access.

Before all this though, we want to celebrate the release of the Drifting Worlds and the passing of our halfway-mark milestone, so starting on May 18 at 10 AM PDT and ending on May 24 at 10 AM PDT, RL2 will be discounted at 20% off its current price (not the raised price). The hike in price will only occur after the sale is over, so this gives gamers an opportunity to get Rogue Legacy 2 at its lowest price ever. This is the lowest price it’ll be for quite a while! If you’re on the fence, now is a great time to dive in and check out everything new and exciting in the Rogue Legacy universe.

i am diving in

and i just bought it and realized it's pc only. oh.

welp, nbd and it's easy to get a steam refund, but dang. i was getting excited.

Owen P was right in 2011; the game that I couldn't remember the name of in 2005 was Super ZZT, specifically Monster Zoo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6VljA7WSSM

But it's not even a rogue-like, is it!

KM, I loved Rogue Legacy 1, but I'm a little wary after having been really excited for Spelunky 2, then being disappointed with it because it was just "more of the same", even though I had thought that's exactly what I'd wanted.

Haha what a highly delayed exchange/realization

ZZT is not a roguelike in any way, it was an ASCII puzzle-action game designed by a very-young Tim Sweeney (who went on to start Epic, now an Unreal engine/Gears Of War multi-multi-millionaire). I designed a game for it when I was 12 and at least one person played and reviewed it last year haha

https://museumofzzt.com/review/q/tiara.zip

Nice! ZZT graphics really appealed to me as a kid, probably in the same way that Minecraft does to kids today.